- Location
- Mists of Albion
No. It's explicitly stated in the voting text that the clan reform would affect the kingdom entirely and the districts would have only applied to the city, go back and read the options mate, it'll help make things clearer
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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Everything is bad to someone eyes. That's why I watch only the part I like, and not the part I hate. Otherwise half of sci-fi is unknown to me.
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pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
No, only the guild and district options explicitly said they were just in the city, and AN confirmed that was how it worked after he locked in the result.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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- within 2 hours of the White House
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- They/Them
So would the new adoption rules, see bold here:
this implies they were intending to use the new adoption rules ONLY in the city but realized it was a bad idea. As I said before, I believe (not unfoundedly, i hope) tht the same thing would have happened to either of the 2 dissolve votes
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
Furthermore, acc. to AN, doing both wall and dissolve would make it clear that the boundaries are dissolved in the bounds of the city, rather than society as a whole.That's explicitly not true. The two dissolve options explicitly only affected the city. The others affected everything.
Also, super-kudos to AN for modeling our confusion IC. VERY nice.
He brought up a comment about what happens when people move into and out of the city, which can have two different interpretations
It can mean that people's clan affiliations are completely dissolved upon entering the city, resulting in a disconnection that would force a later adaption of clan adoption laws upon leaving the city; or temporarily dissolved - i.e. you have no bounds in the city but when out of it for long periods you're now back in your original clan - which might result in a ghetto/free-zone that would enhance the criminality of the city, countered by the new hierarchy fighting to maintain order.
If the test-bed the city is made into worked out, then the practice would be expanded. If it didn't it wouldn't, and the alteration might be reverted.
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- Location
- United States
[X] Attempt to capture the errant warriors and then make amends with the Highlanders (-5 Diplomacy, probable war with Highlanders)
I was never really set on anything specifically, just the logic that people used in their arguments for a specific option.
I'm still a bit iffy on it, since the HK will totally lose to the TH if they decide to attack us as well. Having a defensive war means we get all those benefits from our traits however (including stability kickers).
I was never really set on anything specifically, just the logic that people used in their arguments for a specific option.
I'm still a bit iffy on it, since the HK will totally lose to the TH if they decide to attack us as well. Having a defensive war means we get all those benefits from our traits however (including stability kickers).
- Location
- Las Islas Filipinas
[X] Attempt to capture the errant warriors and then make amends with the Highlanders (-5 Diplomacy, probable war with Highlanders)
Either we discover the False Flag Operation Military Strategy, root out a possible userper(or something), and/or end up at war anyway.
Either we discover the False Flag Operation Military Strategy, root out a possible userper(or something), and/or end up at war anyway.
- Location
- Mists of Albion
Again, go back and read the actual voting options, they explicitly say that the districting would have only affected the city whilst the clans would not.
I'm sorry you didn't read it properly, please stop ignoring what has been stated by the QM
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AN said that choosing the city walls would have allowed us to only dissolve the clans within the city. Without the city walls you'd be correct.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
That's the main reason I'm still holding out. I don't want TS to win
keenscythe
No longer NEET
- Location
- WA, USA
[X] Massively reinforce position (-5 Military, founds new March, war with Highlanders)
- Location
- United States
You mean TH, as the TS have basically been turned into semi-slaves (even if they haven't been wiped out yet)
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
we fight a defensive war, with the benefit of knowing we tried to fix things.
Also, to everybody I've been arguing with, I would like to apologize. I was working with bad information and did not do my due diligence. i'll try to make sure it doesnt happen again.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
everyone does it
That sounds about right.
"Hey, we accidentally killed that village of peasants over there. Heres a fair weregild"
*Dumps gold bars*
You know...I suspect the Highlanders might not put quite the same value on the lives of their minor villages as we do...we'd fight to the death as an entire country to protect a province consisting of two towns. The lowlands, not so much.
Uh....I'd be even more alarmed if it worked like that because boy is it a great way to go to the big city to game your clan status...much like was being done with clan adoption here. Enter the city, lose your clan, then go out and get adopted by any clan.
- Location
- Canada
Well, if we had less than 5 diplo I'd imagine we wouldn't have the option (or it'll put us into negative diplomacy) to rein in the warriors. Ultimately I guess things are up to the rolls and also the machinations of the other states: nothing to we can do other than to make our decisions and see how it pans out.
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Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
It's how it worked out anyways, as you said. As a result, I have no idea why you'd be even more alarmed.
Edit: Plus, the temporary version seems a bit more likely to me.
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- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
Well if war does happen what will be our actions next turn?
- Location
- United States
The chance of war is still likely (so about 50ish percent), so I doubt they'll really be appeased here...especially since we just sent a trade mission that told them not to attack us as we're neutral. They might decide to let it slide in order to focus on the TH, but there's still a large chance of war anyways.
TheDanishLord
Viking Warlord
- Location
- Denmark
Now that i think about it as a follower of NOD. There is only one answer:
peace through power
peace through power
A secondary war mission.
They want war - they can come and attack us on our terrain.
Main: RoO
Sec: war mission HK
Sec: Polity change: mega project support
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Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
Main megaproject, secondary war mission, secondary GS