Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Not here, but that doesn't mean not anywhere.
If the dragons had their way, they wouldn't be here, either.
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If the dragons had their way, they wouldn't be here, either.
MiracleGrow
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- Location
- DOOR STUCK DOOR STUCK PLEASE I BEG U
On their space fairing clown cars somewhere far away.
Or eaten by chaos. They vanished during the second incursion.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
I mean Cython is right here and whilst wind dragons probably don't have exactly the same beliefs there has to be some serious over lap.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Implying that there are no Sigmarites in the whole academy that would like to have a long talk with us if were to publish this.
If we published this and the text was declared heretical, that would break both the first and the third Articles of Magic, maybe seventh, depending on how you look at it. Well, the seventh doesn't matter since we already broke it over the knee and burned the remains.
- Location
- Manchester, UK
- Pronouns
- He/They
The differences can be as informative as the similarities, given as they diverge from a common source.
- Location
- UK
At this point I'm convinced the Old Ones were some irresponsible kids/idiots who bailed when they got Chaos attention.
Before now I considered they could have been simply efficient and amoral by nature, but that wouldn't explain allying with the dragons. It implies whimsy and emotion in my view, providing the dragons aren't even more confused than it seems.
I wonder if a responsible Old One shows up now and figures out what happened if they would be horrified by the irresponsible, amoral and possibly illegal actions of their predecessors, akin to an adult finding out a kid had been drowning puppies at the park.
ConfusedCanuck
Where did it all go wrong?
- Location
- Neverland
Jeez Deathfang that was informative and intimidating.
I'm sure the colleges were given a sure reminder as to why to never give a sigmarite power within the colleges seeing as Alric actively suppresses it if i am to believe, esspecially so after the seige on the colleges by the order of Sigmar.
Either way were sending it to the colleges as a little tid bit and seeing as the grey order has a position to censor potentially damaging info i don't see much to worry about.
A very pessimistic assessment from the ranger. The steamwagons might not be economically viable as transports, but they are hardly without their uses. Even at their limited speed they allowed the expedition to carry supplies and artillery for more quickly that is conventionally possible. For a people far more able to spend gold and iron than blood I can see a modified and refined steamwagon being a very useful weapon of war.
Seems we are far from the only Wizard looking for new horizons to chase.
An unusual perspective on several matters.
Well then.
It is just a story. There is no proof to back it up. But if it is true, the implications…
Not if you're writing it as comparative mythology.
Now speculating on the specifics of the Imperial Gods now...that there is risky ground.
But "this is what a Deathfang said to Mathilde" isn't any more heretical "this is what Teclis said to Volans".
The only issue is that a random dragon is not a sufficiently solid source of information...
I think the idea would be to independently get the draconic origin story from Cython without letting slip about Deathfang's version. Thats how you get independent collaboration!
That plot's already done...Ratotoskr carries shittalk between the eagle at the top of Yggdrasil and the dragon at the bottom.We should memorize Cython's rant in response, and deliver it to Deathfang when we next see him, then take what he says back to Cython, on and on as long as the quest goes. This is truly the metaplot we signed up for
- Location
- Mexico
Well, we do have a diary full of rubbings of the sacred gold tablets of the Slann to poke at.
If you think about it, creation myths are just 2 dragons sitting on different continents talking about how strongly they feel about each other.
Internal college papers are not available to anyone who is not a wizard and we already believe lots and lots of heretical things. In order Heretical Beliefs of the colleges of magic:
- The Gods of Order live on the same plane as the Gods of Chaos, Sigmar does not live in Sigmar heaven with the righteous
- Priestly miracles are just magic and all spellcasting priests could have been wizards
- Divine marks are mutations, if benign ones
- The gods use Hysh (Thanks Horstman)
The cities are older than the arrival of Chaos, while iirc both Halfings and Ogres were explicitly created as weapons for that war.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
That's been canon for ages?
Well, given that by breaching the Shroud you can meet entities that fit the Chaos Gods really well...
The issue is laid out, the areas where a heavily armored vehicle can traverse hostile terrain without superior alternatives are very scarce.
If they need one they'd be building one specifically for the job but there's no such job, and it takes too many engineers to keep running for a "just in case"
Actually, let me try to guess what Cython's argument would be if this story were recounted to them in full.
"Oh, they're all going to turn into Star Dragons and find another world, are they? Did you notice the part where in a world allegedly cleared of all possible rivals or predators, quote 'many dragons' grew gaunt and withered and died? If Deathfang is saying the ratio was one withered to one Star Dragon he is completely full of shit. And that was before the coming of Chaos! Listen, I'm not going to say that no dragon is ever going to grow and find enough strength to fly off this world again, but what do you think the odds on any particular dragon managing to do that are? Hint, not good. What are the odds they find some other world to settle on before expiring? I couldn't even guess. Let's see, what's a good example. You told me about that Kragg fellow, right? Saying 'I'm going to be a Star Dragon' is like some young dwarf telling you, 'I'm going to live as long as Kragg'. Theoretically possible, but good luck kid! In the meantime, I'll be over here healthy, strong, and adapted to this world and living out a life where the energies of the world aren't trying to corrode me away before I miraculously grow powerful enough to leave it."
"Oh, they're all going to turn into Star Dragons and find another world, are they? Did you notice the part where in a world allegedly cleared of all possible rivals or predators, quote 'many dragons' grew gaunt and withered and died? If Deathfang is saying the ratio was one withered to one Star Dragon he is completely full of shit. And that was before the coming of Chaos! Listen, I'm not going to say that no dragon is ever going to grow and find enough strength to fly off this world again, but what do you think the odds on any particular dragon managing to do that are? Hint, not good. What are the odds they find some other world to settle on before expiring? I couldn't even guess. Let's see, what's a good example. You told me about that Kragg fellow, right? Saying 'I'm going to be a Star Dragon' is like some young dwarf telling you, 'I'm going to live as long as Kragg'. Theoretically possible, but good luck kid! In the meantime, I'll be over here healthy, strong, and adapted to this world and living out a life where the energies of the world aren't trying to corrode me away before I miraculously grow powerful enough to leave it."
- Location
- Mexico
Nooo, how could my kin let this happen!? i will not tolerate this travesty a second longer
*snaps finger*
There, fixed, to move a poor planet closer to it's parent star, unthinkable, enjoy your drift through the void you little ball of ice.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
- Location
- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
On a separate, more interesting note, this doesn't change much when it comes to either our fate in Ranald, or the Sigmarites.
Both our gods were "known" as men who ascended to divinity by their respective deeds. Ranald is still by our side, still our partner and still as eager to do shenanigans. We've never held any delusions about divinity as omnipotence, so there's not much more to it than we now can speculate upon how Gods are made.
Both our gods were "known" as men who ascended to divinity by their respective deeds. Ranald is still by our side, still our partner and still as eager to do shenanigans. We've never held any delusions about divinity as omnipotence, so there's not much more to it than we now can speculate upon how Gods are made.
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- Location
- Under your bed
So
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Dragons are C'tan? 🤣
So what exactly is the human/Empire creation myth for humans then? Humans clearly existed before Sigmar.
- Location
- Somewhere, probably Earth
Mathilde: Well, that lasted me all of a couple days. Maybe I can stretch it out by arranging a trip to Calador.