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There has been a conversation in the Discord I would like to make the rest of the thread aware of.

There is a very reasonable chance for the Drug Cartel to be taking action against Shego, or at least major action comparable to the Sands Gala had that Nat1 vs Nat100 not happened. I'll share the main points of my argument:

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As I said, they're probably about to do something big and that is probably going to be taking action against Shego, the Feds, or someone.

The easiest thing to do would be to tell Shego that the High Command was a trojan horse and let her decades of experience figure out that they're going to do something.
I doubt that they would do the High Command just so that they can lower the intensity of their operations. It attributes short sightedness to them in a way that I would prefer not to also it would mean cutting down on money.
Before the High Command they probably could have continued indefinitely. It's only with that did the National Guard actually consider taking action. Shego wasn't going to bother either way.

If they didn't expect Shego to destroy the Command after the National Guard got antsy, then they are idiots.(edited)
We know that they are not idiots, so we can reasonably expect them to expand operations.

It is fairly likely especially because an action that was 63 points above the DC told us that they were probably going to expand

What they probably did not expect, was DEI hiring the world's greatest detectives to discover that it was a ruse. It's fairly likely that Shego wouldn't have bothered with doing to much investigation.
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That is (most) everything I have said related to my current theory. And here is the thing from the Dickens.

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And terrible news! It's terrible because this means the drug ring is way more competent than they looked like and are probably planning to expand
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If anyone has questions, I'd be happy to answer later. I don't have too much time right now.

Edit: Keep in mind, that without the critfail, Kronos wouldn't have been hurt anywhere near as much. There wouldn't be so many warlords simply because Kronos would have a leader, even if said leader had been humiliated.
 
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MrHobbit said:
There has been a conversation in the Discord I would like to make the rest of the thread aware of.

There is a very reasonable chance for the Drug Cartel to be taking action against Shego, or at least major action comparable to the Sands Gala had that Nat1 vs Nat100 not happened. I'll share the main points of my argument:


That is (most) everything I have said related to my current theory. And here is the thing from the Dickens.


If anyone has questions, I'd be happy to answer later. I don't have too much time right now.
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I think it's more likely that they're just going to expand and the reason for them to build HIgh Command was to make every other King lower their guard.

At first, they make every King nearby aware of them, through building High Command while also forcing Shego to blow them up. This basically makes all the other Kings paying attention to them relaxed (probably eating a very big malus against infiltration) and then suddenly they get infiltrated by ???.

And honestly... I'm kind of fine with them doing this since their only viable expansion targets are:

-Doofania: Let them come, no really, they'll fail this action, and that means a critfail.
-NMEIZ: I'm perfectly fine with them going to annoy Toffee. In fact, this would be ideal since they'd crit succeed and make him lose some actions routing them out.
-Florida: They're not really a danger here, cause, you know, mind control and all that. Well, at least they'd get free hats.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Black.Horus on Oct 17, 2020 at 7:37 PM, finished with 257 posts and 60 votes.
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Seems we would be searching for our robot protagonist soon. So what exactly could we possibly find in Wall-E's truck beside his cockroach friend?
 
Retrueno said:
I think it's more likely that they're just going to expand and the reason for them to build HIgh Command was to make every other King lower their guard.
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That is highly unlikely simply because of how expensive the High Command must have been. It would have been more profitable to simply just expand out of Drakktech without drawing an extreme amount of attention to themselves with the High Command.

The main issue is that the other Kings would notice the drugs and then they would have the epiphany that the High Command was a ruse. The people they infiltrated would all then be much more likely to take action against the Cartel. Shego is lazy, the fact that she has waited a year and a half to even poke the Cartel is proof enough of that. They can operate in Drakktech territory with much more freedom than they could in other places.

Basically, what you propose is too much effort for very little gain. Even so, when the other Kings noticed the Cartel, that would put Shego in a weak position. That would get them killed, simply because they may be arrogant enough to think they can pull a fast one over Shego, but they can't fight over even more fronts.
 
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Black.Horus said:
Adhoc vote count started by Black.Horus on Oct 17, 2020 at 7:37 PM, finished with 257 posts and 60 votes.
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Seems we would be searching for our robot protagonist soon. So what exactly could we possibly find in Wall-E's truck beside his cockroach friend?
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At the very least, the truck itself is future technology. Not necessarily out of the order considering the general tech level of this setting, but still something to be noted.
 
MrHobbit said:
That is highly unlikely simply because of how expensive the High Command must have been. It would have been more profitable to simply just expand out of Drakktech without drawing an extreme amount of attention to themselves with the High Command.

The main issue is that the other Kings would notice the drugs and then they would have the epiphany that the High Command was a ruse. The people they infiltrated would all then be much more likely to take action against the Cartel. Shego is lazy, the fact that she has waited a year and a half to even poke the Cartel is proof enough of that. They can operate in Drakktech territory with much more freedom than they could in other places.

Basically, what you propose is too much effort for very little gain. Even so, when the other Kings noticed the Cartel, that would put Shego in a weak position. That would get them killed, simply because they may be arrogant enough to think they can pull a fast one over Shego, but they can't fight over even more fronts.
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What we know from the Dickens investigation is that they're going to expand, personally, I agree that it seems like a bit too much which makes me suspect they've another aim more than just distributing power drugs to expand.

However, I think it's unreasonable to basically discard the results of the Dickens investigation and conclude that no, they're not really aiming to expand, they're actually planning to murder/dethrone/rob Shego.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Black.Horus on Oct 17, 2020 at 7:37 PM, finished with 257 posts and 60 votes.
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Seems we would be searching for our robot protagonist soon. So what exactly could we possibly find in Wall-E's truck beside his cockroach friend?
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Holy sweet Hoover Dam, that is the closet vote I've seen yet. Library just beaten by one vote in favor of WALL-E's home.

Even if we don't find him... at least we might get a new show for our hero units to watch? Whatever WALL-E was using as a reference for love anyways.
 
Retrueno said:
What we know from the Dickens investigation is that they're going to expand, personally, I agree that it seems like a bit too much which makes me suspect they've another aim more than just distributing power drugs to expand.

However, I think it's unreasonable to basically discard the results of the Dickens investigation and conclude that no, they're not really aiming to expand, they're actually planning to murder/dethrone/rob Shego.
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I never said to discard the investigation or that they plan to dethrone Shego. I have actually mentioned the Dickens invesitgation in my argument. I just said that I believe they are going to do something big. They cannot seriously expect to dethrone Shego. There is a very small list of actions that make the High Command worth it and yet put them in a position to survive Shego killing them all. The fact that they can contemplate taking actions like that is concerning. Which is why we should collaborate with Shego on the Cartel.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Black.Horus on Oct 17, 2020 at 8:23 PM, finished with 269 posts and 60 votes.
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Anyone else thinking that the Plant mcguffin might actually be worth something?

I mean, it should at least have some unique/interesting biological traits, given that it was canonically used to freaking recreate all of Earth's plant life by just giving it water and sunlight.
 
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Anyone thinking that the Plant mcguffin might actually be worth something?

I mean, it should at least have some unique/interesting biological traits, given that it was canonically used to freaking recreate all of Earth's plant life by just giving it water and sunlight.
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Not to assert my own assertations as being canon, but if we go by the idea that magic is a matter of ideas (and it is canonically a matter of symbols and meaning, as pointed out by Russ), that plant is, in an alternate timeline, the last scrap of greenery, hope, and a future that planet Earth has.

I cannot think of a more powerful focus for, say, a ritual to restore America's breadbasket, for example.
 
AProcrastinator said:
Not to assert my own assertations as being canon, but if we go by the idea that magic is a matter of ideas (and it is canonically a matter of symbols and meaning, as pointed out by Russ), that plant is, in an alternate timeline, the last scrap of greenery, hope, and a future that planet Earth has.

I cannot think of a more powerful focus for, say, a ritual to restore America's breadbasket, for example.
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Huh. Maybe the Feldrake Quest after this one will be to Ireland, and we'll get something on Irish Druidism to actually make use of that.
 
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AProcrastinator said:
Not to assert my own assertations as being canon, but if we go by the idea that magic is a matter of ideas (and it is canonically a matter of symbols and meaning, as pointed out by Russ), that plant is, in an alternate timeline, the last scrap of greenery, hope, and a future that planet Earth has.

I cannot think of a more powerful focus for, say, a ritual to restore America's breadbasket, for example.
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Like Scrooge's lucky *dime, let's just hope it's still around.
Accidently called it a nickel.
 
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woweed said:
One, dime. Two, amazing example. It was just an ordinary dime, and, indeed, for most purposes, it still is, but its association has made it a powerful magical focus.
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Sorry, dime, been a long time since I watched Ducktales. I'll probably do that when we start interacting with the World's Richest Duck.
 
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