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- Europe
Maybe we can at least keep the body....
Wait hold on! Just bring him back and kill him again!
Infinite Katsumi Deidara biosealresearch!
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Maybe we can at least keep the body....
Wait hold on! Just bring him back and kill him again!
Infinite Katsumi Deidara biosealresearch!
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- Book Fort
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Seconding this, @Sir Stompy. Dog Boss Essie Magic should be a reliable test, imo.
Sure, he might not be able to stay, but we can ask
Ooh. Will we get to see Snowflake help with brainstorming?
Huh, so her forehead seal is something different.
So SC copy smell
lol. Run away, best strat.
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I didn't think Leaf had great odds, but I thought it would be able to handle just one Akatsuki.
A wooden wall is big volume. I want! that storage seal.
No explosive dead-man switch for explosive man? Speaking of explosive man, wonder what Kagome's doing.
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- USA
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- He/Him
Bull cost 358 CP.
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- UK
jsyk you should be able to go supersonic with a pile of macerators, a steel ball, a net, and a frame. I mathed this out some time ago and it'll be an unpleasant ride, but it should work.
Counterpoint: imagine this fight without runes or Skywalkers.
We can mention Akatsuki may have added supplies to the other side of the rift already, in preparation for a defensive battle where the dead come back as reinforcements. A landing platform over the ocean. Combat stuff for Deidara. Making the risk of Deidara's afterlife combat abilities higher than you would at first expect. Could mitigate by estimating how fast Hazou's chakra was being drained, and waiting until we expect Deidara to be drained. Unless there is chakra restoration stuff, which would be difficult there, but with Akatsuki you never know. Or just chakra reallocation, Deidara has all the other dead ninja who can help him. And there might be another dead Akatsuki with him, if they were caught in the RER.
I wonder if we can get Deidara to turn by teaching him rune explosives. Deidara with bigger explosions sounds almost as scary as Oro with runecrafting though.
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- Texas
@Paperclipped How many people does Hazo estimate he killed in this battle, per Jashin rules?
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
(Joke) at least one, certainly
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- Europe
(Joke) at least one, certainly
HAZOU: "Did I really kill anybody? Or did I just teleport them to the Naraka Path? A very theological question. What do you think Satsuko?"
SATSUKO:
HAZOU: "As Jashin would say. Thank you Satsuko"
KURENAI: "Riiiight, not ok"
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- Yes.
[X] Action Plan: Sweeping Up The Rubble
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- Immediately:
- Pop HazōFreezeBabyFreeze before he kills us all.
- Confirm no more runners/hiders in the dome, then take it down.
- (asking the nearest Tsunade) The window of opportunity to chase escaping runners is now; is it worth sending trackers after them? Same thing with anyone at Todoroki; do we check?
- If so, find Noburi for chakra, summon trackers like Canvass, send them out with a squad.
- Cleanup:
- Neutralize/destroy runes:
- Bury any nonexpended runes and wrap in LFE, to detonate after they burn out.
- Expend the remaining RER shots. Use the last to destroy burned-out runes.
- Lower the Superchiller and detonate it once at a safe depth.
- Use Earthshaping to expose anything of value (seals, notes, corpses), and the rift.
- Check for signs of other Akatsuki. Use Hidan's blood to scent if he's around, find Summoning Scrolls, ask Cannai if he smells Itachi/Kisame before he goes...
- If they were here but not dead, argue we should try hunting them down, or bury the fortress to prevent their Reverse Summoning back.
- Neutralize/destroy runes:
- Separate:
- Discuss with Tsunade, Orochimaru, Mari.
- Assuming enemies escaped the assault, they will likely report to Rain and Akatsuki's survivors will go after Leaf. Hazou wants to return to Leaf immediately to fortify it.
- Hazou proposes to go with Uplift and (some of) Konoha's batteries while Tsunade and Orochimaru work on moving the rift. Noburi can give Orochimaru chakra via Seventh Path.
- Ask Tsunade to notify Naruto so Hazou can get in undetected and set up his defensive runes.
This seems like a complete non-issue to me and he's in the best position to bury it.
We were told everyone is dead and confirmed with Ninja Radar
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gran dutch of douchery
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- Colombia
From the oro and Tsunade Nega-quest's perspective Hazou is mostly just a plot device.
You see, he came into existence when the qms were unable to explain why skywalkers were suddenly a thing if jiraya was unable invent them for dacades, then he became a sort of merchant who trades good shit for their old work and some favours once in a while, and recently he is there to move the plot from slice of life/research to combat again, I am 90% sure that he became relevant again after oro try to dissect his sister so the QMs can flex their large battle strategies.
The 'Dog that met them' point is valid, but Canvass is a specialist tracker and Cannai isn't. Cannai is a Clan Boss, so he may well be better than Canvass in her specialty, but probably not that much better.
Note that Ninja Radar doesn't show anyone with less than 100 CP in their system, so someone chakra-depleted might not show up.
Speaking of this - we're running quite high on clone-hours ATM, IIUC. We made nine clones at T -5 and kept them active through T 0 and into the assault, so that's at least 9*6 = 54 clone hours, plus the extra clones we made for the Force Dome/Iron Earth/Superchiller, and then we used a clone to signal at least once in the chapter, so we're running at least 57 clone hours at the moment. That's TN 77, which we're rolling against with Resolve 63 + 3*(5-2) = 72 - so we'll be fine, but as it is we might have to Invoke to avoid taking a Mild, I'm not sure we can afford to make more clones.
(Unless the "9 Hazouclones" includes Hazou Prime? The extra capacity suggests so, since our clones have 390 CP and 390*8=3120 CP. In that case we'd only be on 51 clone hours, but that's still pushing it.)
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped
Any chance we could get these rolls in some form eventually? I realize it's a big ask, but it would really inform our strategies going forward, and Hazou did witness the battle.
Nah I was rounding, so we haven't let the clones exist into the 6th hour yet (unless the battle ran very long). We should have 7 or so hours left and we have plenty of FP for rerolls and invokes.
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Hazō is bait so that the QMs can get to the punching again after years of medicine. You can tell by how Orochimaru came back and Jiraiya is about to be revived.
HUH.
What relevant thought could he have about Hidan in relation to the difficulty of locating someone in the pure lands? Especially one the QMs chose to cut off midway?
I expect this is some thought about Hidan's exploring the rift, which Sasori has previously opened. This makes sense, as Hidan's Jashin-luck isn't chakra dependent, and is by far the Akatsuki's best way conduct a manhunt for Pain. Also, some Akatsuki already being in the rift explains the lighter-than-expected guard on the rift site.
Oro refuses to level any jutsu past 20 unless it's snake themed.
Also, @faflec HazouFreezeBabyFreeze is in an ideal position to discretely dispose of the Superchiller, just pop another clone to send him the "we won" update, and let him start burying it right away.
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- Location
- United States
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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- He/Him
I think we need to reevaluate our aerial doctrine. If the Akatsuki are now effectively limited to Skywalkers then we're still in a pretty good place - we can Air Leaden them and rely on RERs.
If they're not...we need better tech.
If they're in, that means they felt good about their ability to get back out. Maybe it's just regular openings, but I worry that Hidan is just going to jack-in-the-box out of the sucker with Kisame in tow or something. That would be really bad.
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- Yes.
Everyone except Itachi and Konan, who have Crow Summons and Shikigami no Mai to fly through. Air Leadeners aren't a terrible idea even in this case, though.
I get the feeling we should be considering a thread to make Skywalkers v2 so we can deploy them with Icarus Runes.
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They might have found Nagato already and retreated into Rain to heal him. (And maybe Akane, maybe it was Hidan who was hunting her)
Orochimaru might have overestimated the defenses because he knows it can be moved. For Sasori (Biosealing master) and Konan (TH genius with good sealing) it might have looked like an impossibilty, even in theory.
And Deidara was really fucking angry about the Dome, under normal circumstances he would already be on his way to Rain.
With Nagato back they might feel invincible.
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- Yes.
*screaming in faflec*
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- Europe
Well.
At least he isn't the Chicken Summoner anymore. If were lucky he doesn't have the Rinnegan anymore.
Now he is just a super genius TH master, with extreme charisma in charge of a bunch of S-rankers and [Allies].
So he is Nega-Hazou.