Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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It will be dicey as AN said, especially if they managed a blockade.
They can take our blacksmith and gain access to our ironworking technology. Sell the rest into slavery. Incur DS and LL penalty, which will be at least 2 stability loss minimum.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
You may wish to bring a pot of unsalted popcorn, the salt level is closing to Mod level.
Actually, just duck and cover.
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- Mists of Albion
Even then it only gets dicey, they would still struggle not have an instant win or even a quick or even easy victory
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- his hidden lair
I... I don't even. You realize if they're hiring these mercs to use against each other- and hence there are people we can negotiate with who want those mercs gone.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
I should stop procrastinating and just figure out how to retrieve strings from istream files...
@Karugus We could always hire the Trell mercs to conquer the HK.
And they don't really want them gone they just want them not on their enemy's side and ideally on theirs.
@Academia Nut Do the Trell switch between renting their mercs out to the opposing side?
@Karugus We could always hire the Trell mercs to conquer the HK.
And they don't really want them gone they just want them not on their enemy's side and ideally on theirs.
@Academia Nut Do the Trell switch between renting their mercs out to the opposing side?
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- Mists of Albion
Probably take them is not 'give them a really bad day' mate, so even if I did just quote the first bit in a rush, you're still over exaggerating
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- Austria
He explicitly said that defending would be very hard, and offense straight up impossible.
We were able to commit offensive operations into nomads-held steppes while they had heroic leader, and are the best defensive civ in the region.
If we invest enough resources, we will win, sure. But this will be one of the most costly, if not the most costly, wars in our history if those descriptions by AN are anything to go by.
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- Voidbetweenstars
... SLAVE TRADE DOMANINCE IN A WORLD WERE EVERYONE USES THEM.
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- United States
They don't need a reason to attack us beyond us having stuff that they want.
If we just sit there and let them pillage, eventually all of the easy, low risk options will be emptied out.
They will start being more bold, and attacking riskier settlements (aka us).
What will you do if the Trelli decide to show up with the decked our mercenaries that they gained from turns of constant raiding and they burn Greenshore to the ground?
We have to try to stopper this problem before it gets out of control.
Probably is like "a decent chance".
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
It wasn't a US mandate, it was an OPEC resolution that has been changing recently. But, no, that means nothing in regards to backing the dollar. If oil was backing the dollar in any form in he last few years, the dollar would be in the shitter. Oil is still only $44/ barrel which is half of what it was ~10 years ago.
Sure, all countries manage their inflation rates through easing and currency printing, but most don't literally alter their reported GDP and cook their books to keep their currency stable.
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] [Exp] Do nothing here
[X] [Diplo] Tie everything further together (Main New Trails)
[X] [Int] Build palace (Extra megaproject action)
All the trade posts are a major investment that we can't really support right now. Both boats and roads are good. Palace to free up future actions for census or other.
[X] [Diplo] Tie everything further together (Main New Trails)
[X] [Int] Build palace (Extra megaproject action)
All the trade posts are a major investment that we can't really support right now. Both boats and roads are good. Palace to free up future actions for census or other.
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- Mists of Albion
I don't see it like that, it could not be as bad as the Second Great Nomad War. The Trelli cannot hit our territory, only our Trade Post with anything more than raising, and due to their ship type raiding would be highly inefficient, the main risk here is losing The Ted Banner.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
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- Ranch
I forgot about the ritual significance, as for the need for private for ownership, that is a more philosophical question that can be stretched forever (can one truly own when both object and owners are finite mortals? And other such lines of inquiry), personally I believe it is vital as a prequsite for the rise of the concept of the individual and what it entails. In this context : that the object of ownership cannot be taken without permission or negotiationed recompense, as otherwise it would be not qualify as owned. More so since Ymaryn society is one of an active and powerful central state.
But there are other reasons that I am too sleepy to state with much cohesion. (for all thier majesty, mountains are a bitch to walk)
Nevertheless, you make an excellent point. And organised leasing would explain how a form of contract or deed can be developed.
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- Mists of Albion
Then why are they different words with different meanings?
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Because it's way easier to deal with?
Option 1, our sailors kill their raiders. Especially if we use the eastern trading post to fund another mercenary company and train them for ship combat.
Option 2, they beat a few of our ships, but take enough losses due to our superior tech that it's not profitable. They focus on juicier targets.
Option 3, they dominate our ships. We can just withdraw from the whole sea and trade elsewhere. Saltern income doesn't require the market.
Ten turns isn't all that long if they're not motivated enough to go to war with us. Enough time to finish all our megaprojects, then turn our attention westward as they hit a bump in the road, temporarily can't pay some of their mercs, and get into a huge civil war.
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- his hidden lair
I CAN TALK IN ALL CAPS TOO! AND AM STILL MIRACULOUSLY LESS OBNOXIOUS- IT MUST BE MY DASHING GOOD LOOKS, CHARMING DEMEANOR, AND POSITIVE OUTLOOK ON LIFE
But the point stands, slaves are a commodity right now that can be had anywhere. The Danubian basin is ripe for the taking and I'm pretty sure the TTs have a river leading there. The TTs are entirely capable of securing an alternate source- especially if we provide incentive and support for them to do so.
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- Voidbetweenstars
[X] [Exp] Found Far Northern Trade Post
Dude, it's not just the Red Banner we risk losing. We risked losing our blacksmiths, who will be there to maintain iron weapons. We risk losing that TP which will incur DS and LL penalties. We're looking at 2-3 stability loss.
We aren't set up to lose or win territory based on dicey proposition. We are BRITTLE.
In that case, why not spin off a mercenary force? We are going to have to do it anyways to make room for integrating the stallions; might as well do it now. It doesn't even cost us extra wealth/turn, since for now we can quarter said mercenaries with our normal troops.
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- Austria
He had raging hate-boner for Trelli the moment they were introduced. Literally nothing.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
If land can be an object, not all objects are mortal. (Same goes for airspace, and basically all geographic/cartesian elements but I 1000% doubt that we have that as a legal concept rn. @Academia Nut Do our villages tend to prevent people from building really high, yet feasible apartments? What philosophical justification do they use, if any?)
p sure we recognize ownership as you defined it, tho that's a vague conclusion w/o any effort put into verification >.>
If you're sleepy from it being night, go to sleep. If you're sleepy from waking up, go work out. <3
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