It´s about *formalizing* dealing with your equals and making sure that the world doesn´t blow up in the process.

Plus, we need an united front against the likes of Toffee if nothing else.

Look, you can "vote" against the Council once we get to it, but my decision is made and I will do my best to make that "Jolly Cooperation" work to the benefit of all.
It's not about voting. It's not even about me. It's about the other Kings not wanting to *formalize* the deal because they're perfectly fine with being "just" Megacorps and letting the U.S. government fix the world.

But hey, if you want to try for it, try for it. Just don't be surprised when Xanatos acts on Xanatos' own interests instead of conforming to some vague idea of an "alliance" beyond that of convenience, a thing that corporations don't do.
 
It's not about voting. It's not even about me. It's about the other Kings not wanting to *formalize* the deal because they're perfectly fine with being "just" Megacorps and letting the U.S. government fix the world.

But hey, if you want to try for it, try for it. Just don't be surprised when Xanatos acts on Xanatos' own interests instead of conforming to some vague idea of an "alliance" beyond that of convenience, a thing that corporations don't do.

The US government is on its last legs and losing the shadow war to maintain even a facade of normalcy. With every little bit that the Masquerade frays (and it will continue to do so even without us deliberately driving the nails in further), the world as Mundanes know it will break apart more and more partly because all those paradoxes grinding against each other.

That all means, that even if the likes of Shego don´t *want* to be actual lords of their domains, they still *need* to act like it to even survive as a business/polity.

So, atm Doof acting like a sovereign ruler might look like an idiot, but actually he is *unwittingly ahead of the curve* and the sooner the more reasonable Kings recognize that, the easier the coming years will be for everyone involved.
 
So I was thinking, and I had a potentially irritating idea. How much do you want to bet that the Investigate Hawk's Death action will only last one turn or two, or might have an increasing DC the longer it goes undone?

I mean, the legal process is already active, and ex-Commisioner Bobcat has been arrested. Combined with the potential for the trail to go cold or for someone to mess up the crime scene once the trial is over, it seems reasonable to think that the action is time-limited.
The main issue with that is that Russ is our best shot at investigating Hawk's Death and we happen to have the Phantom Blot coming Jan/Feb. I'd be fine with sending the Commodore (Russ would roll 58 vs the Commodore's 55).

The US government is on its last legs and losing the shadow war to maintain even a facade of normalcy. With every little bit that the Masquerade frays (and it will continue to do so even without us deliberately driving the nails in further), the world as Mundanes know it will break apart more and more partly because all those paradoxes grinding against each other.

That all means, that even if the likes of Shego don´t *want* to be actual lords of their domains, they still *need* to act like it to even survive as a business/polity.

So, atm Doof acting like a sovereign ruler might look like an idiot, but actually he is *unwittingly ahead of the curve* and the sooner the more reasonable Kings recognize that, the easier the coming years will be for everyone involved.
The US Government is absolutely not on it's last legs, at all. The Masquerade falling will certainly hurt the government, but that is a far cry from crippling it.

It is very unlikely that the US Government is going to fall any time soon. If it gets to the point that they've fallen, then the rest of the Kings are probably soon to follow.
 
The US government is on its last legs and losing the shadow war to maintain even a facade of normalcy. With every little bit that the Masquerade frays (and it will continue to do so even without us deliberately driving the nails in further), the world as Mundanes know it will break apart more and more partly because all those paradoxes grinding against each other.

That all means, that even if the likes of Shego don´t *want* to be actual lords of their domains, they still *need* to act like it to even survive as a business/polity.

So, atm Doof acting like a sovereign ruler might look like an idiot, but actually he is *unwittingly ahead of the curve* and the sooner the more reasonable Kings recognize that, the easier the coming years will be for everyone involved.
Look, I totally disagree with your prediction of what "will" happen, but let's suppose for the sake of argument that I agreed. It's not me you need to convince, it's them. Xanatos is all-in on propping up the U.S. government, Shego is selling them weapons, and if by next turn they're not collaborating with Khan on power I'll eat my avatar's top hat. The "semi-sane" want to keep things as they are, because massive societal upheaval is bad for business, and ultimately what they care about is their own bottom line.

I'm sure if Toffee ever does invade, Shego will sell weapons to the government at a discount (she's not running a charity), but unless and until he personally attacks her, I don't see Shego moving to fight him. It's like the whole cartel debacle: we were worried about it crossing over to our borders and wondering why Shego wasn't doing anything, and it turns she wasn't doing anything because she's running a company, not a territory. She thinks borders are stupid and the whole "half of Colorado" thing is sheer idiocy.

Edit: and that's Shego. Of the Kings in DVV, she's likely the one most tolerant about traditional super villainy. Bring that up with Shere Khan, and watch him laugh you out of the room.
 
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Look, I totally disagree with your prediction of what "will" happen, but let's suppose for the sake of argument that I agreed. It's not me you need to convince, it's them. Xanatos is all-in on propping up the U.S. government, Shego is selling them weapons, and if by next turn they're not collaborating with Khan on power I'll eat my avatar's top hat. The "semi-sane" want to keep things as they are, because massive societal upheaval is bad for business, and ultimately what they care about is their own bottom line.
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Shere Khan
[ ] Develop fusion power
DC 150
85+23+38+10+4+30 (Wasabi Breakthrough)+30 (Government Funding)=220
Great Success
It's a real shame that you didn't say something like you'd eat your hat if they didn't start collaborating with the Government next turn.


Edit: After rereading that, did you mean Shego and Xanatos when you say they're? Shego collaborated with Khan on fusion just this turn.
 
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The main issue with that is that Russ is our best shot at investigating Hawk's Death and we happen to have the Phantom Blot coming Jan/Feb. I'd be fine with sending the Commodore (Russ would roll 58 vs the Commodore's 55).

I'd prefer it if we put the Commodore to Spy on our Employees (maybe with the Dream Talisman to put it to use?). We've been sabotaged by Kat 2 turns in a row already I don't want to let Kat do whatever he's doing uninterrupted in our base.
 
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It's a real shame that you didn't say something like you'd eat your hat if they didn't start collaborating with the Government next turn.


Edit: After rereading that, did you mean Shego and Xanatos when you say they're? Shego collaborated with Khan on fusion just this turn.
No, you're correct, I meant the US goverment. Well, technically I said "by next turn" -not "during next turn"- which includes all turns before next, but nobody likes a sore loser, so I guess I'll have to hunt down an avatar of Bill Cipher without his top hat. *dramatic sigh*
 
No, you're correct, I meant the US goverment. Well, technically I said "by next turn", not "during next turn", which includes all turns before next, but nobody likes a sore loser, so I guess I'll have to hunt down an avatar of Bill Cipher without his top hat. *dramatic sigh*
I mean, I did point out how your terminology would have had it be correct if you meant the Government. And, well...

 
I'd prefer it if we put the Commodore to Spy on our Employees (maybe with the Dream Talisman to put it to use?). We've been sabotaged by Kat 2 turns in a row already I don't want to let Kat do whatever he's doing uninterrupted in our base.


To add on to this if we recruit 4 heroes this turn as we're planning the DC of Spying would become a lot higher, as in ~40-50% CoF with the Commodore higher. Making completing the action impossible since the risk would be too high.
 
Juniper's Encore
Juniper's Encore

Doofania wasn't anywhere near as fun as San Fransokyo, but where else was she going to go? It had been over a year since her last job and the only successful interview she'd had was with Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz.

If there was one thing that her mom had drilled into her it was that quitting at the first sign of failure was never acceptable. No one ever got a dance move right the first time they tried it. It took practice and persistence to achieve victory.

Victory here of course was a record contract, and maybe an opportunity to do some crime as well.

Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated was the only openly evil record company around. TECHNOR has turned her onto them, and had helped her get the first interview, but she clearly hadn't landed the part. Juniper needed a second chance, and for that... That meant reaching out to her connections and seeing if there was an opening.

"Technor's Office, how can I help you!" the secretary at the desk asked as Juniper exited the elevator.

"Hi, is TECHNOR in? I wanted to ask him for some help. Tell him it's Juniper, High Voltage."

The secretary nodded, completely at ease with the dancing dynamo hovering behind Juniper's back, and unworried about the satchel on her shoulder as she called into TECHNOR's office over the intercom and conveyed Juniper's request.

"You're in luck, Technor's last patient just left for the day, he's free to talk now if you want."

Juniper smiled, relived. "Thank you!" She replied as she headed towards the door.

TECHNOR's office was incredibly nice. It even had a working fireplace installed into what seemed like and exterior wall that had been heavily and repeatedly re-plastered.

TECHNOR himself was floating behind his desk, a smile on his face. "Juniper! I haven't seen you since karaoke night! How's your job hunt going?"

"I didn't get the job," Juniper admitted, embarrassed. "I brought you some batteries. Tigercells, just like you like," Juniper explained, sliding over the satchel full of Khan Industries' signature batteries, each one the equivalent of a light snack for the senior supervillain.

"A bribe?" TECHNOR smiled happily. "Well, you do remember your manners, don't you?" He asked with a smile. "I accept of course! How can I help you?"

"I want a job with DEI," Junniper explained. There was no use burying the lede. That was the nice thing about supervillainy. It was honest, and unless you were dealing with a mastermind type villain, doubletalk was kept to a minimum. "Can you get me one?"

TECHNOR's body tilted slightly as he stroked where his chin would be were his face not a giant screen instead of a face.

"A job?" He asked, as if tasting the question. "An interesting proposition. There has been some talk that Dr. Doofenshmirtz might send me out recruiting, but generally, Mirage is the one who seems to do the hiring and scouting for DEI," TECHNOR paused. "Still, I don't see any reason why I can't send your credentials up to Dr. Doofenshmirtz directly? I wouldn't take his lack of contact as a rejection, by the way. Dr. Doofenshmirtz is a mad scientist, true, but he's more of an absent-minded professor type than the sort that straps laser beams onto sharks and turns people into monsters. It probably just slipped his mind. Especially where it concerns a villainess as talented and promising as you are."

Juniper smiled. "Thank you! I hope I hear back from him soon! but... just in case, can you give me the contact information for this Mirage?"

"Of course," TECHNOR agreed. "Just ask my secretary for it and she'll give you her card."

TECHNOR paused.

"I hope that we can work together soon," TECHNOR declared, and Juniper took that as her cue to depart, leaving the satchel full of TigerCell batteries behind as the door closed behind her.

The secretary handed her Mirage's contact information, just as promised, and it took all of Juniper's self control not to smile and pump her fist until she'd already left the building. Soon. Soon she'd get that record deal! And... if she couldn't do it through the usual channels? Well, her mama had always told her that there wasn't anything shameful about making sure that people knew what you wanted; so if this didn't work? She'd just have to appeal to Dr. Doofenshmirtz directly.

So I was looking through Juniper's interview and she mentions that TECHNOR told her there was a position available at DEI. The rest of this basically just wrote itself.

For those who don't know Juniper here's her Debut Episode of BH6:
 
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TECHNOR himself was floating behind his desk, a smile on his face. "Juniper! I haven't seen you in over a year! Last I heard you were applying to DEI, what happened?"
Technor and Juniper have karaoke night together on an unknown basis. However, it is enough to be considered normal.

She held onto that feeling for the rest of her day, even while she was trying to unwind and have a normal karaoke night with TECHNOR, THE MECHANICAL MAN.
 
For those who don't know Juniper here's her Debut Episode of BH6:

Huh, Juniper's electrokinesis has some real potency, I frankly underestimated it.

I would prefer a more scholarly-type Occult unit like the Glooms or Hans Rotwood, but she'd definitely be a solid martial unit that could be useful for assisting Occult rolls.

If we were to get some statement that we wouldn't lose the chance to hire people like those Occult units due to the Magic Masquerade breaking, then I wouldn't be opposed to getting her in the turn after the next one, but the fact of the matter is... Juniper isn't likely to be hired specifically because the Magic Masquerade broke, where, for other Occult units, that's likely the case.
 
Huh, Juniper's electrokinesis has some real potency, I frankly underestimated it.

I would prefer a more scholarly-type Occult unit like the Glooms or Hans Rotwood, but she'd definitely be a solid martial unit that could be useful for assisting Occult rolls.

If we were to get some statement that we wouldn't lose the chance to hire people like those Occult units due to the Magic Masquerade breaking, then I wouldn't be opposed to getting her in the turn after the next one, but the fact of the matter is... Juniper isn't likely to be hired specifically because the Magic Masquerade broke, where, for other Occult units, that's likely the case.
But none of the other Occult units could both star in and provide special effects for our musical!
 
But none of the other Occult units could both star in and provide special effects for our musical!
It would take two turns for us to get Juniper and for her to become an Occult unit, at minimum. Juniper might not be an Occult unit when she is in the Musical if we prioritize other national Occult actions, like recruiting occult units, summoning demons, studying the Crystal key, and whatever else comes up.
 
It would take two turns for us to get Juniper and for her to become an Occult unit, at minimum. Juniper might not be an Occult unit when she is in the Musical if we prioritize other national Occult actions, like recruiting occult units, summoning demons, studying the Crystal key, and whatever else comes up.
Behold, the list of Occult actions we have that we can reasonably achieve and that we wouldn't put aside because of the possibility of dance magic:




Currently we don't have any actions that we can either A) reasonably achieve without too much of a chance of a critfail and B) important enough that we would prioritize it over dance magic. The Crystal Key will probably be taken Jan/Feb anyways, and if Juniper is recruited Jan/Feb, she will only be available for Dance Magic Mar/Apr.
 
Currently we don't have any actions that we can either A) reasonably achieve without too much of a chance of a critfail and B) important enough that we would prioritize it over dance magic. The Crystal Key will probably be taken Jan/Feb anyways, and if Juniper is recruited Jan/Feb, she will only be available for Dance Magic Mar/Apr.
Oh, you're worried about Juniper critfailing Dance Magic?

That's reasonable, it is the highest DC Occult action and Juniper doesn't have an Occult stat, so it's a real possibility.

However, we should have Malf to assist by then, as well as more Occult units, so a lot of the higher DC Occult actions should be more manageable.
 
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Oh, you're worried about Juniper critfailing Dance Magic?

That's reasonable, it is the highest DC Occult action and Juniper doesn't have an Occult stat, so it's a real possibility.

However, we should have Malf to assist by then, as well as more Occult units, so a lot of the higher DC Occult actions should be more manageable.
How, what. How exactly did you take that out of what I just said?

No. Seriously. How did you get that out of what I said?

I said that the earliest we can recruit Juniper is Jan/Feb, which means the earliest we can have her is Mar/Apr. Recruiting more Occult units has a DC of ninety. We'd critfail 10 or so percent of the time with XP and Kitsune and only succed around 55% of the time. Assuming that Grunkle has Semi-Phenomenal, Nearly Cosmic, he has an Occult score of 38. We can't even be sure that he doesn't have some sort of modernity malus.

Furthermore, we know that the DC of Dance Magic is modified by the hero unit we place on it. We also have been told that it is explicitly designed for Juniper and that other hero units won't really get anything out of it.

I was making the point that the thread would happily put off the Occult actions for a turn to get Dance Magic.
 
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I'd still rather get the glooms before juniper but it wouldn't be a deal breaker.

I'd rather get fredzilla before her as well but I'm assuming russes personal reach out action is a recruitment one.

Still, she's in the top three.
 
Would you download a car? Would you carpool in the car that someone else downloaded?

Behold!

The Download-A-Car-Inator
That video was hilarious, but insulting at the same time! You'll show that anti-piracy ad, you'll show it! Now with the Download-A-Car-Inator you can transport cars of any form directly via online download, allowing you to transport cars and their contents, anywhere IN THE TRI-STATE AREA! It even lets you move the people and things in the cars but that's besides the point! All national and personal actions undertaken by DEI have a +10 due to rapid and easy transport.

The Carpool-Inator
You've been Greevil, but you can be more Greevil! Now with the Carpool-Inator, you can combine any vehicles out and about, forcing them to carpool to their destinations! Now the tri-state area will be the most greevil place IN THE WORLD! It does slow people down quite a bit but that's besides the point! All national and personal actions undertaken by DEI have a -10 due to greatly slowed transport.
 
For whatever it's worth, I'll vote for any plan that includes hiring Juniper. The QMs have been hinting for a while that they'd like us to hire her, to the point of creating an occult action just for her, telling us that putting her on it would lower the DC, and writing an omake where she came into her occult powers. What more do they need to do, drop a literal anvil that says "HIRE JUNIPER!!!"?
 
For whatever it's worth, I'll vote for any plan that includes hiring Juniper. The QMs have been hinting for a while that they'd like us to hire her, to the point of creating an occult action just for her, telling us that putting her on it would lower the DC, and writing an omake where she came into her occult powers. What more do they need to do, drop a literal anvil that says "HIRE JUNIPER!!!"?
Huh. I thought we did that already?

Weird.
 
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