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- USA
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No, I'm saying that I had a braino and that should have been Pantrei. Will fix.Are you saying that Panda is representing the Pangolins at the Conclave along with being the Pangolin representative in Doggos territory
No, I'm saying that I had a braino and that should have been Pantrei. Will fix.Are you saying that Panda is representing the Pangolins at the Conclave along with being the Pangolin representative in Doggos territory
Whelp, I guess we're moving Leaf to Earth. We should call it Project Autumn.Note that a shadow clone cannot go more than 0.5 x AB miles from its creator.
At a glance, the amount of air supercooled with the nuke per second should be roughly the jutsu's surface area multiplied by the speed of sound, adjusted down by some minor factor due to the local dip in air pressure. Assuming the volume of effect is a 5m radius sphere (so 10m diameter), that gives around 100,000 m³/s. Spread out over a 1 square mile village, a mile being ~1600m, it would be be cooling air at a rate of ~5cm/s, or 1km over a 400 minute cast duration. This is assuming the cooling all ends up in the gasses, and excluding any density drop from the cooling, and is not accounting for the air pressure drop reducing the effectiveness. There will also be transient cooling from the reduction in pressure from gasses outside the jutsu, which I think can be ignored.
Here's my initial rewrite, will probably be tinkering with this all day[X] Action Plan: Hope for the Best, Plan for the Worst
Word Count: 297
- Nara
- Discuss Otter/Sand strategy with war advisors.
- Sand False Flag Operation:
- Hazou thinks it's a bad idea.
- If ploy fails, Sand might join Rock instead. Additionally, we're weakening a weak ally further.
- Instead of committing false flag against Sand, try performing false flag against Rock, posing as Sand?
- If ploy fails, operation is still valuable because it weakens our enemies. If successful, we can retreat into Wind Country to bait Rock into invading.
- There's less risk of turning an ally against ourselves.
- Preferably, no false flag at all. Jutsu and clan techniques are distinctive and would identify us as Leaf. Similarly, it's challenging imitating another village's signature abilities. To get Sand to deploy, we could offer better food deals or money. The Scroll, even.
- Otter Hunters - Stealth Option
- Necessary roles (some may overlap):
- Two Combat Specs.
- Suggestions: Yuno, Akane, a Summoner such as Kei or Ruri
- Social Spec/Infiltrator, for coaxing info out of locals without giving away ninja-ness.
- Suggestions: Mari, a Yamanaka, Anko
- Tracker/Scout/Anti-Ambush, for locating the Scroll and any useful locations our intel gives us.
- Suggestions: Hazou (he can acquire Summons), an Inuzuka
- Hyuuga or Sasuke for detecting the Scroll's chakra signature.
- Suggestions: Neji, Sasuke
- A Summoner.
- Suggestions: Hazou, Kei, Neji, Ruri
- Possible concerns:
- Inuzuka dogs, Hyuuga eyes, Aburame glasses, Summon Scrolls are all distinctive. Perhaps team could be granted ANBU masks to hide byakugan?
- Additionally:
- Hazou or Mari should stay to help run Goketsu, don't send both.
- Mission Outline
- Travel to Summoner's last known location.
- Retrace his journey north.
- Collect local intel.
- Locate Scroll.
- Ruri
- Optimize with Mari
- Pass on Kei's messages.
- Subtext: Pangolins visiting Condor is a trap for Condor resistance and their informants may be compromised/fed false info. They can't know Kei passed it along.
We got it back already btwGo acquire the Jashin holy symbol-- it's probably fine and you may need it in the future if SUDDENLY HIDAN.
Awesome, must've missed that. Fixed.
HAZOU: "O Lord of Conflict, hear my plea..."
EJ, WEARING A JASHIN COSTUME: "What offerings of blood and strife have you caused lately? You've been broken and beaten by the Sage's Seal and have been mired in meetings. What favor you have with me has grown tenuous."
HAZOU: "Deathly One, how might I find reconciliation?"
EJ-JASHIN: "Go forth and spill blood in my name."
Question from a non-physics person: How fast does the tornado part form? Slow enough that Akane won't have to worry about having trouble getting away?Whelp, I guess we're moving Leaf to Earth. We should call it Project Autumn.
At a glance, the amount of air supercooled with the nuke per second should be roughly the jutsu's surface area multiplied by the speed of sound, adjusted down by some minor factor due to the local dip in air pressure. Assuming the volume of effect is a 5m radius sphere (so 10m diameter), that gives around 100,000 m³/s. Spread out over a 1 square mile village, a mile being ~1600m, it would be be cooling air at a rate of ~5cm/s, or 1km over a 400 minute cast duration. This is assuming the cooling all ends up in the gasses, and excluding any density drop from the cooling, and is not accounting for the air pressure drop reducing the effectiveness. There will also be transient cooling from the reduction in pressure from gasses outside the jutsu, which I think can be ignored.
My conclusion is that a single cast at level 40 should be able to kill Rock from the temperature drop, if all the LN2 and LOX got into their city and evaporated (which it won't, the tornado will fling it everywhere), and it's not close enough for most of the other approximations to matter. That's stronger than I was expecting.
(One major question is if in practice liquid formation would happen fast enough for this to be the right model, or if you'd largely get a supercooled gas instead. I wouldn't expect an issue here, with all the pressure and shock waves and turbulence, and I wouldn't expect the QMs to survive the headache, but if you wanted to be true to the exotic physics going on, it's worth asking.)
[X] Action Plan: Hope for the Best, Plan for the Worst
Word Count: 297
- Nara
- Discuss Otter/Sand strategy with war advisors.
- Sand False Flag Operation:
- Hazou thinks it's a bad idea.
- If ploy fails, Sand might join Rock instead. Additionally, we're weakening a weak ally further.
- Instead of committing false flag against Sand, try performing false flag against Rock, posing as Sand?
- If ploy fails, operation is still valuable because it weakens our enemies. If successful, we can retreat into Wind Country to bait Rock into invading.
- There's less risk of turning an ally against ourselves.
- Preferably, no false flag at all. Jutsu and clan techniques are distinctive and would identify us as Leaf. Similarly, it's challenging imitating another village's signature abilities. To get Sand to deploy, we could offer better food deals or money. The Scroll, even.
- Otter Hunters - Stealth Option
- Necessary roles (some may overlap):
- Two Combat Specs.
- Suggestions: Yuno, Akane, a Summoner such as Kei or Ruri
- Social Spec/Infiltrator, for coaxing info out of locals without giving away ninja-ness.
- Suggestions: Mari, a Yamanaka, Anko
- Tracker/Scout/Anti-Ambush, for locating the Scroll and any useful locations our intel gives us.
- Suggestions: Hazou (he can acquire Summons), an Inuzuka
- Hyuuga or Sasuke for detecting the Scroll's chakra signature.
- Suggestions: Neji, Sasuke
- A Summoner.
- Suggestions: Hazou, Kei, Neji, Ruri
- Possible concerns:
- Inuzuka dogs, Hyuuga eyes, Aburame glasses, Summon Scrolls are all distinctive. Perhaps team could be granted ANBU masks to hide byakugan?
- Additionally:
- Hazou or Mari should stay to help run Goketsu, don't send both.
- Mission Outline
- Travel to Summoner's last known location.
- Retrace his journey north.
- Collect local intel.
- Locate Scroll.
- Ruri
- Optimize with Mari
- Pass on Kei's messages.
- Subtext: Pangolins visiting Condor is a trap for Condor resistance and their informants may be compromised/fed false info. They can't know Kei passed it along.
The conversation was already voted in in a different plan. Vel gave the option of having it happen offscreen or not and I would like to see it in a chapterI prefer to remove the section rather than devoting so minimum attention to the Ruri issue.
The conversation was already voted in in a different plan. Vel gave the option of having it happen offscreen or not and I would like to see it in a chapter
I don't know much about tornado formation but the jutsu is acting like a ~zero pressure void that's sucking in all the air it can get, so there's no chance you're escaping untouched at throwing range distance. Hence, use Shadow Clones. Even at 2 miles distance from the clone, there's a good chance there's some backspray and weather gets freaky (what, you assumed I meant there'd only be one tornado? no, there's only one main tornado, there might be more), so it'd be wise to start running.Question from a non-physics person: How fast does the tornado part form? Slow enough that Akane won't have to worry about having trouble getting away?
We would definitely learn more if we didn't though.We'd need to plan an escape route for Rock's thinker clan before deploying the EM nuke.
If I'm reading this correctly, that isn't true:The conversation was only to ask if Kei would want us to do this or not, not that the Ruri conversation happens or not.
If you want this, please put it in a plan, because it seems there isn't 100% hivemind consensus on whether it's a good idea. I enjoy writing Ruri, but if you're pressed for time/words and want to offscreen it, that's OK too (you just have less control over the outcome).
I think I misunderstand what you're trying to say. I thought you were saying Vel didn't mention we could or couldn't offscreen talking to Ruri. You mean the plan itself didn't mention talking to Ruri? In that case, I'm voting it in now