Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
[X] The Sensible Approach
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- uk
How about this mostly rewording:?
We really should not even suggest full KI of a kage could be used on us. At best it gives J a laugh. Also more conceretly ask for his help by exposure. And shorter!
Also do we skip to tournament after this?
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Tournament skipping is probably happening regardless. I dont think we can fit anything but one night in on the way there before we get back to Mist.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
I will have time to implement any feedback tonight, in about 5-6 hours. Wordcount optimizations are appreciated. If someone else has more time/availability feel free to fork and I'll also vote for it later.
Suggestions/adendums to the fuzzyfeelgood section also appreciated.
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
- Location
- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
[X] The Sensible Approach
@Roomba I am on board in general as well with regards to meeting and talking to Ami but there are two points that I see as issues:
The first is that we have little privacy while traveling due to the Hyuuga, since it's a reasonable guess that we are staying close to each other for protection. Asking Jiraiya to use his KI on route is similarly iffy but has the safeguard of him being able to just shut us down and tell us to do it later if it's an issue.
The second point is that, timing aside, asking Keiko directly probably wouldn't work. I'd be open to do so as part of another plan with better timing/privacy just to try it but I think there is a better way to get a foot in with regards to meeting Ami, one that I had wanted to see before we left Mist: spending time as a group with our ex-clans. If we can somehow manage to get a dinner invite to the Mori compound we are bound to run into Ami because she, too, has to be curious about our group and would likely want to see if we are capable of supporting Keiko.
But again, asking Keiko to get us an invite or even accept it by herself is likely not going to work. However if this were part of meeting the Kurosawa, Wakahisa and then Mori in subsequent nights it could work. We could have Hazou act like he doesn't want to see the Kurosawa himself (probably not much acting required) but that he is making the sacrifice so Noburi won't feel bad for wanting to see his sisters and Keiko might not be immune to social cues like reciprocity.
And if that doesn't work, maybe we can bring up the point to Jiraiya and argue that it might be a good thing for our clan/Leaf if we are good in standing with our old clans to help the alliance along so he accepts/organizes these dinners himself with the respective clan heads.
@Roomba I am on board in general as well with regards to meeting and talking to Ami but there are two points that I see as issues:
The first is that we have little privacy while traveling due to the Hyuuga, since it's a reasonable guess that we are staying close to each other for protection. Asking Jiraiya to use his KI on route is similarly iffy but has the safeguard of him being able to just shut us down and tell us to do it later if it's an issue.
The second point is that, timing aside, asking Keiko directly probably wouldn't work. I'd be open to do so as part of another plan with better timing/privacy just to try it but I think there is a better way to get a foot in with regards to meeting Ami, one that I had wanted to see before we left Mist: spending time as a group with our ex-clans. If we can somehow manage to get a dinner invite to the Mori compound we are bound to run into Ami because she, too, has to be curious about our group and would likely want to see if we are capable of supporting Keiko.
But again, asking Keiko to get us an invite or even accept it by herself is likely not going to work. However if this were part of meeting the Kurosawa, Wakahisa and then Mori in subsequent nights it could work. We could have Hazou act like he doesn't want to see the Kurosawa himself (probably not much acting required) but that he is making the sacrifice so Noburi won't feel bad for wanting to see his sisters and Keiko might not be immune to social cues like reciprocity.
And if that doesn't work, maybe we can bring up the point to Jiraiya and argue that it might be a good thing for our clan/Leaf if we are good in standing with our old clans to help the alliance along so he accepts/organizes these dinners himself with the respective clan heads.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Running on dregs today so this is all I got:
- Warm/half-jokingly: What does a guy have to do to become Jiraiya's apprentice, anyway?
- Location
- Potato land
Cool, I'm very interested in your proposed alternative.
Just FYI, the fuzzy feelgood stuff I wrote wasn't really for the purpose of actually resisting Jiraiya's presence. It was a way for Hazou to better understand his own beliefs. I know you think epiphanies count for little, and consistent action wins the game, but Hazou has the opposite problem. He already spends a lot of time daily working towards his goals; but his understanding of said goals is fairly shallow and consists of a bunch of platitudes about civilians and peace. I was hoping to focus and drill down to the core of what keeps Hazou going, and continue building on that later.
My point is, the fuzzy feelgood stuff should be an opportunity for character development first and foremost if you do include it.
That sounds like it could work. The main issue I have with it is that there's a lot of steps between where we are now and where we'd maybe get an opportunity to talk to Ami in private. And for each of these steps, we'd need to convince both Keiko and the hivemind to go along with it. Sounds pretty tough. I tend to prefer simple plans with few moving parts, but maybe that's not an option here.
- Location
- Poland
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] The Sensible Approach
YES.
OH GOD YES.
It was funny at first, this stuff about beating Keiko up.
But it started being less and less funny.
Best memes are rational memes.
Oh, also:
[X] Training Plan: Wait
YES.
OH GOD YES.
It was funny at first, this stuff about beating Keiko up.
But it started being less and less funny.
Best memes are rational memes.
Oh, also:
[X] Training Plan: Wait
Origami Clock
Right twice a day
- Location
- Brighton, UK
[x] the sensible approach
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I am open to collussion on this front if concessions can be made as far as devoting effort/votes/time to things I'd like to do. Likewise, I believe the same is true for many others.
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
- Location
- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
@Vecht
Maybe sneak in a probing question to Jiraiya about whether it's a good idea to push for closer bonds between us and our ex-clans via clan dinners (to help the Leaf-Mist Alliance along)? Gotta make sure we ask him in private though, out of earshot of Nobby, Keiko and the other clan heads.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
You could always bribe us. That worked well for eaglejarl.
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
[Χ] (lethal) Yes
Aren't you proud of us?
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
[X] The Sensible Approach
Maybe include something like 'If Jiraiya approves, give it a try now? Be strong, Hazou.' I think the QMs would enjoy writing that scene, and I would enjoy reading it, and even without going full memetic shounen it would still be productive towards our goals on that front.
- Location
- US
[X] Velorien
A vote of full confidence.
A vote of full confidence.
- Location
- Potato land
The ultimate meme vote.
[X] Training Plan: Wait
We don't have a business project to generate revenue. I believe one of our proposal is to generate salt.
Also, I would like to see effort to expand the glassworking industry and telescopes. Every clan has one (apparently), but it's not cheap enough to bring down its cost. We probably want to help glassworkers and telescope makers migrate.
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TaliesinSkye
Occasional Editor
- Location
- Northeast Ohio, United States
While I like the added detail in asking Jiraiya questions, this is boring. Projecting love and reassurance at Keiko would make for a much more interesting update, and is basically harmless. It's not going to backfire horribly, just be entertaining.
In any event we /NEED/ to ask Jiraiya for intelligence on the competition. Now, before things start while we still have a small time to make any necessary special preparations for dealing with specific enemy powers. If you really want to be boring and sensible at least add that much.
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