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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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[X] Armageddon Initiative

Also we can cast ES to check for scroll-like voids in Hazo's ES-sense and disguise the RER craters. Aside that, think we vaporized the other Akatsuki member in the initial blast or did they break the buddy policy? Might be about to get the imminent return of Hidan. Or Kisame, if he reverse summoned.
 
DanZapman said:
[X] Armageddon Initiative

Also we can cast ES to check for scroll-like voids in Hazo's ES-sense and disguise the RER craters. Aside that, think we vaporized the other Akatsuki member in the initial blast or did they break the buddy policy? Might be about to get the imminent return of Hidan. Or Kisame, if he reverse summoned.
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They're either dead (obliterated by RERs), escaped (hiding in the city of Todoroki), or are in the rift.
 
Buggy said:
Oh fuck we only got one of them.
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Don't be sure. The QMs aren't going to give us too much useful info in Deidara's internal monologue. We know his partner isn't/wasn't Itachi and isn't currently visible. That leaves as serious options:

  • Hidan, who nipped off to Todoroki or similar for Jashinism (known to wander off a bit)
  • Someone who died without leaving traces
  • Kisame, who reverse summoned in time somehow (Samehada's senses giving some warning? but fleeing doesn't match with what little we know of him) or was in the water or something
  • Akatsuki broke their buddy policy and Deidara started out alone
Someone dying and breaking the policy are least concern but breaking the policy seems least likely. Dying without much trace seems reasonably likely- ES will help check for highly-durable remains in the rubble like hopefully a scroll or Samehada but who knows. Kisame is also a fair possibility, dead or alive, especially since Kisame's chakra reserves make him suitable for rift exploration. That leaves Hidan and Kisame as options we'll need to give serious consideration.

CitizenTen said:
How much more do we need to level Noburi's chakra reserves? Getting a S ranked boss is probably the best thing Noburi can do right?
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We don't know, so we don't know. Only definite thing I recall is that the Toad Sages combined are a bit over 1,000 chakra before the VD and cost more than Gamabunta on his lonesome. If we got Noburi's CR to 60 it should definitely work but that's not really plausible after what Tsunade did to his build.
 
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faflec said:
What about the runners here; what happened to them? Possibilities include:

  • They escaped Tsunade's clone; our allies are currently in pursuit.
  • They were captured; Tsunade's clone is bringing them back after the update.
  • They were killed; they were somehow too powerful for Tsunade's clone to take alive but too weak to overpower it.
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Those runners were killed. Other Jashinists came into range, apparently ready to join the battle, and were swiftly killed by Tsunades. However, given that Rain ninja are confirmed present, and Deidara and Hazou made an explosive lightshow a kilometer high inside the dome, Tsunade thinks that it's possible that Rain ninja that happened to be beyond the reach of the Ninja-Radar could well have noticed the battle and fled to warn Akatsuki.
 
eaglejarl said:
Those runners were killed. Other Jashinists came into range, apparently ready to join the battle, and were swiftly killed by Tsunades. However, given that Rain ninja are confirmed present, and Deidara and Hazou made an explosive lightshow a kilometer high inside the dome, Tsunade thinks that it's possible that Rain ninja that happened to be beyond the reach of the Ninja-Radar could well have noticed the battle and fled to warn Akatsuki.
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Right, so Hazou needs to beeline it straight for Leaf, doesn't he.
 
Yooooo, that was killer. Hype paid off^_^

Shame about no confirmed kill on any other Akatsuki, but this was cool and good.

[x] loot the grid

i trust the qms
 
eaglejarl said:
Deidara dodged around another snake missile, this one a lovely red/green speckled pattern and probably just loaded with some awful venom that would melt his organs. He closed his eyes for half a second as he created and detonated a flashbomb, light bursting out to blind his opponent, then hurled a kunai made of explosive clay at the Orochimaru who had launched the missile. The asshole pulled a fucking wooden wall out of a storage seal, ducked behind it, and made it through the explosion.
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Contrast Sasori's attitude:
Velorien said:
Jiraiya smirked as the two spheres detonated on contact, catching Sasori in an immense fireball.

The smirk disappeared as Sasori remained untouched. His scroll effect's suction had drawn in the fire, then instantly transformed itself into repulsion, sending everything back to Jiraiya in a single focused stream of roaring flame. At the last second, Jiraiya unsealed a storage scroll, bringing out a dense, strangely dented metal wall that glowed red-white as it absorbed the heat. Its duty finished, the wall plummeted to the ground, crushing some more cultists as it did (Jiraiya had not chosen his position by accident).

For a moment, all was still as the sealmasters calculated their next gambits.

"Stored wall?" Sasori sneered. "What are you, a chūnin?"
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Yet another Orochimaru W.
 
eaglejarl said:
Hazō Prime had planned for this. If things went wrong, if it looked certain that Deidara would either win or escape, it was HazōFreezeBabyFreeze's job to trigger the Superchiller rune and kill everything and everyone around. Hazō didn't know if the effect would reach outside the Force Dome that was currently over the battlefield; if it did then it might well scour a country. He was sure that the rune itself would survive its own effects. If it didn't...well, add 'runic failure' to the hurricane-force winds and freezing everything.

As of right now, it definitely looked like Deidara would either win or escape.

He took a deep breath and laid his hand on the rune.
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You tease, I spent the rest of the chapter waiting for the "and then the air vanished and everyone died" :p

I suppose I'm glad, in the end, that Hazoupilot didn't have what it takes. Even if it made sense to pull the trigger early, salvage what remains of the situation before it's unrecoverable, it wasn't game over just yet and holding out hope that the Sannin could pull through was indeed the right decision. In a sense, you could say hope triumphed over fear.
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Vote time! What to do now?
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The upside of our situation is that we're alive and in full control of the rift. The downside is that, unless we were extraordinarily lucky and 3+ other Akatsuki members got gibbed in the opening salvo, the Akatsuki still has enough strength to defeat Leaf once they realize what happened.

So, yeah, Orochimaru stays here and starts work on bringing the rift home, while Hazou runs ahead to set up a Force Dome to properly defend Leaf with. Time is of the essence so Noburi will have to go with Hazou to improve his running speed, instead of with Orochimaru to improve his rune-making speed. I think ideally we also leave Tsunade behind to keep Orochimaru honest, but imo this isn't the kind of situation where he feels safe enough defecting against Leaf: the presumably-four remaining Akatsuki members are still a serious threat to him and the Leaf that he still demonstrably desires to protect.

The big question from now on is: if we're going to be forcing a stalemate between Leaf and the Akatsuki, how long can we stretch it out and in what ways is it liable to break? Will they be able to force their way through our defenses? Will we rez our essies fast enough? Will more rune research swing the outcome? And I also gotta worry about the rest of Fire, going into siege mode basically means we're leaving them to fend for themselves. Still, needs must.
 
Why are we bee-lining to Leaf? Is it because we need Naruto for something? Why don't we scram? (ie, continue what we've been doing, going missing nin, etc, is the rift unable to move fast enough? Or?) We can just revive everyone later if need be.

Akasuki can almost certainly find a ninja with high enough physique to tunnel through the Iron Earth Rune within a week right?

Is the current plan to arrive in Leaf, create the force dome, and hope that Akasuki doesn't break through in less than a week while we play Fish in the Rift?
Inferno Vulpix said:
The big question from now on is: if we're going to be forcing a stalemate between Leaf and the Akatsuki, how long can we stretch it out and in what ways is it liable to break? Will they be able to force their way through our defenses? Will we rez our essies fast enough? Will more rune research swing the outcome? And I also gotta worry about the rest of Fire, going into siege mode basically means we're leaving them to fend for themselves. Still, needs must.
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Makes the earth around the rune resistant to motion.

Takes around 30 seconds to activate. Anyone tunneling within around a kilometer needs to roll their tunneling technique (or Physique, if working by hand) against the user's Runecrafting.
My reading is we probably can't hold a siege longer than a week(?) (someone tell me if I'm wrong)
 
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CitizenTen said:
Why are we bee-lining to Leaf? Is it because we need Naruto for something? Why don't we scram? (ie, continue what we've been doing, going missing nin, etc, is the rift unable to move fast enough? Or?)

Akasuki can almost certainly find a ninja with high enough physique to tunnel through the Iron Earth Rune within a week right?

Is the current plan to arrive in Leaf, create the force dome, and hope that Akasuki doesn't break through in less than a week while we play Fish in the Rift?
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If a single Rain ninja made it out, Akatsuki is at most twenty-four hours away from declaring war on Leaf. We need to beat them back home so that we don't return to find Leaf entirely levelled.
 
Zerovirus said:
If a single Rain ninja made it out, Akatsuki is at most twenty-four hours away from declaring war on Leaf. We need to beat them back home so that we don't return to find Leaf entirely levelled.
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But we just captured the Revive-Thon 3000 with us? Why do we care if they die? It's temporarily? Isn't losing access to it much more important (ie, not giving away our position)
 
Akatsuki is down their explosive super dude (assuming we have enough body parts)

They are still a threath of course. But they lost a major source of AoE.
 
Anyway, quick thought before I am off to bed.

We have Hidan's blood. I think the immediate next step is to have Canvass search over the rubble for signs of him, and then if we find a trail, follow it with a Sannin strike force.

If we don't find him, then use her (and the other trackers) to eradicate any nearby witnesses within a few miles. There were some ninja that might have spotted the aerial battle.
 
CitizenTen said:
But we just captured the Revive-Thon 3000 with us? Why do we care if they die? It's temporarily? Isn't losing access to it much more important (ie, not giving away our position)
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We know far too little about how the rift works to simply presume it makes death irrelevant, even in optimistic scenarios it only voids death in certain limited contexts. Also, like, you want to let the entirety of Leaf die, and march them out single file through the rift to the bombed-out ruins of their homes?

Even if you'd be okay with that, Tsunade and Naruto will not.
 
CitizenTen said:
But we just captured the Revive-Thon 3000 with us? Why do we care if they die? It's temporarily? Isn't losing access to it much more important (ie, not giving away our position)
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if we lose leaf, we lose the majority of our chakra sources as well as a major source of morale for ~everyone in the party. also we do not, actually, know that the revivetron 3000 works the way we want it to. for all we know, it only preserves people with chakra systems and all civilians who die are permadead.

also, like. leaf also represents a significant amount of material wealth and self-sufficiency. we are madmen who no longer understand what it is like to be poor anymore, but even assuming we can disregard all loss of life (and i am not saying i am at all biting that particular bullet yet), that doesn't address the loss of material security to the people of leaf if leaf is flattened. do we expect the population of leaf to return to subsistence-level lifestyles after we pull them out of the rift, if we don't have a prosperous city full of luxuries and housing and trade and a functional society to put them in? will we take in the entirety of leaf's population the way we took in civilians after the collapse? i can't imagine the rich and powerful clans of leaf being happy about such a thing.
Inferno Vulpix said:
Also, like, you want to let the entirety of Leaf die, and march them out single file through the rift to the bombed-out ruins of their homes?
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yeah, exactly. that.
ContextBot said:
Akatsuki is down their explosive super dude (assuming we have enough body parts)

They are still a threath of course. But they lost a major source of AoE.
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they've still got konan, don't count'em out on the front of city-levelling explosions just yet.
 
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