No idea who knows that exact tale, but 'dragons have a creation myth where they're totally cool and are responsible for everything good and nothing bad' is the sort of thing that would come as a surprise to literally nobody.
Aren't they kinda responsible for everything bad too in that story? They called the Old Ones to build risky magitech. They hunted the Fimir and Dragon Ogres to the point that Chaos was their only respite.
Now what does "the radiance we happily bask in" mean I wonder? Outer space? Travel through the Warp if we want to go hard Warhammer 40K?
Probably just solar radiation.
Awww, I hope the space geese can someday resume their migration patterns.
I'm a bit confused why, if Star Dragons used to leave this planet even when it was a low resource ice ball, they don't anymore. You'd expect them to stick around, mate a few times, raise a couple generations and then leave once they are sure they leave behind enough adults to teach the remaining young ones how to spacefare properly.
Caledor was named after Caledor Dragontamer, so unless he was named after a city, that doesn't fit.
Speculation: The city used to be named just Cl. It morphed to Cal and/or Caled, then Caledor, named partially after the city, was awesome enough to have one more syllable added to the city's name.
We should memorize Cython's rant in response, and deliver it to Deathfang when we next see him, then take what he says back to Cython, on and on as long as the quest goes. This is truly the metaplot we signed up for
This, but unironically.
On the other hand there are still dragons around. Where are the Old Ones?
Off to a new biosphere after accidentally leaking radioactive waste into this one?
Implying that there are no Sigmarites in the whole academy that would like to have a long talk with us if were to publish this.
Sigmarites should be happy with this, if we word it a bit more carefully. They already know that their god is an ascended mortal. Learning that all the other gods aren't of inherently worthier stock should be a confirmation of their beliefs. Ulricans on the other hand...
The steamwagons might not be economically viable as transports, but they are hardly without their uses.
If they are less useful than specifically having four additional river monitors then converting them is the right choice.
So what exactly is the human/Empire creation myth for humans then? Humans clearly existed before Sigmar.
That's actually a really interesting question. Also, do the various large and official cults of the Empire agree on their cosmology in public (i.e. outside of cult secrets) just like you would expect from a unified pantheon, or do they all consider each other dead wrong on basic stuff and simply tolerate each other by not talking theology at the dinner table?
Namely, getting Thorgrim to name Belegar as the heir to the High Kingship. Given their personal relationship, that would be an uphill task, but I don't believe it to be impossible. Belegar just making a personal petition for it or something would presumably not get far, but if other Holds are backing him in this then that instantly makes it far more credible. A High King's task is to lead the Karaz Ankor as a whole after all, and a leader who already has the backing of other Holds surely has a leg up when it comes to being named heir to the position. With enough backing, it actually becomes awkward NOT to name him as heir.
Aren't High Kings elected? At least if there is no natural-born heir that is?
Still catching up, but a point I would like to make:
Mathilde's staff is a machine. Her belt and sword are machines. The mirror-box she trapped her snake in is a machine.
Arguable even the stabilised energy matrix shaped like a seed embedded in her hand is a machine.
The whole 'magic =/= technology' nomenclatural divide is something that would never occur to someone in a setting with actual magic.
I disagree. At least in the Empire. For hundreds of years whenever an engineer who wasn't also a priest did something unprecedented and miraculous he had to say something along the lines of "it's just a machine, I swear" to the Witch Hunters knocking at his door.
While Sigmar and Ranald are known "ascended" gods, the rest of humanity's aren't. This new information could be seen as extremely radical, doubly so when it comes to certain extremist cults.
So you're saying that this is the kind of heresy that a Ranaldite would be in favor of spreading while also being the rare kind of heresy a Sigmar supremacists wouldn't be bothered by?
The original post was 'I wonder how much of it is true'. My guess is all of it, it's just not the whole truth and far from it. Lying to your children about their history directly is bad parenting, not going into complex sociology and political science while doing it is common sense.
An important note is that this might just be the paraphrased version of the story Deathfang got from their own parents. Even third generation immigrants often know mich more detailed stories about how their grandparents came to the country they now live in. Deathfang tells it like something he'd be an authority on, which give draconic tendencies to arrogance, could still mean that he was born three to six generations after anything mentioned in this story actually happened.
Honestly the most interesting thing about this story is what it means for the Skaven and the We.
Care to elaborate?
Why does this say that in the story Radixashen joined with Rhya? In the update it said he was corrupted and disappeared into the earth.
Because Deathfang said so previously and editing that in makes the story more PC.
Alternatively, do the Eonir have any dragons? I know the Wood Elves do.
I wouldn't be surprised if their corrupted by Deathfang's standards, but that doesn't mean they've completely forgotten the stories of their ancestors. Even if their version is dramatically different, if it still has some of the key elements that's collaboration of a sort. Multiple versions of the same story doesn't let you know what version is true or even most widely accepted, but it would confirm that there is a story there and it would confirm that Deathfang didn't make it up on the spot out of whole cloth just to mess with us. Even just multiple stories agreeing on the Ice World thing would be ground shattering news.
I'd be interested to see what Cython has to say about this.
@BoneyM going out to look for sentient non-hostile dragons within the region of the Old World be a valid personal side-project for Mathilde?
