You know, guys, you can stop looking for the loophole in Demona's immortality. Macbeth is the loophole. And he is, in fact, pretty dang invested in finishing off Demona and getting this over with. Attempting to circumvent that is just making things harder for ourselves. For that matter, Xanatos knows about the details of that weakness, so he's probably already tried to contact Macbeth.
Personally I partial to writing a copy of Macbeth onto a dueling saber, and giving it to Macbeth to stab Demona with
 
You know, guys, you can stop looking for the loophole in Demona's immortality. Macbeth is the loophole. And he is, in fact, pretty dang invested in finishing off Demona and getting this over with. Attempting to circumvent that is just making things harder for ourselves. For that matter, Xanatos knows about the details of that weakness, so he's probably already tried to contact Macbeth.

Thank you. I've had that running in my head this whole discussion.
 
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Doofenschmirtz looked at the monitor. "1500."

Janna nodded.

"Yep," She popped the p.

The Dr. sips his coffee as they both look at the screen. Sure enough, the number continued to read 1500 preceded by a bunch of gibberish.

"Any idea what it means?"

"Not a clue," Doof took another sip. "But considering that this came from the Toonforce, of all things, I can tell you it must be one heck of an inside joke."

Janna 'ah'd' and nodded. Soon, Goofy walked in. When he saw them looking at the monitor, the toon frowned.

"Say, uh..." He scratched his chin thoughtfully as the other two looked his way. "Why are you looking at the monitor upside down?"

There was a pause. Then Janna looks behind the monitor, and slowly rotates it, everything becoming right side up. Suddenly everything made much more sense.

"...0021 is the answer to the evil half of life, the universe, and everything," They read aloud in unison.

"Jinx!" Doofenschmirtz called out, echoed by Janna a second later. "Now you guys owe me a soda!"

Janna snapped her fingers, but like Goofy, they honored the ancient rules. Now two sodas richer, Doofenschmirtz came to a startling conclusion.

"Wait, if 42 is the answer to life, the Universe, and everything, and 21 is the answer to its evil half, then mathematically speaking, good would have to be 21 as well, assuming the two are equal." The Dr. gasped. "Does this mean that Good and Evil are effectively the same thing?"

There was a moment of silence.

"Naaaahh!" Heinz waved his hand and erased the info before walking off to a jaunty tune.

Another moment passed.

"You know, if it's here, they might as well be, right?"

"Totally. Evil bratwurst, old man?"

"Don't mind if I do, young ma'am!"

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EDIT: AH CURSES I WAS TOO EARLY! That's what i get for not checking how many posts are per page.

A/N: I'm not sure either. But I wanted to celebrate the 1,500th page of Doofquest with Dr. Doof, our first Hero, and our current darling.
 
been offline for a while, finally caught up. What the shit,Demona. Send in the angry old Scot, Xanay.
 
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There are some things therapy can't fix, I speak from personal experience.
The human mind is an infinitely adaptable, and yet inexpertly self-contradictory design. There is no problem that therapy can fix which is not desired by the host, because change comes from within, not without. However, with unceasing effort, from both within and without, peace can be achieved.
 
The human mind is an infinitely adaptable, and yet inexpertly self-contradictory design. There is no problem that therapy can fix which is not desired by the host, because change comes from within, not without. However, with unceasing effort, from both within and without, peace can be achieved.
Demona's is a gargoyle mind, though. Does that still count? Do we need an expert in gargoyle psychology to help her?
 
The human mind is an infinitely adaptable, and yet inexpertly self-contradictory design. There is no problem that therapy can fix which is not desired by the host, because change comes from within, not without. However, with unceasing effort, from both within and without, peace can be achieved.
They need to desire it, that's the crux of the issue. You can't force someone to change and she doesn't, she couldn't even convince herself, literally.
 
They need to desire it, that's the crux of the issue. You can't force someone to change and she doesn't, she couldn't even convince herself, literally.
Don't take a stable time loop as closure of a possibility path. There exists a mathmatical potential for the right circumstances to occur to cause demona to wish for change. They are perhaps unlikely in the extreme, but not zero. At the same time, betting on a million to one shot should only be done with the weight of the narrative behind you. Don't change plans for it unless it occurs, perhaps do not even seek it out, but don't say never, and if perhaps the stars fall from the heavens to mark the path, don't push her off.
 
Don't worry, Demona does realize the errors of her ways*, in canon** even!

*she realizes that she is the cause of her pain
**in Ask Greg, and it doesn't seem to have happened by 2198
 
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Just binged the entire first season of Gargoyles. Some things were pretty good. Others... left some things to be desired. Things I'm sure of:
1) Demona's a total bitch (also, her characterization in episode 11 left much to be desired, it was so OOC from what I had previously experienced)
2) Goliath is a frickin' saint
3) Elisa Manza is best girl and no one can convince me otherwise
4) Demona's a total bitch (nooooo, Coldstone!)
5) Hudson is best Gargoyle and no one can convince me otherwise
6) Xanatos... eh. It's probably because I haven't made it all the way through the series, but after all the hype this thread has given him, I find myself... underwhelmed. Severely underwhelmed.
7) The three young Gargoyles do not impress me so far. All three have just proven to me that they are easily duped and they care for simple pleasures too much
8) Have I mentioned Demona's a total bitch? (Replacing your "true love" and "valued comrades" with robots? Really?)
 
I mean, we do employ Temujin "Some places still haven't fully recovered" Khan.
He was less... intemperate... than his descendants. That isn't saying much but, yeah, he isn't quite as big on overkill as Hulagu 'You Didn't Need Baghdad Anyway' Khan. He was still a bloodthirsty bastard who would remove a city and everything in it, down to livestock an pets, as with Samarkand... but it usually took a little more to put him on a rampage.

Faint defense, I know. But, yeah, Doof's only requirement for inclusion into his little club is that he personally get something out of your presence. That might even be the joy of keeping you as a conquered subject, as with Monogram before we acquired common ground there. We are a nice guy, we are evil only in a Guild of Calamitous Intent sense, but we are amoral and mostly making the world a better place because that is the kind of place we want to live and rule. Screams and the pleading of the masses gets old after like half an afternoon.

If you can find the sum of all human monstrosity packed inside a people-shaped meat casing but still have that individual be personable and not kick over Doof's toys more than is entertaining, that person wouldn't be denied.
 
Doofenschmirtz has always wanted nothing more than a second chance at life. i don't think he has it in him to deny anyone else theirs.

For better, or for worse.
 
The human mind is an infinitely adaptable, and yet inexpertly self-contradictory design. There is no problem that therapy can fix which is not desired by the host, because change comes from within, not without.
Demona has been making catastrophically poor, self-destructive life choices for approximately a thousand years, then retroactively pouring concrete all over her neuroses and follies by refusing to admit it.

She is probably about as therapy-proof as it is possible to be, because her single greatest, explicitly pointed out weakness is her inability to admit she's making horrible mistakes.
 
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