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Changed up wording so we aren't asking "how does it work", just "can it work for Atomu". Do you think that's safer Faflec?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Changed up wording so we aren't asking "how does it work", just "can it work for Atomu". Do you think that's safer Faflec?
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I think this would still have the same issues. Anything of any relevance to ninja is a major taboo in the Elemental Nations, to the point where people accidentally any Academy student who lasts long enough to get past their first year, since they know actual secrets (e.g., how to use jutsu). I can't imagine that any different with the Dog Clan in that sense, and we [the outsider former missing-nin Summoner who has known the Dogs for months at best] are asking on behalf of a guy who the Dogs have known for somehow even less time.
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Yeah but the dogs aren't like, categorically insane. In fact, they're probably the sanest 'people' we've interacted with in the entire story lol
I think the dogs will be aware that Hazou is asking from a place of compassion (they can smell that sort of thing, right?) so the worst response we'd get is "you haven't earned the right to know yet"/"we would like to meet this ninja and vet him before sharing any kind of secrets with him"
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Excuse me, I believe you meant 'an instance of two individuals spending a day together in order to facilitate greater mutual knowledge and familiarity, arranged in anticipation of a potential long-term relationship' with Snowflake. Right?
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Yes.
Of course, it is only in keeping with Snowflake's desire to explore her newfound agency, that we shall have to foist the responsibilities of designing the whole of that busy and eventful instance of two individuals spending a day together in order to facilitate greater mutual knowledge and familiarity, arranged in anticipation of a potential long-term relationship, off on her.
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The issue isn't the response we'd get (I expect we would get the former, with a pinch of "In addition, <the latter>"), the issue is that internally the Dogs will look down upon us for having asked the question when it should be really fucking obvious that we aren't that trusted yet (i.e., we should know that we aren't that trusted yet), therefore closing doors on us due to us being actually that stupid.
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[X] Action Plan: Its a Plan That Faflec Would Be Happier About
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- 7th Path
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- We are still investigating your ancestor's missing dog group. Could you give us their history to better help find them?
- How long ago was this? What breed were the dogs? How many dogs were there? What region of the Human path? Any information helps greatly.
- We may or may not need to do this, but would you be willing to let us summon you one extra time so that you may speak with an Inuzaka directly? They are the experts and it would assure less information is lost in transit
- We are still investigating your ancestor's missing dog group. Could you give us their history to better help find them?
- Canun and Cannai
- Meet with Cannai and your summons
- Ask about nearby packs and where they are, and if their Summoner has something to offer to their communities
- When's the next Taleswap? Are we welcome to attend?
- Meet with Cannai and your summons
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- Begin research on Strobelight Seals
- Explain Canvass quest to Gaku when you get back, have him hire ninja to start gathering relevant intel on wild dog packs in Fire
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- Wear a harness with a rope during your trip to the 7th path, have Candoru try to tug you in random directions as you make your way around
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Added another line. I don't expect your votes, but I hope this eases your concern some.
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[X] Action Plan: Doggy Style
I'm fairly certain Dog jutsu, like Pangolin jutsu, make use of their limbs/digits, which are obviously different from Humans. Maybe you could say instead:
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I would preface this with a statement along the lines of "Okay, so this is a purely academic question" or "Academic question:"
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I'd argue against this, since our goal is clearly to get this knowledge to Atomu which would make it very much a practical question and not an academic one.
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*handwaves*
Theres often significant overlap, it just depends on your perspective.
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Fair enough, I just had this SiK moment where Hazou did a lie and got chomped since we have a goal in mind and obfuscating our intentions and aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Oh yeah for sure.
There's probably a much better way to word that line of inquiry, but spoon budget demands that I not harp on the point too much.
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Care to bet that this is how we end up joining "Keiko's" harem ?
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Late on some of these, it's been busy.
If the mist/leaf Alliance is seen as strong and a threat, that only prompts external actions slightly slower than leaf being seen as getting stronger and being allies with mist. Plus, since Leaf is pretty precarious right now (see, recent Rock efforts, bi-monthly Kaiju), leaf getting a little stronger probably solidifies our position more than shakes it.
That said, for me the personal calculus is against Akane getting the scroll, so arguments have to overcome my high barrier of "this makes Akane more relevant, gets her more screentime, makes her happy in character, and paired with FOOM and decent reserves puts her on track to being the scariest person in the world. Which I like". Hana can be interesting, but ClanHead!Hazou, Boyfriend!Hazou, and Halberdier all feel like they'd need a very good argument to give Hana the scroll (on top of the decent argument you already made, since giving an enemy village a scroll is a pretty hard argument to sell. Ami got in noticeable political trouble over that in a less ambiguous circumstance).
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It's been mentioned before, but her analysis of what was happening during the soup incident was neither of Hazou playing a game and giving it up, or even a super accurate reflection of events. It was her trying and failing to deal with Mari while completely discounting a CQC summoner chunin sealmaster in close quarters in his house, which just dumb. And claiming "she considered it but dismissed it so it didn't even get written up" is both unproductively paranoid and does a discredit to the QMs writing of an interesting flawed character.
(I preface the next paragraph with the useless knowledge that I have been awake too long and as such what I intend to say may come out as more rude than intended, but I'll stand by my sentiment when I wake up next, whenever that is.)
Ami is very competent. For sure. And the thread does not have a perfect grasp on her. I certainly don't. But neither do you. And I'm aware of your stance that you are cursed and as such that you shouldn't ever vote or construct plans, and I'm not aware if it is just being a bit related to your not wanting to vote, or an actual logical fallacy. But, I personally do not appreciate you condescending to the hivemind's voting habits when you yourself do not participate at all. That seems rude, and not helpful.
I offered a deal about precommiting votes to your causes, and I believe you blew it off. If you don't want to actually take actions, vote, or make plans, that's fine, but please do not insult those of us actually willing to do so, since the thread members that consistently Make The Plans and Do The Things are, (as well as the amazing QMs) the ones who actually keep this running. So please. Actually vote and participate, and make plans occasionally if you don't like any winning ones, or please stop talking about other people's poor plans. Voting is not a high standard here, and I personally will take your opinions much more seriously if you're an active participant, rather than someone who just says "I told you so" retroactively on some issues out of a swath of predictions.
My apologies for the rant.
I think signaling interest in knowledge while admitting we know it's valuable is fine? Like, wanting to know how much your dream house costs when you're saving up and moderately broke just gives you an estimate on how much work to need to do to be able to get it. People don't think you're stupid for expressing eventual interest in a thing that most people think is valuable, but not everyone would be necessarily willing to invest the capital to buy, y'know?
Hopefully that metaphor makes sense, but if it doesn't: asking about it as a possibility and making clear we appreciate that it's a big deal seems fairly harmless, and we'd be remiss in our duty of care not to at least try.
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If the mist/leaf Alliance is seen as strong and a threat, that only prompts external actions slightly slower than leaf being seen as getting stronger and being allies with mist. Plus, since Leaf is pretty precarious right now (see, recent Rock efforts, bi-monthly Kaiju), leaf getting a little stronger probably solidifies our position more than shakes it.
That said, for me the personal calculus is against Akane getting the scroll, so arguments have to overcome my high barrier of "this makes Akane more relevant, gets her more screentime, makes her happy in character, and paired with FOOM and decent reserves puts her on track to being the scariest person in the world. Which I like". Hana can be interesting, but ClanHead!Hazou, Boyfriend!Hazou, and Halberdier all feel like they'd need a very good argument to give Hana the scroll (on top of the decent argument you already made, since giving an enemy village a scroll is a pretty hard argument to sell. Ami got in noticeable political trouble over that in a less ambiguous circumstance).
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It's been mentioned before, but her analysis of what was happening during the soup incident was neither of Hazou playing a game and giving it up, or even a super accurate reflection of events. It was her trying and failing to deal with Mari while completely discounting a CQC summoner chunin sealmaster in close quarters in his house, which just dumb. And claiming "she considered it but dismissed it so it didn't even get written up" is both unproductively paranoid and does a discredit to the QMs writing of an interesting flawed character.
(I preface the next paragraph with the useless knowledge that I have been awake too long and as such what I intend to say may come out as more rude than intended, but I'll stand by my sentiment when I wake up next, whenever that is.)
Ami is very competent. For sure. And the thread does not have a perfect grasp on her. I certainly don't. But neither do you. And I'm aware of your stance that you are cursed and as such that you shouldn't ever vote or construct plans, and I'm not aware if it is just being a bit related to your not wanting to vote, or an actual logical fallacy. But, I personally do not appreciate you condescending to the hivemind's voting habits when you yourself do not participate at all. That seems rude, and not helpful.
I offered a deal about precommiting votes to your causes, and I believe you blew it off. If you don't want to actually take actions, vote, or make plans, that's fine, but please do not insult those of us actually willing to do so, since the thread members that consistently Make The Plans and Do The Things are, (as well as the amazing QMs) the ones who actually keep this running. So please. Actually vote and participate, and make plans occasionally if you don't like any winning ones, or please stop talking about other people's poor plans. Voting is not a high standard here, and I personally will take your opinions much more seriously if you're an active participant, rather than someone who just says "I told you so" retroactively on some issues out of a swath of predictions.
My apologies for the rant.
I think signaling interest in knowledge while admitting we know it's valuable is fine? Like, wanting to know how much your dream house costs when you're saving up and moderately broke just gives you an estimate on how much work to need to do to be able to get it. People don't think you're stupid for expressing eventual interest in a thing that most people think is valuable, but not everyone would be necessarily willing to invest the capital to buy, y'know?
Hopefully that metaphor makes sense, but if it doesn't: asking about it as a possibility and making clear we appreciate that it's a big deal seems fairly harmless, and we'd be remiss in our duty of care not to at least try.
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*raises finger*
To sidestep your poimts a bit, I do think you might have missed one element here, which I think might be worth commenting on.
In my longish tenure as a player in this game, I have often found meaningfully detailed discussion tends to be a good aid in terms of productive playing. The same goes for funny half-serious thrice-intoxicated shitposting (CHAOS suits!).
In my comparatively short tenure on the QM side in such a game, this still holds. I expect this to be mostly the case going forward.
I say this, mostly so that those that might not have the time to keep up with the voting and whatnot but still participate in a nice positive way get their kudos too. : )
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Seems to me that Halberdier didn't necessarily have a problem specifically with the not voting, but also denigrating the things that do get passed while not participating
Good post though, and I agree
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Oh yeah, I was just throwing in an aside.
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[X] Action Plan: Operation Plot Hook Mambo Number Five Rooty Tooty Spaghooti and Meatballs With a Side of Sealing and A Nice Chianti (In Which We Summon Reanu Keeves).
It was in Fire country, iirc.