Humblest creatures on earth.

Errrr... are you sure worshiping sheep that is spilling out blood is not the same as being under demonic influence? Also, is that a bewildered Arabian on the lower left corner?

...why is that a bad thing? I for one thing it's a good idea.

Not very keen on letting the trade/merchant city being self-governing. Redhill looks like it's growing to be industrial/metal working center, which means huge concentration of labor; might not be a good idea to let it self-govern.
 
Redhill looks like it's growing to be industrial/metal working center, which means huge concentration of labor; might not be
But it's also landlocked, making it dependent on us for any significant trade, and near the core, where it can be watched carefully so it doesn't become an exploitation zone
 
Errrr... are you sure worshiping sheep that is spilling out blood is not the same as being under demonic influence? Also, is that a bewildered Arabian on the lower left corner?



Not very keen on letting the trade/merchant city being self-governing. Redhill looks like it's growing to be industrial/metal working center, which means huge concentration of labor; might not be a good idea to let it self-govern.

Yer not familiar with religious iconography?
 
Yer not familiar with religious iconography?

This is the result when you Google Religious Iconography:

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12th:

Religious art is weird yo.

Just worried about abuse and less oversight + a lot of people. Different reasons for worrying about Redshore and Redhill.



Yep, not familiar at all. I thought angles are like flaming wheels and stuff.

You're thinking of the Thrones!
 
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Just worried about abuse and less oversight + a lot of people. Different reasons for worrying about Redshore and Redhill.



Yep, not familiar at all. I thought angles are like flaming wheels and stuff.


Christ is often depicted as the lamb of God in iconography.
The blood and the cup for the sacraments and the symbolism therein.
 
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What about the people who would have been happy if we did go to war with the Highlands? Real people, even?
Yes, things get wonky on the highest pyramid step of Maslow's. Basically, on that level there is nothing we as the state can do; it's something people will have to do individually. But we can bloody well do something about the lower steps.
 
[X] [GA] Gain random genius (-15 Culture)
[X] [FC] Redhills
[X] [FC] Just one FC
[X] [Diplo] Tie everything together internally (Main Build Roads)
[X] [React] Continue work on the Place to the Stars (5/7-8 actions completed)
-[X] [React] Kick project (ISoO already triggered this turn)
 
What?

The point of that canal would be irrigation. Canals and rivers do shit all against nomads. Read the thread tags: Nomads are not fey! They can pass running water easily enough.
Irrigation and reducing logisitics but the real treasure is the mega project that it unlocks which I'm hoping is a Great Wall or a giant castle that turns it into a moat which we can use to tie down the nomads long enough to call up our armies. See below.

On the whole forest thing, do note that once Redhills gets an aqueduct (mostly to guide water for mills) there will be another megaproject that is now opened by having guilds and a major arsenal at the palace. It will also require significant investment of charcoal (and thus enough forests to sustainably harvest from).

Also, integrating the Stallions also means that you now have access to the Triangle Canal megaproject, which when completed will open up a new possibility where you will want sustainable forests available.
 
Hey @Concho117 have you ever read descriptions of the Judaic or Talmudic Angels?

Here is Samael from a wiki quote of his passage:

Article:
There was another angel in the seventh heaven, different in appearance from all the others, and of frightful mien. His height was so great, it would have taken five hundred years to cover a distance equal to it, and from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet he was studded with glaring eyes. "This one," said Metatron, addressing Moses, "is Samael, who takes the soul away from man." "Whither goes he now?" asked Moses, and Metatron replied, "To fetch the soul of Job the pious." Thereupon Moses prayed to God in these words, "O may it be Thy will, my God and the God of my fathers, not to let me fall into the hands of this angel."
 
I am fine with Redhills becoming a Free City. I just don't want Redshore to be one. I ESPECIALLY don't want Redhills AND Redshore to be Free Cities when the mechanic still hasn't even been tested yet (disregarding the fact that I don't want Redshore as FC anyhow)
 
Hey @Concho117 have you ever read descriptions of the Judaic or Talmudic Angels?

Here is Samael from a wiki quote of his passage:

Article:
There was another angel in the seventh heaven, different in appearance from all the others, and of frightful mien. His height was so great, it would have taken five hundred years to cover a distance equal to it, and from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet he was studded with glaring eyes. "This one," said Metatron, addressing Moses, "is Samael, who takes the soul away from man." "Whither goes he now?" asked Moses, and Metatron replied, "To fetch the soul of Job the pious." Thereupon Moses prayed to God in these words, "O may it be Thy will, my God and the God of my fathers, not to let me fall into the hands of this angel."

There's a reason Angels always started a conversation with "Be Not Afraid..."
 
=_= Did they find it too hard to draw a man? I would think drawing the guy as a lamb is downplaying his event.

On the other hand, a lamb is cuter than a human.

One is that he was sometimes described as the lamb of God, so the icon is relating to that term. There is also the symbolism involved and connotations to abraham and the testaments.
It implies purity, sacrifice and connection.

And often in the iconography, especially the older ones, the image depicted holds layers upon layers of meaning and stories.
Each part of the image tells a story and gives an implication, and the way they are ordered and set tells yet another.
Religious iconography (especially the old Catholic and Orthodox one) is both bueatifull and incredibly complex and intricate.
 
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It's actually alot more common for him to be depicted as this:

I must ask, what are these?

One is that he was sometimes described as the lamb of God, so the icon is relating to that term. There is also the symbolism involved and connotations to abraham and the testaments.
It implies purity, sacrifice and connection.

And often in the iconography, especially the older ones, the image depicted holds layers upon layers of meaning and stories.
Each part of the image tells a story and gives an implication, and the way they are ordered and set tells yet another.
Religious iconography (especially the old Catholic and orthodox one) is both bueatifull and incredibly complex and intricate.

I see, this makes your adornment of lamb understandably sound.
 
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