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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
I like that idea. Yes.
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I'm very glad to hear that.

A big part of the reason that I got behind the push to create WEBMAT was because I legitimately adored the idea of Mathilde pushing for more cohesion between the Colleges in particular, and the forces of Order more generally.

When so many things IRL are falling apart due to critical shortsightedness and zero-sum thinking amongst various world powers, the idea of being someone with the ability to institutionally push back against those tendency is, to me, nearly as much of an escapist fantasy as the cool spells and kickass sword fighting.

It certainly doesn't hurt that as a collaboration between magical traditions, it comes packaged with with your stellar worldbuilding and an easy excuse to see all sorts of awesome mystical shenanigans scoured from across the breadth of the setting.

Mathilde getting personally involved in the creation of the airship would be Mathilde once again spearheading a major collaboration, just as she did with the Waystone Project, and with the Dum Expedition, and with K8P - a natural outgrowth of her characterization, rather than the non-sequitur it could otherwise so easily become.

So, given that clarification:
[X] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer
 
Gavin Prince said:
to use it, we'd need to spend an AP learning how to move in armour.
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Honest question, did i miss where this was said? I know boney said she'd have to learn to move in armor, but i'd been imagining that was more "dont expect it to go great if you get in a fight with your first action the first turn you have it"--i.e. that a turn or two of her background training and exercise regimen that doesn't reach the level of AP use would be enough
 
Abby Normal said:
Honest question, did i miss where this was said? I know boney said she'd have to learn to move in armor, but i'd been imagining that was more "dont expect it to go great if you get in a fight with your first action the first turn you have it"--i.e. that a turn or two of her background training and exercise regimen that doesn't reach the level of AP use would be enough
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Generally when boney tells the thread Mathilde has to do something, that means we will need to spend and action or a resource and actually do the thing. At least as far back as I can remember.
 
Alliterate said:
And somehow we even maneuvered him into insisting that we claim sole credit:
Boney said:
"You'll have to swear an oath not to pass it on."

"The information itself, that would be fine. But I want to be able to pass on anything I create derived from that."

"Would you be willing to claim it was entirely an independent creation?"

You barely manage to keep yourself from frowning. In the Colleges, you'd normally need to get someone at gunpoint to get them to give up academic credit. But for this, the Gold College would require it? "Yes. I would."
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Feldmann: "Bloody Grey Mages."
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Now you've got me wondering if Feldmann caught that barely stopped frown on Mathilde's face, and now he thinks she was barely keeping herself from smiling. One more point in his growing corkboard of conspiracy.
 
[X] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer
[X] Plan Pickle Requests mk IV
Okay, fine.

Alliterate said:
Now the thread is slowed a little, there were some reactions, and reactions to reaction posts I had:

Mathilde, packing Orbs and Waystone sales brochures: "Tch. Skill issue."

And somehow we even maneuvered him into insisting that we claim sole credit:

Feldmann: "Bloody Grey Mages."
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It's possible Feldmann is doing the opposite of nerdraging, and is instead really glad that he facilitated, even coincidentally, this huge breakthrough for the Colleges by putting Mathilde on the path towards this discovery. From his perspective, he offered Mathilde to name her price for a bunch of priceless skaven artifacts and she wanted the secret to Gehenna's Golden Hounds rather than incredible wealth or a powerful enchanted item. Mathilde then turned that payment into a repayment of immense value.

Which validates the entire concept of a major academic grant: Mathilde has proven herself to be a major driver of innovation and discovery for the Colleges, so a major boon to her pays dividends.

Kind of like Kragg seeing his rewards to Mathilde being immediately put to work slaying vampires, skaven, and greenskins, and saving the life of the one who would go on to save Karak Vlag. It's especially gratifying to see rewards or payments you give be invested into efforts you also really like.
 
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Redshirt Army said:
I'm very glad to hear that.

A big part of the reason that I got behind the push to create WEBMAT was because I legitimately adored the idea of Mathilde pushing for more cohesion between the Colleges in particular, and the forces of Order more generally.

When so many things IRL are falling apart due to critical shortsightedness and zero-sum thinking amongst various world powers, the idea of being someone with the ability to institutionally push back against those tendency is, to me, nearly as much of an escapist fantasy as the cool spells and kickass sword fighting.

It certainly doesn't hurt that as a collaboration between magical traditions, it comes packaged with with your stellar worldbuilding and an easy excuse to see all sorts of awesome mystical shenanigans scoured from across the breadth of the setting.

Mathilde getting personally involved in the creation of the airship would be Mathilde once again spearheading a major collaboration, just as she did with the Waystone Project, and with the Dum Expedition, and with K8P - a natural outgrowth of her characterization, rather than the non-sequitur it could otherwise so easily become.

So, given that clarification:
[X] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer
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So given the above I think we should do those barge stones next, for most they would just be part of the clean up, but our ship can be proof of concept to use them to power enchantments. That was always a secondary purpose of the Waystone project and it would allow us to put some very potent weapons on said ship.
 
[X] Dispensation to study methods of destroying or beneficially transforming Dhar. 'I have seen Dwarven Rune magic that can burn Dhar into nothing or smash it into aspectless rune power, Qhaysh that can unravel Dhar, and the slow transformation under specific circumstances of Dhar into aspectless Earthbound magic, but have been unable to study them lest I fall afoul of the Articles. I would wish to study these and similar things I encounter (though taking care to not impinge upon Dwarven Runepriest secrets) in order to develop a form of destruction or beneficial transformation of Dhar that the Colleges of Magic can use.'

[X] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer

[X] Dispensation to study methods of destroying or beneficially transforming Dhar
 
You know there is one wizard whose job we will make inherently harder. Some poor bastard has the job of explaining to baby Grey Wizards how they must labor in the shadows and they should not expect accolades or to acquire great wealth and power.
Apprentice: Magister whose Giant Flying Ship of Doom is that being built on the docks?
Teacher *though gritted teeth*: Lady Magister Weber should not be considered a typical example of a Grey Wizard. :V
 
DragonParadox said:
You know there is one wizard whose job we will make inherently harder. Some poor bastard has the job of explaining to baby Grey Wizards how they must labor in the shadows and they should not expect accolades or to acquire great wealth and power.
Apprentice: Magister whose Giant Flying Ship of Doom is that being built on the docks?
Teacher *though gritted teeth*: Lady Magister Weber should not be considered a typical example of a Grey Wizard. :V
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Teacher: "Or you can go and liberate/conquer half a province to the empire, if you want to."
 
[X] Plan: Next arc boon.
-[X] We have no current need for any of this. Bank it until the Waystone Project is over and we've decided on our next project.
 
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Ironically, making more orbs of sorcery is now not that gigantic a deal because we revealed how do it, so it should really be "your best bet is to figure out a nearly two-centuries-old magical mystery that tremendously advances the Colleges' understanding of magic".
 
I can imagine that the AV reveal is going to change how the colleges interact with Apparitions. Since they now have every reason to hunt them down, capture them and then begin milking them.

Which will likely cause more Apparition spells to become a thing as it is suddenly a lot easier for individual Magisters to get their hands on one...actually @Boney once the colleges start their AV milking infrastructure, would apparitions just become another thing available for College Favor? Since they'd already be catching them, so you are using the favor to snag one from the collection team.

I can imagine it being a case of either spending the time to do it ourselves or spending the favor on it.
 
Sinsystems said:
I can imagine that the AV reveal is going to change how the colleges interact with Apparitions. Since they now have every reason to hunt them down, capture them and then begin milking them.

Which will likely cause more Apparition spells to become a thing as it is suddenly a lot easier for individual Magisters to get their hands on one...actually @Boney once the colleges start their AV milking infrastructure, would apparitions just become another thing available for College Favor? Since they'd already be catching them, so you are using the favor to snag one from the collection team.

I can imagine it being a case of either spending the time to do it ourselves or spending the favor on it.
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There is also the question of how milking one before you staple one to your soul would affect the process and results. Science!
 
Sinsystems said:
I can imagine that the AV reveal is going to change how the colleges interact with Apparitions. Since they now have every reason to hunt them down, capture them and then begin milking them.

Which will likely cause more Apparition spells to become a thing as it is suddenly a lot easier for individual Magisters to get their hands on one...actually @Boney once the colleges start their AV milking infrastructure, would apparitions just become another thing available for College Favor? Since they'd already be catching them, so you are using the favor to snag one from the collection team.

I can imagine it being a case of either spending the time to do it ourselves or spending the favor on it.
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You're making a lot of assumptions about what that eventual infrastructure would look like. Wait until they actually exist and you'll be in a better place to evaluate whether there's any side benefits you could tap into.
 
"Today is the first I'm hearing about any of it," Algard replies, turning from his Orb to coolly return Dragomas' scrutinizing look. After a moment, Dragomas nods in acceptance. But despite Algard's vouching for you, you're quite confident there's going to be an intimate encounter with a Daemon-checking orb in your immediate future.
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So… how do you think it went.

Personally I think he put the demon checker in her soup at lunch, so it blow up in her face.
 
Parabola said:
Ironically, making more orbs of sorcery is now not that gigantic a deal because we revealed how do it, so it should really be "your best bet is to figure out a nearly two-centuries-old magical mystery that tremendously advances the Colleges' understanding of magic".
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The next big advancement is the person who invents the reliable Apparition trap. Right now we have solved the problem of Orbs of Sorcery being impossible to make. Now we just have the problem that Orb of Sorcery manufacturing machines are impossible to make.

And honestly making an apparition trap is an entirely more solvable problem. I expect the Gold College to have knocked one out within the decade. It's worth too much money to do otherwise.
 
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