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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Shrooms said:
[X] Kabuto Gets Some New Friends
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  • Kabuto
    • Don't violate OPSEC or reveal information that hasn't been cleared.
    • Kabuto, just so you know, the SSSSS will likely be joining Leaf soon.
      • We heard they weren't fond of you, so we thought we'd notify you.
    • Also, here's the most up-to-date and high quality copy of the Great Seal we have, as well as an updated report on the DRAGONWAR.
      • Feel free to share with Orochimaru if it doesn't bug him.
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Seems antagonistic with the whole notification thingie. That's the vibe.

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  • Kumokogo
    • Bring HOWS Seals to Arachnid territory
    • Pitch Ami's Crusader idea. She's not familiar with 7th path denizens, how could it be improved?
      • Also, Condor Scouts should be coming by soon.
    • Describe landmarks around Rock fort, verify that it is the same island in lake that Kumokogo described.
      • Rock would capture or kill Hazou on sight, so if the Scroll is there, Hazou likely won't be able to access it.
      • If they have it, wonder why they haven't signed the contract yet? Hopefully they train a Sealmaster...
    • Explain what Hazou thinks will be needed to recreate the Seal for study. Earthshaping or drawing a topographic map?
    • If the plan to reach the Great Seal is the same as before, Hazou has timed Implosion Seals for the kamikaze troops to wear.
      • Take appropriate amount of time to learn how to activate as needed.
      • Show proper respect.
      • Hazou isn't expecting much, but in theory the Implosion seals should severely damage lungs if detonated near Dragons' chests.
    • Apply the HOWS to the Great Seal, ensure they work, and get out.
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I don't think it's necessary for Hazo to explain to spider wife how exactly is he going to recreate the seals for study, especially to someone who doesn't have any expertise in sealing. Just mention his progress.

Also, not a good idea to be inviting our enemy to help save the world.

We also don't need to be at the Great Seal if they can apply the seals for us(with instructions). No need to risk Hazo's life and limb.
 
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Kiba said:
Seems antagonistic with the whole notification thingie. That's the vibe.
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I can reword it? I don't think it sounds antagonistic but I can change some of it up. Do you have issues with any specific word choice?
Kiba said:
I don't think it's necessary for Hazo to explain to spider wife how exactly he is going to implement this.
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You mean this?
  • Explain what Hazou thinks will be needed to recreate the Seal for study. Earthshaping or drawing a topographic map?
Imo this is just expectations management so she knows how quickly we are making progress on study
 
[X] Therapy Sessions and Advanced Stonecraving

Mari:
  • Talk to Mari about Keiko's anger.
  • What does she feel about apologizing? How could she make a genuine apology?
Keiko and Ami
  • How can Mari make a genuine apology to the sisters?

Sealing:
  • Deliver HOWS to the spider boss, with attendant instructions on how to activate and implement them.
    • If Hazo still need to go, strategize with spider boss on distraction so that Hazo can emplace them safely. Suggests the use of implosion seals.
  • Investigate potential jutsu for fine stonecraving.
    • Needs to meet these criteria:
      • Capable of working with any stones.
      • Faster than craving/chiseling/sculpting
      • Can do fine work.
    • If not possible, have Gaku draw up a list of sculptors that Hazo could learn from.

Misc:
  • Order Haru to stop killing Yak.
 
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Shrooms said:
[X] Kabuto Gets Some New Friends
Word Count: 251
  • Kabuto
    • Don't violate OPSEC or reveal information that hasn't been cleared.
    • Kabuto, just so you know, the SSSSS will likely be joining Leaf soon.
      • We heard they weren't fond of you, so we thought we'd notify you.
    • Also, here's the most up-to-date and high quality copy of the Great Seal we have, as well as an updated report on the DRAGONWAR.
      • Feel free to share with Orochimaru if it doesn't bug him.
  • Kumokogo
    • Bring HOWS Seals to Arachnid territory
    • Pitch Ami's Crusader idea. She's not familiar with 7th path denizens, how could it be improved?
      • Also, Condor Scouts should be coming by soon.
    • Describe landmarks around Rock fort, verify that it is the same island in lake that Kumokogo described.
      • Rock would capture or kill Hazou on sight, so if the Scroll is there, Hazou likely won't be able to access it.
      • If they have it, wonder why they haven't signed the contract yet? Hopefully they train a Sealmaster...
    • Explain what Hazou thinks will be needed to recreate the Seal for study. Earthshaping or drawing a topographic map?
    • If the plan to reach the Great Seal is the same as before, Hazou has timed Implosion Seals for the kamikaze troops to wear.
      • Take appropriate amount of time to learn how to activate as needed.
      • Show proper respect.
      • Hazou isn't expecting much, but in theory the Implosion seals should severely damage lungs if detonated near Dragons' chests.
    • Apply the HOWS to the Great Seal, ensure they work, and get out.
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This ticks a lot of boxes as it stands. A few points, most of which apparently end in some variation of 'seems like a good idea'.
  1. Letting Kabuto know why the SSSSS is coming to Leaf (the Goketsu had to ally themselves with the SSSSS to pull off Isan) and that they hope that this does not result in friction between the Goketsu and Kabuto seems like it might be something good to call out.
  2. 'We would be interested in your feedback and/or Lord Orochimaru's feedback if it would not interfere with higher-priority projects' scans a little better to me than 'if it doesn't bug him'. Making it clear that we respect their priorities and that Kabuto's feedback is potentially valuable (who knows, maybe he bioseals) seems like a good idea, at least.
  3. I would try to calibrate with Kumokogo how many times her people can approach the Great Seal before they have a population crisis. I suspect Arachnids breed fast, but confirmation is a thing.
  4. We should brief them on how to tell if a seal is destroyed, ask them if they can track how many dragons are getting out, and advise as to the current duration of HOWS and when to expect us back with replacements/more if all goes according to plan.
  5. We really need to get Neji up there somehow. Can we negotiate a Shark to carry a Turtle over? Neji miiight be able to look at HOWS and see how much extra chakra we have kicking around, and if we're soaking it up.
  6. Maybe we should ease into the idea that we invited members of another Clan to her territory without asking her first. Enma probably wouldn't have said 'I'll get on this' if he thought it would be a problem, but minimizing social faux pas seems smart.
  7. It isn't clear to me that Kumokogo will have much input on 'here's how we're planning on studying the Great Seal' beyond 'alright, sounds like a plan, seal man'. Making it explicit that she's the greatest repository of Great Seal lore we have available and we're asking if she can provide literally any information seems smart. Also, maybe we should ask her if the Sage entrusted this responsibility to her personally or if this was handed down. If they met, that seems useful.
  8. I really like @RandomOTP's suggestion that we ask Noburi what direction he wants his training to go. Using the outcome of the vote to say 'we would recommend this, maybe?' seems sane, but asking the dude what he wants to do with his life seems like good practice.
 
FaintlySorcerous said:
This ticks a lot of boxes as it stands. A few points, most of which apparently end in some variation of 'seems like a good idea'.
  1. Letting Kabuto know why the SSSSS is coming to Leaf (the Goketsu had to ally themselves with the SSSSS to pull off Isan) and that they hope that this does not result in friction between the Goketsu and Kabuto seems like it might be something good to call out.
  2. 'We would be interested in your feedback and/or Lord Orochimaru's feedback if it would not interfere with higher-priority projects' scans a little better to me than 'if it doesn't bug him'. Making it clear that we respect their priorities and that Kabuto's feedback is potentially valuable (who knows, maybe he bioseals) seems like a good idea, at least.
  3. I would try to calibrate with Kumokogo how many times her people can approach the Great Seal before they have a population crisis. I suspect Arachnids breed fast, but confirmation is a thing.
  4. We should brief them on how to tell if a seal is destroyed, ask them if they can track how many dragons are getting out, and advise as to the current duration of HOWS and when to expect us back with replacements/more if all goes according to plan.
  5. We really need to get Neji up there somehow. Can we negotiate a Shark to carry a Turtle over? Neji miiight be able to look at HOWS and see how much extra chakra we have kicking around, and if we're soaking it up.
  6. Maybe we should ease into the idea that we invited members of another Clan to her territory without asking her first. Enma probably wouldn't have said 'I'll get on this' if he thought it would be a problem, but minimizing social faux pas seems smart.
  7. It isn't clear to me that Kumokogo will have much input on 'here's how we're planning on studying the Great Seal' beyond 'alright, sounds like a plan, seal man'. Making it explicit that she's the greatest repository of Great Seal lore we have available and we're asking if she can provide literally any information seems smart. Also, maybe we should ask her if the Sage entrusted this responsibility to her personally or if this was handed down. If they met, that seems useful.
  8. I really like @RandomOTP's suggestion that we ask Noburi what direction he wants his training to go. Using the outcome of the vote to say 'we would recommend this, maybe?' seems sane, but asking the dude what he wants to do with his life seems like good practice.
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All good points, I'll try to fit in where word count allows (first plan is basically doomed to not include a lot of that stuff, but we'll see).

Note though for 1, I'm not sure how much of that is OPSEC breaching so we may not be able to share that.
 
Shrooms said:
Note though for 1, I'm not sure how much of that is OPSEC breaching so we may not be able to share that.
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My (possibly incorrect) interpretation of plans that start 'OPSEC permitting' is that sections which would violate OPSEC are cut and Hazo does his best to patch over the cracks. 'Explain rationale behind Goketsu-SSSSS alliance and express desire to maintain/grow relationship with Kabuto' seems like something which could be excluded reasonably gracefully.

Assuming his reaction is not 'excellent, you brought my mortal enemies who have actually tried to have me assassinated a handful of times into the Leaf and you intend to adopt them, and make them citizens, I'll make sure this 'Great Seal' stuff goes riiight at the top of Orochimaru's inbox'.
 
Kiba said:
Are we even allowed to share that members of the SSSSS is joining?
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I think this has been addressed fairly thoroughly.
Shrooms said:
Kabuto
  • Don't violate OPSEC or reveal information that hasn't been cleared.
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FaintlySorcerous said:
My (possibly incorrect) interpretation of plans that start 'OPSEC permitting' is that sections which would violate OPSEC are cut and Hazo does his best to patch over the cracks. 'Explain rationale behind Goketsu-SSSSS alliance and express desire to maintain/grow relationship with Kabuto' seems like something which could be excluded reasonably gracefully.
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Shrooms said:
[X] Kabuto Gets Some New Friends
Word Count: 293
  • Kabuto
    • Don't violate OPSEC/reveal information that hasn't been cleared.
    • FYI, SSSSS will be joining Leaf soon. Their assistance was mission critical, this was a concession.
      • We heard they weren't fond of you, so we wanted to notify you.
    • Also, here's the most recent, highest quality copy of the Great Seal we have, and an updated report on the DRAGONWAR.
      • Yours and Orochimaru's insight would be very helpful if it is convenient for you.
  • Kumokogo
    • Bring HOWS Seals to Arachnids, explain lifespan/how to tell maintenance is needed.
    • Pitch Ami's Crusader idea. She's not familiar with 7th path, how could it be improved?
      • Also, Condor Scouts should visit soon to verify Dragons exist, on Enma's recommendation. Pardon us if this is rude.
    • Describe landmarks around Rock fort, verify it is the same island and lake Kumokogo described.
      • Rock would capture/kill Hazou on sight, so if the Scroll is there, Hazou likely can't access it.
      • If they have it, wonder why they haven't signed the contract yet? Hopefully they train a Sealmaster...
    • Explain what Hazou thinks will be needed to recreate Seal for study, manage expectations for research time.
      • Any lore/history helps. How long have arachnids guarded it? Did Kumokogo see its creation/meet the Sage?
    • If the plan to reach the Great Seal is the same as before, Hazou has timed Implosion Seals for the kamikaze troops to wear.
      • Show proper respect.
      • Take time to learn to activate seals as needed.
      • How frequently can Great Seal be approached with this strategy?
      • Hazou isn't expecting much, but Implosion seals could severely damage lungs if detonated near Dragons' chests.
    • Apply HOWS to Great Seal, ensure they work, get out.
  • Other (Offscreen)
    • Ask Noburi where he wants training to go. Is our suggestion okay?
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Updated the Kabuto plan. I'll work in what suggestions I can for the first plan, they likely won't all fit though.
 
FaintlySorcerous said:
Also, maybe we should ask her if the Sage entrusted this responsibility to her personally or if this was handed down. If they met, that seems useful.
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Probably just paranoia, but we might want to make sure we're alone if we ask this. It sounds like the kind of thing that could accidentally put her in a difficult political position, for example if 'the spider queen has always been the spider queen and to imply that her predecessors existed is treason' or something.

Again, probably just paranoia, but it sounds like the kind of thing we'd mess up due to not having the context, and that Hazō wouldn't catch since he also doesn't have the context.

Edit:
[X] Welcome Home, Here's Some Lists
 
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Sentient Tree said:
Probably just paranoia, but we might want to make sure we're alone if we ask this. It sounds like the kind of thing that could accidentally put her in a difficult political position, for example if 'the spider queen has always been the spider queen and to imply that her predecessors existed is treason' or something.

Again, probably just paranoia, but it sounds like the kind of thing we'd mess up due to not having the context, and that Hazō wouldn't catch since he also doesn't have the context.
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  • Any lore/history helps. How long have arachnids guarded it? Did Kumokogo see its creation/meet the Sage?
This is how it's worded in the plan, is it still bothering you?
 
Shrooms said:
Here's my plan from last cycle, I'll probably write a different plan tomorrow though.

[X] Welcome Home, Here's Some Lists
Word Count: 298
  • GOKETSU-ONLY MEETING
    • Hand out DRAGONWAR reports.
      • What do Noburi and Keiko think of Ami's Crusader idea?
    • Either we don't know where Arachnid Scroll is or it's in a Rock fort. Seems like a bust, unless someone disagrees...?
      • Discuss other Scroll options. Otter or Kraken seem the most promising to get Kagome to 7th Path quickly.
        • Too slow to affect the DRAGONWAR? If so, Hazou prefers any mission to retrieve a Scroll would be for Akane next.
          • Thoughts?
    • There is another...senior sealmaster in Leaf, but he hasn't been to Sealmaster meetings. Is it worth betting we can solve crisis without him?
  • Kumokogo
    • Bring HOWS Seals to Arachnid territory
    • Pitch Ami's Crusader idea. How could it be improved?
      • Also, Condor Scouts should visit soon to verify Dragons exist, on Enma's recommendation. Pardon us if that's rude.
    • Describe landmarks around Rock fort, verify it's the same island and lake Kumokogo described.
      • Rock would capture/kill Hazou on sight, so if the Scroll is there, Hazou likely can't access it.
      • If they have it, wonder why they haven't signed the contract yet? Hopefully they train a Sealmaster...
    • Explain what Hazou thinks will be needed to recreate Seal for study, manage expectations for research time.
      • Any lore/history helps. How long have arachnids guarded it? Did Kumokogo see its creation/meet the Sage?
    • If the plan to reach the Great Seal is the same as before, Hazou has timed Implosion Seals for the kamikaze troops to wear.
      • Take appropriate amount of time to learn to activate as needed.
      • Show proper respect.
      • Hazou isn't expecting much, but Implosion seals could severely damage lungs if detonated near Dragons' chests.
    • Apply HOWS to Great Seal, ensure they work, get out.
  • Other (Offscreen)
    • Ask Noburi where he wants training to go. Is our suggestion okay?
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Updated first plan with most of FS's suggestions. Didn't fit in the Neji thing or the "how often can we sacrifice arachnids and hornets to the blood god"

(For the record, I didn't fit the Neji thing into the Kabuto plan either)
 
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Shrooms said:
If the plan to reach the Great Seal is the same as before, Hazou has timed Implosion Seals for the kamikaze troops to wear.
  • Show proper respect.
  • Take time to learn to activate seals as needed.
  • How frequently can Great Seal be approached with this strategy?
  • Hazou isn't expecting much, but Implosion seals could severely damage lungs if detonated near Dragons' chests.
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To be clear, these are prepared one-seal SINs, correct? Not implosion seals, which need to be activated to do damage (and which Arachnids don't know how to do)?
 
Shrooms said:
so...you wanna vote for it? :p
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I was actually just checking it to decide that very thing. :p
Anything involving Kabuto or Orochimaru even tangentially is making me scream inside, but I accept the reasoning that we'll be catching their attention anyway with the SSSSS and it's better to at least try to get on their good side if we have to catch their attention anyway.

[] Kabuto Gets Some New Friends

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Unvoting because I've been convinced that this doesn't get on Kabuto's good side as much as I thought it did.
 
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faflec said:
That's...I think that will be a massive expenditure of the Arachnids' time, and I'm not sure if it's worth it.
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Worst case scenario, Hazou can place the HOWS the same way he viewed the Great Seal, and the Arachnids can test the efficacy of the Implosion seals on their own time. Giving another clan access to Seals what's the worst that could happen
 
Shrooms, Kiba, do you think you could squeeze in an offscreen bullet somewhere like
"Order Haru to stop killing yaks."?

He needs to stop his murder spree. We can address how/if to reprimand him later after the world is less on fire, but we need to at least tell him to chill in the meantime.


[X] Shrooms
 
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Kylinger said:
Shrooms, Kiba, do you think you could squeeze in an offscreen bullet somewhere like
"Order Haru to stop killing yaks."?

He needs to stop his murder spree. We can address how/if to reprimand him later after the world is less on fire, but we need to at least tell him to chill in the meantime.
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I do want to do this, I just wanted it to be its own scene...I'll see if I can fit it in

EDIT: Added to both of my plans, albeit offscreen.
 
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Something I should remind you of: Keiko feels the need to train Alertness. It made a significant difference during the chakra beast hunts, and not in a good way.
 
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