It doesn't say that anywhere, and imagine how silly we'd look if it worked that way.
And to nail this coffin in, I asked MIH about this topic.

To quote them word-for-word, "No? Why would it be? You have a separate action for recruiting from the Rolodex".

Doesn't seem silly to me dude.

Edit: Whoopsie, Tobe'd
 
So, next turn seems to me to be a good time to find out what happens when we crit succeed on hiring a specific person. I know I've laid out a few idea, such as better traits and/or stats, but it'll be interesting to see the results.
 
We're looking for Occult use at the moment, not Learning.

Not really? We've Kitsune available this turn and we'd be recruiting Mal this same turn if it's possible so we're not really hurting for them.

Moreover, the Glooms had only 19 of Occult which is just 4 less points than Tobe's, and I really doubt that Dance Magic is going to give Juniper a +30 Occult or something like that.

Besides this I said that because I just can't see us needing high loyalty with the Glooms or Juniper, or them having a lot of secrets, which is something GoGo has.
 
Not really? We've Kitsune available this turn and we'd be recruiting Mal this same turn if it's possible so we're not really hurting for them.

Moreover, the Glooms had only 19 of Occult which is just 4 less points than Tobe's, and I really doubt that Dance Magic is going to give Juniper a +30 Occult or something like that.

Besides this I said that because I just can't see us needing high loyalty with the Glooms or Juniper, or them having a lot of secrets, which is something GoGo has.
Remember, Kitsune needs to either hurt people or be set on Personal actions on a frequent basis, and we don't know what limitations Malifishmirtz has. They are undoubtedly useful, but we shouldn't automatically assume they'll be available for whatever projects we want them for.

The Glooms, while they may have a base Occult score of 19, are also the only people who are comfirmed to have a scrying artifact. MiH has gone on record as saying we should take the Malifishmirtz episode with a grain of salt, as that is just serving as an inspiration for Malifishmirtz in the quest. In addition, they have potentially useful information about other dimensions we could use.

As for Juniper, the thing is she will need to actually use the Dance Magic action before we get any benefit from it. I want to get that out of the way. Besides, she's apparently a decent hero unit eleven without magic, just not an exceptional one.

Finally as for GoGo... frankly I don't think she's worth getting right now. Any new capabilities she unlocks are likely to be Learning-based, and we already have almost too many options there, while she is likely to not have any Occult capabilities. She might be useful if we decide to grab that BH6 hero ball, but for now, I'd rather not get her.

Besides, I view Juniper and the Glooms not having any major secrets to be a good thing. It helps keep the DC down for Investigate Employees if we don't find Kat.
 
Presumably we'll be trying to make a coven sometime relatively soon after we get Malif, at which point we'll have two occult actions a turn (plus quests and personals) and we'll need more occult heroes again. Realistically we can either get the Glooms, get Juniper, or maaaybe wait for Malif and use him to recruit occult units.
 
Interlude: Malf's Castle Moving
Roddy Blair, King of Lairs, wiped the sweat from his brow and basked gently in the feeling of a job well done. The last cart of stone and block had been sent down the river towards the ocean, and more importantly, towards the nearest functioning port. It had been a challenge, adapting to working with 12th century technology, but after the third or fourth time the locals attempted to burn down their own country in response to him bringing in a backhoe, he had decided to make do. He had actually kinda liked it, in a way. Old timey tools were solid, time-tested, reliable.

Which made what had to come next all the more irritating.

Sitting on the empty foundations where Castle Doofhawk once stood was a single tower, along with a handful of outbuildings still stapled to it by rough and crumbling masonry. It looked rather like someone had taken a cottage, built it into the shape of a full castle, and then stretched it over five stories tall. Unfortunately, it needed to be moved via talisman. Roddy did not like moving things by talisman. It was weird, it was unreliable, and no one seemed to how the darn thing actually worked. Unfortunately, his patron insisted the final tower be moved in one piece.

"I insist you move this tower in one piece!" Malifishmertz declared, manifesting himself once again as Roddy trudged inside. "This tower is the lodestone, the center of my magical spell! It cannot be taken apart without spoiling the bonds that keep me here and not, well, wherever you go for burning down Drusselstein.

"...Heaven, I think."

"Fine fine, ya told me before." Roddy responded, pulling the chicken-engraved rock out of an overalls pocket. "But this betta not go wrong."

"It won't, it won't." Malifishmertz said dismissively. "Also. I gotta say, you are taking this whole magic thing pretty well. I mean, aren't you scared? I'm an eviiiil ghoooooost!!!"

"I don't believe in ghosts." Roddy said gruffly.

"I..."

Malifishmertz shut up and let Roddy use the talisman.

With a grinding creak, the last remnant of Malifishmertz's castle rose into the sky. It cast a shadow over the town of Gimmelshtump, causing the peasants below to begin the traditional firing of the ballistae. One bolt managed to dislodge a large stone, sending it crashing through the roof of Mr. Doofenshmirtz's hovel.

"Dummkopf!" The man yelled, sticking his head out the hole and shaking his fist.

"Yeah same to you pal!" Malifishmirtz bellowed. "I hope you finish fixing your roof riiiight before the town burns down again!"

The ghostly warlock took a moment to stretch his nonexistent limbs, his eyes following the great shaft of the country back to the ocean. "Oh, I can't believe I am finally getting out of this place!" He began as the music swelled. "Why, I could almost just burst into s-"

"No." Roddy shut him down immediately.

"Awww."'

---

Roddy looked out over the endless expanse of the ocean, talisman still glowing in his clenched fist. Midday sunlight glinted over the waves rushing by below. "Yannow, I gotta admit. This is a pretty sweet way to travel."

"I know right?!?!" Malifishmirtz replied in his high-pitched, whining voice. He leaned out through the tower window, salty breeze blowing on his nonexistent skin. "Why did I never think of a flying castle? I can't think of a single downside!"

A bullet passed directly through Malifishmertz's ghostly head.

"Uh oh."

The sound of dive bombing planes filled the air outside the tower.

"Uh, I've been a bit of a homebody the last eight centuries, so I don't really know what… those are. But I don't think it's good?"

As a squadron of biplanes stabilized into formation, a set of four harpoons passed through the window and embedded themselves into the stone floor.

"I should probably move." Malifishmertz said, taking a step backwards.

As one, four figures leapt from their planes, sliding down hempen rope to swing in through the window, almost hitting each other in the process. They were a wolf, two dogs, and a fox, each dressed in rag-tag regalia. As one they took up positions around the window, as if waiting for something.

As the sound of whirling propellers rose to a deafening pitch, an entire biplane forced its way through the window. Its wings sheared off immediately, splinters flying everywhere and a metal bar catching one of the pirates in the leg, sending him howling.

Just before it impacted the far wall, a figure leaped out of the anachronistic contraption, landing gracefully on the ground even as his vehicle exploded violently against the wall of Malifishmirtz's workshop.
"Are you crazy?!?" Roddy yelled. "That's a waste a' good wood!"

"Not to be worrying. It was not mine."

The newest arrival stood up, bruising a few specks of dust off of a high-collared blue jacket accentuated by splashes of red. He had a pair of rolled, baggy pantaloons covering his legs, and a wicked-looking sabre held in one orange paw. He was a wolf, a fox, or something like one, and on top of everything he wore an enormously satisfied smile.

"Dos vidalias, flying castle-type persons. Today, jou have ze honor of being relievehd of jour valuables by ZE DREAD PIRATE, DON KARNAGE!"

"Ohh." Roddy sighed. "Gonna be one a' those days is it."

"Excuse me, greasy simian." Karnage said, walking lackadaisically towards Roddy. "Vere is ze treahsure?"

"The what?"

"Ohhh, not to be Johwshing with me, freiyend. I am retourning home from business trip to Macadamia, and I am seeing leetle castle flying through air! And I am thinking to myself: 'Self. I am betting there is lots and lots of treahsure in zere!' So hand eet over!"

"Yeah, hand it over so we don' have to rob ya!" One of the other air pirates said.

"Idiot!" Karnage announced, whacking the man over the head. "Ve are pirates, not robbers. We do not rob, we pire!"

"Yeah, uh, that's gonna be a no." Malisishmertz said, manifesting his staff of power besides him.

"Oho!" Don Karnage declared, "A Spooky-Type Person! I knew there was being treashure here!"

Raising his arms, Malifishmertz summoned a raging wind that knocked the lesser pirates to the ground. Roddy and Karnage both held on against the torrent, and the latter moved towards the former. "Oooh, what are jou having there?" He said, looking at the talisman in Roddy's hand. "Some sort of spelling doohickey, yesno?" Faster than Roddy could react, the pirate yanked the stone out of his hands.

There was a pause, as gravity walked through the front door and then tried to remember what it had come in for.

And then the castle fell.

Everyone, ghost and pirate included, began screaming wildly as the entire edifice went tumbling towards the ocean. Several pirates hugged each other in terror. Partway down, Malifishmertz realized he was already dead and stopped screaming. Then he realized if his castle was destroyed he would discorporate, and started screaming again.

Roddy managed to kick himself off from the ground, grabbing the talisman back out of the pirate's fingers and bringing the building to a rapid stop. Everyone hit the floor with a resounding 'OOF!'

"So." Don Karnage said, picking himself up and dusting himself off. "If I am taking zat little whatsit from jou, we are all falling to Closet of Jonesy Dave?"

"Yep."

"CURSES AND MORE CURSES! Aargh, fine. I will find some other treahsure. Have at you, ghosty!"

With a word of command, two miniaturized goozims leaped from the walls. One tried fruitlessly to maim the ghost himself, but the other launched itself in the vague direction of the air pirates, leading to yet more screaming.

With a wave of his staff, Malifishmertz then spewed forth a bolt of lightning, which he used to scorch each air pirate in turn. Lightning bounced around the room, causing Roddy to lose concentration for a moment and the entire building to shudder. The lesser pirates ran howling with singed bottoms, but when he got to Karnage, the foxy pirate surprised Malifishmertz by pulling up his sword. In a perfect parry, Don Karnage reflected the lightning back at the apparition and sent him into a sputtering fit.

"Jou think thees is the first time I have been curse-ed?!?" The pirate declared, taking the chance to rifle through the items that had fallen out of Malifishmertz's closets in the commotion. "Oho!" he said, reaching down towards an odd, eight-sided shape. "What eez zis sworly swirlies?"

"No, don't touch that!" Malifishmertz yelled. "If you touch it, it might burst into cursed flame!"

"Ha!" Karnage laughed. "Jou thinking I am dumb as boulders?! I…" Then the pirate paused, bent down, and sniffed the wooden thing. "Oh no, jou are being right."

"Wow." Roddy said. "I guess you really do know your curses."

"Well jes, but actually no. Eet burn-ed my wheeskers."

"Oh." Malifishmirtz said.

"WHAT EEZ ALL THEES TAHRRIBLE TREASHURE?!?" Don Karnage demanded, suddenly furious. "Where are jou keeping ze good stuff?"

"Look I'm sorry man, this is all I got." Malifishmirtz whined. "My descendant Doofenshmirtz came by like a year ago and cleared me out adventuring loot."

"WHAT SORT OF A PLACE EEZ THIS?!?!" Don Karnage bellowed. "A castle een ze sky with no treashure?!? I should sue for ze false avdvartizzing! I have not been this steamed since ze Thembrian Spas!"

Malifishmertz shrugged.

"Ugh, fine! We are leafing men! Jou will tell no wun of zis fooltommery."

"Sure, whatever Carnage." Roddy shrugged.

"Eet is Karnage! Don Karrrrrrnage! Roll ze R!"

Karnage spun on his heel and picked up one of his lieutenants, a scrawny Dachshund. "Mad Dog! Get me anozzer plane."

"Uh, yes sir." the hound replied, still nursing his scorch marks.

As his men began climbing the ropes back to their aircraft, Don Karnage turned, bringing his face within a few inches of Malifishmertz's.

"And wun more thing. When jou meet zis 'Doofenshmirtz' agaihn-! Tell him: He owes me wun treashure."

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Malifishmirtz has been unlocked as a hero unit!
Castle Doofhawk has been moved to Doofania! Where would you like to put it?

[ ] In that Weird Little Hole in the Side of your Building
You always wondered why that was there. Now you can have a reason and pretend it was on purpose the whole time! Sure it's similar to what Xanatos did, but who cares?

[ ] Atop Mount Doofsuvious
With the last of the baking soda scrubbed from Stanley's vile marr upon Doofania, his artificial mountain may actually be of use to you. Who's going to question an evil castle on a volcano lair? That is some serious villain cred right there. Also you can change the name to Mount Doofhawk. You're willing to admit 'Doofsuvius' was kinda a slap-dash job.

[ ] Try to Find a Way to Keep it Flying Full Time
The sight of a castle flying in is honestly pretty cool. Maybe you can find a way to keep that going!

(This option may lead to a slightly more mobile Malifishmertz, but it will also require you to take another action before you can stabilize the haunting. Until you take it, you won't be able to use Malifishmertz.)

Strange octagonal object obtained! Malifishmirtz has warned you that anybody touching this thing will cause it to combust.

There will be a six hour moratorium on voting.
 
[ ] Atop Mount Doofsuvious
With the last of the baking soda scrubbed from Stanley's vile marr upon Doofania, his artificial mountain may actually be of use to you. Who's going to question an evil castle on a volcano lair? That is some serious villain cred right there. Also you can change the name to Mount Doofhawk. You're willing to admit 'Doofsuvius' was kinda a slap-dash job.
This one is absolutely fantastic! We gotta get that.
 
...ok, I'll admit, that was worth Karnage getting a bare success! Sure, he may now be holding a grudge because he didn't get any treasure, but this update was hilarious!

As for the options...a mobile Malifishmirtz sounds useful, but we've already got a lot on our plates. I'd also prefer not to copy Xanatos more than necessary. So, having an evil lair on a volcano it is!
 
SeekerQuest
So I really love and enjoy this quest. And I am in love with this kind of quest in general. As a result I may have brainstormed a few different ideas for such quests, but realistically I'll probably never get around to them for various reasons. Even still, I did make an 'opening post' for one of them, and since it's DVV related, I thought I'd share this as an Omake. Noncanon for reasons that should rapidly become obvious.

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Noncanon: SeekerQuest Opening
Inspired by DoofQuest


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A small girl in a faded red shirt huffs as she runs down a dark alleyway in New York. She looks over her shoulder, brushing her long, messy black hair from her eyes. No one was there, but she wasn't fooled by the apparent safety. She continued to run as she looked for a way out…

Only to run headfirst into a thug. The girl falls into the alley mud, obscuring some of the Hawaiian print on her clothes. The thug chuckles as his buddies go to surround her.

"What do we have here? I thought only old men wore tacky Hawaiian shirts, and yet here's a runt showing up in our part of town wearing the tacky thing."

He reaches down to pick her up by the shirt, and she begins to squirm and snarl.

"Lemme go!"

The big men laugh at her troubles as another grabs her bag. He dumps it out onto the ground as the girl screams for him to stop. He frowns when no money falls out- just some schoolbooks and a green, homemade doll. Not one to be deterred, he picks up the ratty patchwork straw doll and shakes it.

"NO! DON'T-"

The thug holding her covers her mouth the moment she really began cutting loose with her lungs. "Now now, can't have you attracting the wrong kind of attenti- YEOW!"

He drops the girl, now sporting bite marks on his hand. She somehow manages to grab the doll on her way down and goes to run, only for the third guy to give her a swift kick to the sternum. The guy who had been holding her turns to the guy who had her doll.

"Does this look infected to you?"

His buddy thumps him upside the head for his stupidity and turns to the girl as she struggles to get up. He chuckles darkly as he grabs her by the hair.

"Well now, aren't you a feisty one," he grins an unsettlingly crooked grin. "What should we do with something like you? We can't have just anyone trespass in our territory. People might get the wrong idea."

Tears come to the girls eyes as she cries out. "HELP! SOMEONE HELP!"

She stops with a yank of her hair. Then the guy raises his hand, a snarl now on his face.

45 + 17 + 10(Element of surprise) = 72
40 + 12 + 14 + 5(Familiar territory) = 71
Bare success

That's when your sleeve grabs his arm. Startled, the group turns their attention to you. The man swiftly breaks from your grip, but in his distraction his grip on the girl's hair loosens. It'd have to do.

"I think that's quite enough," you droll in a dull monotone. "Then again, I suppose the darkness festering in your hearts thrive on this sort of thing."

"Who the fuck are you, you Halloween freak!?" One of the thugs steps up to you, using his looming height to tower over your hunched, robed form.

"That is of no concern to you," You dismiss them simply, turning your hood towards the girl.

Even now, her eyes burn brightly with a curious mixture of Light and Darkness. A sense of purpose strong enough that you wouldn't be surprised that she could become a Nobody, should the worst happen.

You feel your body get shoved backwards, then briefly turn your attention back to the thugs. They were screaming about you interfering with their business. You no longer cared about that sort of thing, and dismiss the ravings as irrelevant. You turn your hood to the girl again, and then shift your sleeve in a subtle motion.

'Get ready,' you subtly tell her without words. She nods in affirmation.

The one holding her hair notices the movement and turns towards her. "What are you up to you little shit?"

However he is unable to do or say anything more before you engulf his limb in Dark Fire. A trivial effort, but effective enough. Since it was his arm that was set on fire, he screams and tried to back away from it.

The girl is able to slip away, with the grip now loosened.

"What the hell!?" The other two whirl on you, but it's far too late for them.

"Close your eyes and ears, young one."

The girl hunches over, eyes squirmed shut and hands pressed against her head as you take care of business. When you lay your sleeve on her shoulder, there is no trace of the men left - aside from some scorch marks and the lingering stench of Darkness.

"I trust you are unharmed?" You ask, sounding a lot less invested in her well being than you are. When she nods, you return it. "Good. Let's retrieve your things, shall we?"

You turn, but she doesn't follow. No matter. You pick up her books anyway, the mud refusing to stick to your body no matter how much your sleeves drag across the ground. Once you've gathered them all, she finally speaks up.

"Who are you?"

Memories of the past come to you at once. Of being human. Of becoming a Heartless for decades. Of being recompleted and destroyed several times over. Of finally finding freedom from your fate and being abandoned just in time for everything you know to be rewritten, and the resentment towards your former self for it.

"That… is a good question. You may call me…"

[] "Ansem"
[] "Xehanort"

"...Seeker of Darkness."

Another pause.

"...you sound funny."

The way she says it so frankly elicited a dull laugh from you, the closest thing to emotion that you've displayed this entire time. "A precocious child. Let's just say I've become a bit… stunted, in regards to how I express myself."

"Well, I'm stunted too, and I don't talk funny. Then again, those people were stupid anyway, so what do they know."

Her face turns sour, like she had bitten into a lemon. You sense disdain, resentment, and… a deep, deep sorrow. You decide to explore this.

"I presume the ones you refer to are the ones you're running away from?" Her eyes widen in surprise, and only get wider when you open up one of the books to reveal it was hollowed out to hold some personal items. "My familiarity with books made the deception rather… obvious."

She snatched it from your hands and glared, but you had already noticed what you needed to see.

"You saw the flames on the man's arm."

It was not a question. The girl nodded slowly as she put her 'books' into her bag.

"I can do a lot more than that," You say, freezing the water in the area with a flex of your power. "And given time and resources, there is very, very little that is outside of my grasp."

Her eyes war between suspicion and awe. Eventually she put on a front of anger.

"What do you want?"

There it is.

"There is a potential in you I've only seen once before," you explain. "In a promising young lad. I sense it in you too. The desire to do everything in your power for a goal. The willingness to plunge into the deepest depths of darkness, just to see your wants fulfilled. And deeper still… a light, that refuses to go out. That is what interests me."

"So… you're going to dissect me?" Her frown was of confusion.

"Nothing so barbaric or painful. Just some basic observation for now. Despite my predilections towards the arcane, I liken myself to a scientist of sorts. Even if I have resorted to being a peddler of goods to try and make ends meet, my goal is still knowledge of the Heart." You hold out a sleeve. "Young girl, for the opportunity to study and understand you, I shall grant any one wish that your heart desires. I cannot promise how quickly it shall be granted, but if it is possible within the bounds of magic, then yours it shall be. What say you?"

The girl's expression is hard and stoney, looking between your brown cloak and your outstretched sleeve. She clutches her bag and doll tightly, then looks away. When she looks back, there is an expression of vulnerability on her face, along with a futile effort to obscure it behind intimidation.

"Do you promise?"

"I give you my word," You answer sincerely. "Miss...?"

"...Lilo. Lilo Pelekai." She affirms with resolve as she grabs your sleeve in a handshake. "And I wish for you to find and bring back my Ohana - my family."

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AN: The idea of Lilo having been relocated to New York due to the fallout of the Stitch incident just wouldn't leave my mind, and the idea of the Billy Zane voiced and characterized Ansem teaming up with her as his first Hero Unit just felt... right in a sense that I cannot explain. And trying to do an opening where they meet justice was hard. Thankfully, the KISS method came through for me, and I'm satisfied with this hypothetical.

Lilo's starting stats would be abysmal, due to being a child, but she'd also probably have the most opportunities for situational bonuses and likely come in as a surprise starting stewardship hero. Plus the ultimate results of her questline could result in gathering together any number of heroes from Lilo and Stitch, especially Stitch himself as a Martial powerhouse.

Plus, her goal would require space travel and the chops to outmaneuver Galfed. This would provide plenty of incentive to try and build up quickly and in specific ways initially before other events unraveled to form different and greater goals. Aside from, of course, the mystery behind why the hell there's an Ansem/Xehanort in DVV and the implications/results thereof on the setting.
 
"WHAT EEZ ALL THEES TAHRRIBLE TREASHURE?!?" Don Karnage demanded, suddenly furious. "Where are jou keeping ze good stuff?"

"Look I'm sorry man, this is all I got." Malifishmirtz whined. "My descendant Doofenshmirtz came by like a year ago and cleared me out adventuring loot."

"WHAT SORT OF A PLACE EEZ THIS?!?!" Don Karnage bellowed. "A castle een ze sky with no treashure?!? I should sue for ze false avdvartizzing! I have not been this steamed since ze Thembrian Spas!"

Malifishmertz shrugged.

"Ugh, fine! We are leafing men! Jou will tell no wun of zis fooltommery."

"Sure, whatever Carnage." Roddy shrugged.

"Eet is Karnage! Don Karrrrrrnage! Roll ze R!"

Karnage spun on his heel and picked up one of his lieutenants, a scrawny Dachshund. "Mad Dog! Get me anozzer plane."

"Uh, yes sir." the hound replied, still nursing his scorch marks.

As his men began climbing the ropes back to their aircraft, Don Karnage turned, bringing his face within a few inches of Malifishmertz's.

"And wun more thing. When jou meet zis 'Doofenshmirtz' agaihn-! Tell him: He owes me wun treashure."
I told you he couldn't resist attacking a flying castle. That's Sky Pirate 101 right there. And also, I was very much right on the money in that his bare success only gets him onboard the castle. He didn't get to steal a thing~

On the downside, Karnage will be paying us a visit soon enough.

He's a treat though. Can we keep him? :p
 
That was delightful and completely caught the spirit of the original. I could sincerely hear his VA in his lines. tyvm for a great rendition of the Dread Pirate Don Karnage!
 
I told you he couldn't resist attacking a flying castle. That's Sky Pirate 101 right there. And also, I was very much right on the money in that his bare success only gets him onboard the castle. He didn't get to steal a thing~

On the downside, Karnage will be paying us a visit soon enough.

He's a treat though. Can we keep him? :p
I say we prepare a real good treasure and get a chance to talk to him. Who doesn't want a working relationship with sky pirates?
 
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