It is explicitly unknown if we would get any power from this, and even more unknown how it would function. There is no citation.
It doesn't say it gives you control of it's powers; it says you have control on whether those powers can slip through the seal.
You'd still need Daz to actually do anything.
This isn't Naruto where he could simply channel Kyuubijuice regardless of whether Kurama wanted it or not..
Again, not what I meant when I said controlling the Seal. I meant, this:
We can control the seal itself, we don't know if we can do anything with his power in it, by WOG.
We can control what he sees and doesn't see, and use it to punish or reward behaviour. We can send what we feel when we act so that it has context to see why we do what we do. If we believe that he is somewhat reformed, we can lower our barriers so that it can somewhat interact with the real world. And most importantly, if we think he is successfully reformed, we can release it with its powers, which we can't do if he is chibified.
The advantage of having him in our head is that we can modify the seal and its punishment according to how the situation evolves. Which, yes, it might mean we could let his powers out to help but it is not the only reason why such thing might be relevant.
As for the "power up" I am skeptical of it being a direct power up. The only "power up" I see is it training us in our psychic skills (which given that it mocked us for our lack of training them, it probably can) but that can be done with both seals. So no, I am not voting for it for a direct power up.
Why I am voting for it, in regards of the ambitious trait, is because of this: If we can succesfully reform Dazzarel with the sealed inside of us option, then we can release him, in which case we end up with a 900M strong, psychic dragon as a hero unit. On the other hand, if we successfully reform him as a chibi, we end up with a chibi dragon with sealed powers as a hero unit.
It is the same reasoning that made me so excited about Maya when we saw her growth (hero unit who can surpass the untransformed saiyan population) and the same reasoning I wanted to befriend Tabe after his performance in the tournament (great saiyan warrior who is heir of loyalist house as hero unit). The better our allies are, the more power projection we have when it comes to ruling our clan in the future. I equate getting powerful allies and subordinates as increasing our power and sealing Dazz inside our head offers better rewards if the reformation is successful and it becomes our ally.
Neither of which is a good thing.
This is a declaration, of a lack of trust in the rest of the Saiyan population.
This is how you start working towards a Control Freak or Paranoid trait.
Also this.
I can unhappily easily imagine adult Kakara going down a "Kakara knows better than everyone" path as an evolution of Ambitious (with a side order of Oddball and Decisive). I don't think it's likely, but compulsive hoarding of information and access to power sources is one way to get there IMO.
Look, we don't know the full extent of what the galaxy knows about the enemy or the full extent of the situation with Tarble's descendants. Thus, I don't know how the saiyan population would react to learning that there are more saiyans in the galaxy and that something or someone is killing them. So I want to learn about the situation without having a chance of Dazzarel babbling to any random saiyan about it, so that we can consult with the other royals about how to best release the information or if we should at all to better control the crowd reaction. It is the same reasoning that led to Dad having the seers keep quiet about the Dazzarel vision so that we could arrange the best moment for the population to learn about it.
It is not Kakara thinking she knows best than everyone else who should know something or not, it is a part of the government keeping possibly critical information away from the populace so that they have forewarning in deciding how to respond to it. If it were just a matter of information about the enemy or saiyans in space, we could do that with chii seal and limiting interactions but the main appeal of chibi seal is the possibility of Dazz interacting with a greater part of the population, which means at some point we would let them interact with them. Considering how long Dazzarel has lived and that we don't even know what to begin asking about the galaxy at large, there will always be a chance we missed on asking critical information about a future situation that we would like first access to the information it might have about it.
...For that matter, if we were worried about the dragon spilling the beans about the conspiracy, we could just give the chibi dragon to Apra to keep for a while! She already knows the conspiracies we're engaged in, and approves, and clearly doesn't want the dragon talking because she's the one who voted for "seal him inside a rock and sink him in the ocean."
That sounds like an awful idea. It means that Dazz would have to be under constant surveilance for anything it might learn from living with grandma if he didn't learn of the conspiracy beforehand and Apra might have other things to do in which she can't take Dazzarel.
My reason for talking about trait evolution isn't because it's the only thing that might go wrong, it's because we can confidently predict that trait evolution is going to happen here. And the single trait most likely to be affected by this decision is the one that so critically influences whether or not the decision even happens: Ambitious.
We could also evolve the mild distrust we have of sorcery from A Cause into a greater distrust due to the several pages of discussion in which we doubt the expert opinion of most of our sorcerers regarding the sealing procedure.
We don't get access to the dragon's power from this deal unless we make the seal highly permeable and give the dragon access to power, at which point the dragon may simply be able to meat-puppet us because we just unsealed its psychic abilities while it was inside our mind.
Except the dragon showed no indication of having a psychic ability that would let him do that.
Have you paused to consider what happens if we don't end up voting to spend several actions trying to reform Dazarel (which could take a LOT of actions) over the course of the next few years? I mean, what if the majority of the thread decides that long-time concerns like the aliens and the coming-out of ki users on Garenhuld and training the Misfits and the conspiracy to unseal Jaffur are more important?
If people vote not to spend much time specifically working on Dazarel until later, and he's a head-dragon, he's locked in solitary confinement for years before we even see him.
If people vote not to spend much time on him and he's a chibi, then at least he hasn't been locked in the attic and forgotten entirely; other people can still interact with him.
If we don't vote to spend actions on him, and bear in mind that we have reason to expect that it will take several actions to do so, over an extended period of time...
Well, in that case, Kakara just doesn't have much time for the dragon. If he interrupts her enough times while she's trying to focus on other things, either it'll penalize her rolls on other things, it'll reduce her supply of action points, or she'll lock down the seals and force the dragon to leave her alone most of the time.
This is not an implausible outcome; Kakara is super busy, and any persistent disruption to her schedule impacts her ability to get anything done. Plus she's already on the edge of a nervous breakdown from how much random crap she's dealing with. It would be fully in character, IF the quest-goers don't explicitly vote "[K] Redeem Dazarel" in the yearly action vote, for Kakara to just get tired of being interrupted and lock Dazarel down for extended periods of time, which would only grow longer if he continued to be a distraction.
No free lunches.
We had to deliberately schedule time to spend with our brother in order to get a handle on his jealousy and our deterioriating relations, and he's our brother.
We are not likely to get free time with Daz.
We have been over this. Someone mentioned we will definitively have to take social options if we chooseto seal him inside of us, Poptart replied that if sealed inside of us then Kakara would interact with him by default because the vote to seal him in our head is meant to have him interact with us. We could always interact with him when we are not doing something critical. And no, it would not be in character for Kakara to shut him out automatically because the intent behind said vote is to take responsability to redeem it ourselves.
People are explicitly talking about socializing said hostile dragon , and bringing up how they think we won't need actions to attempt to change his loyalties and behavior. In a Quest where we had to spend Actions to repair the relationship with our brother.
Slight error in interpretation. People don't think that having him in our head means an automatic action to convince him to change behavior, it means that Kakara interacts with him without a dedicated action to that. It means we spend time with him, automatically. Which doesn't mean that Kakara will spend extra time trying to convince him about the sanctity of life but, since characters are not static, it opens the possibility of Dazzarel growing attached to her.
We had to spend an action to repair our relationship with our brother to repair our relationship with our brother. We still interacted with him in a daily basis. That is how she noticed she had to repair her relationship with her brother. The action was to put the extra effort into it, to ask him what his problem was and spend more time with him until it was freaking fixed.
A second point to make, Kakara choosing she doesn't want running commentary does not necessarily mean she will sensory deprive him. She can cancel his ability to snide at her without making him blind to the world. If he still wishes to be a jerk afterwards and doesn't want to talk, that is his choice but we are not as cruel as to put him in a box. And seeing from our eyes might help him grow attached even if he doesn't want to talk.
Besides, if the self option wins, I want to spend actions on him. Because of the reasons at the begining of this post. Besides, if you really think that people are voting on this for extra power, which would probably require interacting with Dazzarel to access, wouldn't that mean they would vote to interact with him? On the other hand, if they vote on this option because this way they don't need an specific AP to interact with him, doesn't that mean they want to see the interaction with him and thus Kakara would be unlikely to shut up said interaction, since the thread translates as her thoughts? Either they want this for extra power, which means they are likely to vote to interact with him or they are voting this so that they can interact with him without using an AP, which means they want to see the interaction with him. Neither of those seem like they would shut him out in solitary confinement with sensory deprivation.
Though I've somehow missed this, has there been a bunch of discussion about Learning Tinkering and forming a Drama Club? This is the first I remember hearing about it. Just curious if I somehow missed a bunch of discussion about it, which is totally possible.
And honestly if we're learning new non-combat skills I think it might behoove Kakara to learn Ki-Healing and up her Medicine skill, she gets a trait that boosts that and her eventually heading toward being some kind of Medical Doctor might be interesting
Learning tinkering is something a couple of people wanted to do but there was no concensus. Drama club was closer to one, as a way to get Kakara to have a hobby, training deceit and make her more aproachable to the human population since story telling (and drama because of it) is a big thing in Garenhuld.
