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Calling the vote now!
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We probably won't win everything, anyways.
Agreed.
That said.
I remember the first time I played Maui Mallard. It was at Epcot in Disney world when I was like, six. They had a kiosk where you could play it and I become obsessed, drove my parents nuts cause they were like 'there is an entire park and you just want to play this?". I have too much nostalgia and I can't note go for the cook book, sooooo...
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I mean why are you assuming that all these notable people we noted with our intrigue check won't spend big on round 3? How many of these people have bought anything so far or even seem interested in any of the items in round 1/2? It seems pretty obvious that the big shots at the auction want the really high end items in round 3 and at that point just going by the starting bids isn't going to cut it.
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the good news is that we can probably purchase/parley for anything Xanatos wins. duno what he wants in character, but he seems to like making sure the Masquerade is intact and that the people are taken care of.
I still say an Entertainment/Film Industry is a great idea. "The Little State Department" is really powerful for diplomacy and intrigue after all. If we get that up and running we could offer additional PR boosts for him or his presidential candidate. He has to spend a lot of energy fighting off DOR-15 and getting some positive buzz going out west beyond the BL line might be something he's interested in.
I still say an Entertainment/Film Industry is a great idea. "The Little State Department" is really powerful for diplomacy and intrigue after all. If we get that up and running we could offer additional PR boosts for him or his presidential candidate. He has to spend a lot of energy fighting off DOR-15 and getting some positive buzz going out west beyond the BL line might be something he's interested in.
If we get out-bid on an item, do we get our money back?
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We do, the mechanics, including that one, are listed in the first round of the auction.
Lab_Accident
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I support the idea of investing on our entertainment infrastructure. Free PR is Free PR. Even better, one idea I've been contemplating is: we have been talking about getting ready for when the magic Masquerade drops, but we haven' landed on how.
So why don't we use the entertainment division to sell the public actual magic, under the guise of "magic". We can explain it away as "sufficiently advanced science" until the masquerade drops, and who's gonna question it? If Doofenshmirtz can bring back the dinosaurs, he can make unicorns, right? That just makes sense. "Potions" are just fancy chemistry. Sure, the movie credits atrribute the FX to a "Special Effects Wizard, but that's just an affectation, right?
Really sell that "Disneyland, the most magical place on Earth" slogan, and when the masquerade drops, we just say "Yeah, it's actual magic. It was magic all along. Half of you probably own a dinosaur keyring with an animation charm from one of our theme parks. Magic doesn't need to be dangerous, see? It can be fun."
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and this is where buying out an academic publisher like Scholastic Corporation would be helpful, because it can slowly educate people more and more in a way that doesn't break The Masquerade. The Gov can even get in on it.
Just accelerate general scientific knowledge in a way that Doofania will have an edge in, and it'll make The Masquerade more robust as more and more people speculate "huh, maybe science could do X"
Gov is happy that The Masquerade is shored up, Xanatos happy that stability is increasing, Prestige for us. Book deal for Wendy potentially. Seems good to me.
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Remember, the entire cultural zeitgeist of the world has shifted away from traditional western animation and it's been that way for decades. It's not just a matter of big bad Doom keeping toons down, the general public just doesn't have much of an interest in them. Trying to invest heavily in toon-centric things and hoping the public eats it up won't be that simple- it'll be a tough uphill battle. Imagine someone trying to revive Nickelodeons (the theatre, not the channel) in this modern day and age.
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...I'm sorry, what?
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Nickelodeon (movie theater) - Wikipedia
Small five-cent admission theatres that were very popular in the early 1900s.
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You just fell for his trap card.
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Challenge accepted. And who says Toons will be the only keystone of our cultural revolution?
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Nickelodeon (movie theater) - Wikipedia
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Small five-cent admission theatres that were very popular in the early 1900s.
so if Cartoons and western/eastern animation isn't a thing what is? Is it all just live action stuff? Sci fi? Fantasy?
what is the primary entertainment thing?
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Anime is very big. Western animation never flourished, so anime enjoyed a very comfortable following in the States. It never really got stigmatized either.
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I'd think for entertainment we'd wanna do the SPLIT/SECOND option that has been given to us and also follow-up on the idea of making robot-doppelgänger Elvis. This time without the horrifically sad eating disorder and other mental health issues!
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Interesting. Part of the reazon the Yokai Zaibatsu are such powerhouses?
Anyways, in what other ways does the cultural life of the 'average American' in this setting differ significantly from real life, if any?
I feel like that's a little bit of a false equivalency considering that Nickelodeons were a way to consume entertainment rather than a form of entertainment itself and went out of fashion more than a century ago whereas depending on how the paradox works Toons only went out of style at most 20-30 years ago
Plus if anime is popular then it doesn't mean there's no room for animated entertainment
Though all that said I get that you're point is that we won't be causing a Toon renaissance without some major work
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I've got plans to reveal some more information on paradoxes pretty soon (depending on the choices you make), but remember that Roger Rabbit had to take place just after WWII... so yes, there are some heavy duty paradoxes surrounding that. Toons have been out of style since the early 50s at least.
The analogy is a bit clunky, but I was trying to go for something that's been effectively outmoded, outdated, and most of the public would say "Huh, that's still a thing? Kinda neat, I guess?"
The analogy is a bit clunky, but I was trying to go for something that's been effectively outmoded, outdated, and most of the public would say "Huh, that's still a thing? Kinda neat, I guess?"
No need to let our entertainment focus exclusively on toons (who are, as has been mentioned, a very small slice of the population). I'm sure we could make some interesting super-themed movies that just happen to have Toons in them...
I can see it now. Recruit Orton Mahlson, finish the Dino actions to get big carnivores and herbivores, and do some sort of epic superhero themed movie franchise. Call it the Doofenshmirtz (Evil) Cinematic Universe.
I can see it now. Recruit Orton Mahlson, finish the Dino actions to get big carnivores and herbivores, and do some sort of epic superhero themed movie franchise. Call it the Doofenshmirtz (Evil) Cinematic Universe.
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huh could have sworn you said that was also small time.
Wait if Toons fell out in the 50s how is Max and Goof troop a thing? Or is that another paradox?
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit was filmed in 1988 about the golden age of the mid 40's
we know that the world had a Superhero obsession for -ongoing- and all we gotta do is lean into that trend with Toons in prominent roles throughout.
My vote would be Hego, young up and coming Golden Age Nostalgic, trying to do things the "Good Ol' Way" and fighting L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N. (a classic troupe that combine into a semi-competent threat) with Goofy as the moral center and our PMC acting as effective "protect civilian-ers".
Hego tries to do the thing and stomp the villains, but it's hard and sometimes the villains get one over on him. Our PMC covers the gaps, and Goofy is there to talk about how "gawrsh, you know back then these things were filmed in Toontown. You gotta be more careful. Not everyone is tough like us Toons, so remember to coordinate with [Doofania PMC] to make sure nobody gets hurt. These aren't the good ol' days. But maybe they can be better"
or something. Basically a mixed cast of Toons and Supers trying to find a balance between "The Golden Age Heroics!" and "please be mindful of collateral damage, and DoofPMC is ready and able to help mitigate that!". The constant chaos of that era was a bit rough for people, as I'm sure the collateral damage was. A dumb-fun action nostalgia bender with thoughtful introspections sprinkled throughout with Goofy himself just, being himself. That should work out. Heck! Max is Exhibit A of "I'm a Toon but please let's not get too wacky/chaotic"
2015-2016 most popular TV is like. Mix of dark, edgy, morbid, apocalyptic shows and happy, escapist, heartfelt sitcoms. Minor Super elements all over it. Police procedural's literally everywhere.
this hypothetical show would be aiming for a "Modern Family" or "Mom" vibe but with more action involved. Like a Brooklyn 99, but less cop and more Super.
Hego is his secret identity. His Super Identity and his fake "secret identity" for the show would be the same ones used for him IRL. For his protection.
He "lives with" Dennis the Duck, deputy of our PMC commander TEMUJIN. He's a quirky guy, but he really does want to make sure people are safe and perhaps one day to find his hero. Hego goes around, doing good like the cat-saving and old-lady-helping. Each episode is him being called in by our PMC to assist against L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.'s newest plot or to provide support for [insert cameo] who is in town. He succeeds, or fails, and whenever civilians are endangered our PMC (Normbots and Dennis) show up to protect them. In the debriefing, Hego talks about *whatever* with the Janitor (Goofy) who provides solid advice and moral grounding in a relatively chaotic environment.
Like. It's mostly about the jokes. Goofy helps ground the narrative into serious Toon-Super-Human integration and collaboration issues, while providing an optimistic outlook. A prominent Toon not in the show just for a punching bag is good. Better, he's the grounded "non-chaotic" one while the two main human elements are lovable whacky doofs. Light drama. Any themes of seriousness are handled seriously, but optimistically. Mostly about Golden Age Renaissance Action in the modern era, both the positives and the shortcomings.
we know that the world had a Superhero obsession for -ongoing- and all we gotta do is lean into that trend with Toons in prominent roles throughout.
My vote would be Hego, young up and coming Golden Age Nostalgic, trying to do things the "Good Ol' Way" and fighting L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N. (a classic troupe that combine into a semi-competent threat) with Goofy as the moral center and our PMC acting as effective "protect civilian-ers".
Hego tries to do the thing and stomp the villains, but it's hard and sometimes the villains get one over on him. Our PMC covers the gaps, and Goofy is there to talk about how "gawrsh, you know back then these things were filmed in Toontown. You gotta be more careful. Not everyone is tough like us Toons, so remember to coordinate with [Doofania PMC] to make sure nobody gets hurt. These aren't the good ol' days. But maybe they can be better"
or something. Basically a mixed cast of Toons and Supers trying to find a balance between "The Golden Age Heroics!" and "please be mindful of collateral damage, and DoofPMC is ready and able to help mitigate that!". The constant chaos of that era was a bit rough for people, as I'm sure the collateral damage was. A dumb-fun action nostalgia bender with thoughtful introspections sprinkled throughout with Goofy himself just, being himself. That should work out. Heck! Max is Exhibit A of "I'm a Toon but please let's not get too wacky/chaotic"
2015-2016 most popular TV is like. Mix of dark, edgy, morbid, apocalyptic shows and happy, escapist, heartfelt sitcoms. Minor Super elements all over it. Police procedural's literally everywhere.
this hypothetical show would be aiming for a "Modern Family" or "Mom" vibe but with more action involved. Like a Brooklyn 99, but less cop and more Super.
Hego is his secret identity. His Super Identity and his fake "secret identity" for the show would be the same ones used for him IRL. For his protection.
He "lives with" Dennis the Duck, deputy of our PMC commander TEMUJIN. He's a quirky guy, but he really does want to make sure people are safe and perhaps one day to find his hero. Hego goes around, doing good like the cat-saving and old-lady-helping. Each episode is him being called in by our PMC to assist against L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.'s newest plot or to provide support for [insert cameo] who is in town. He succeeds, or fails, and whenever civilians are endangered our PMC (Normbots and Dennis) show up to protect them. In the debriefing, Hego talks about *whatever* with the Janitor (Goofy) who provides solid advice and moral grounding in a relatively chaotic environment.
Like. It's mostly about the jokes. Goofy helps ground the narrative into serious Toon-Super-Human integration and collaboration issues, while providing an optimistic outlook. A prominent Toon not in the show just for a punching bag is good. Better, he's the grounded "non-chaotic" one while the two main human elements are lovable whacky doofs. Light drama. Any themes of seriousness are handled seriously, but optimistically. Mostly about Golden Age Renaissance Action in the modern era, both the positives and the shortcomings.
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Sure, but Toons aren't all (or even most) of the entertainment portfolio I was hoping we'd build. They'll have their place, for those nostalgic like Russ, as will Disney Animated Classics (since DVV classic is not and was never a thing here, and they're not toons, I figure the Disney Princesses' role as beloved movie characters is safe) and live-actions movies, but also Elvis for the music lovers, SPLIT/SECOND racetracks (possibly with Toon pilots for extra-destructive courses), dinosaur theme parks, a magic castle, museums of ancient, never-discovered archaeological finds, Wendy Wower and Science Is Fun programs, Ren Faires, etc etc.
Edit: Oh, and we'd finally get to produce Doof'N'Puss, and the only executive meddling would be OURS! Take that, movie industry!
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