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There are also Saints that are dead people who are worshipped as intermediaries to the gods they served in life.

And Sigmar was reverred as a saint of Ulric before have a Cult established worshipping him as a god in his own right.
In five centuries Mathilde is going to be worshipped as a Venerated Soul of the Cult of Sigmar. :V

Although the difference between small god and big spirit is more nomenclature, and Kislev for example draws out differently. I think one of the updates with Baba mentions that as an aside.
Here it is if anyone wanted to look, it's in the second half.
 
Altdorf, you learn, is in mourning; the Empress is dead and her unborn son with her, leaving the Emperor without issue and his brother remaining next in line for the throne.
How was it known to be a son?

Yep.

This is kind of tipping my hand early, but for the library purchase round this turn, since we're not in need of anything in particular I wanted to advocate for doing a Barak Varr for Tylos/Strygos/something, because I actually am really interested in doing the Tylosian coin book and seeing what we can learn about the Warden who became the Horned Rat.
Isn't the plan to save up for elfcation?
 
Eike MAY be able to "do a theogenesis" in the sense of identifying a Big Spirit with the potential to become a Small God and pushing the process along.

Yeah, and the logical place to start is somewhere around Stirland or Sylvania, where conditions for the genesis and survival of 'small' gods (Bylorak, Manhorak/Manhavok) are already proven. She'd have to choose a suitable spirit, of course...

Oh wait, did you ever hear about this one local legend in the Hunter's Hills? They use figurines of her as protective charms against the Undead. A good start! I'm sure you'll do a great job as a deity, dammerwhatever!
 
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On the distinction between spirits and gods, it might be like Japanese kami, the west traditionally translates it as either god or spirit depending on the context but in the original language there is no distinction, there's obviously a difference between some minor kami and Amaterasu, kami of the sun and from whom all Japanese Emperors claimed descent from and thus their divine right to rule, but it was mainly a difference of scale not of kind, there was a gradient of kami from weak to powerful and no threshold beyond which you started treating them in a distinctly different manner from greater or lesser kami, just a gradual shift of how you treated them stretched out along the entire spectrum. That manner of treating spiritual entities may be a more accurate model than the Old World's traditional distinction between spirits and gods, there may be no phase transition, no sudden shift, just a gradual change from small spirit to enormous spirit and the largest ones are labeled gods but where one draws the line is considered arbitrary, like how would consider a few sand grains as not a heap while acknowledging that an enormous pile of sand is clearly a heap but the line of when an amount of sand is enough to qualify as a "heap" is a difficult and ultimately arbitrary philosophical distinction.
 
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Surgery was done to try to save at least one life. It wasn't successful.
Why has Heidi only had one child with Luitpold? Given the dangers present in the world, having only one child to guarantee a line of succession feels...jarring.

Even if the child being the next emperor wasn't a goal, the succession of Reikland is by definition one of the concerns Luitpold faces.
 
Why has Heidi only had one child with Luitpold? Given the dangers present in the world, having only one child to guarantee a line of succession feels...jarring.

Even if the child being the next emperor wasn't a goal, the succession of Reikland is by definition one of the concerns Luitpold faces.

I imagine Heidi is probably pretty cool with just one kid and doesn't want more.

As for succession, there's probably brothers, cousins, etc. of Luitpold who would be behind Mandred in terms of inheriting.
 
Why has Heidi only had one child with Luitpold? Given the dangers present in the world, having only one child to guarantee a line of succession feels...jarring.

Even if the child being the next emperor wasn't a goal, the succession of Reikland is by definition one of the concerns Luitpold faces.

This isn't Crusader Kings, there's no game over screen if the dynasty goes extinct. Consider, as if you have to explain to someone who's never heard of the concept, why a line of succession actually matters, and whether it matters more than all the other things a person can do, making sure to factor in that most of those other things don't involve months of inconvenience and a non-negligible chance of death.
 
some low rolls with a major impact
Not quite low rolls, but there's always the hilarious

"Over 50 mirror trap succeeds, under 50 mirror trap fails"
*rolls exactly 50*

edit: it was actually more hilarious than I remembered. It happened after multiple turns of hidden rolls of failure, then the first time the snake succeeds the relevant roll...

[I thought to myself, 'more than fifty, the snake is killed. Less than fifty, it is trapped alive.': 50. Schrodinger's Snake achieved.]
 
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Why has Heidi only had one child with Luitpold? Given the dangers present in the world, having only one child to guarantee a line of succession feels...jarring.

Even if the child being the next emperor wasn't a goal, the succession of Reikland is by definition one of the concerns Luitpold faces.
One of Luitpold's few canon traits is being overprotective of his family, which can only have gotten worse after losing his first wife and child. And Heidi being Heidi, she's assuredly taken full advantage of this to wrap him around her finger, so any such decisions are almost certainly going to be up to her.
 
White Dwarf 152 page 67, from all the way back in 1992, has a neat Khazalid translation:
KRANGAL OGGRAZDRENGI RIKK KARAZAKARAK GORMGROMGROMTHI GNOLLENGROM ORI VARRKHULG ZAGAZ
This translates as:
Krangal Ogre slayer King of Karaz a Karak, The wise, The brave, Ancestor. Look upon his works Ye mighty enemy chiefs and remember!
'Gnollengrom' is noted specifically to mean 'Respect for a Dwarf who has a longer and more splendid beard', but it seems it can be used in more flexible ways. It also seems we have a dwarf equivalent to "Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair".

I should note that the age of this magazine does show in the Khazalid depicted here compared to how it's depicted later. It seems that little words like 'he' and 'and' didn't exist yet, and in the Khazalid list you also have words like 'Aruzhkhul' meaning 'The art of stalking Goblins in caves', whereas now the word used for that is 'grobkul'. 'oggrazdrengi' would now be 'ogridrengi' or 'ogrendrengi'.

Here we also have 'ang' meaning 'industrial work', where later it meant 'ironwork, industrial work'. Nowadays it seems that writers translate it as 'iron', using it in words like 'angthragor' (ironbreaker) and 'angazuf' (sky iron), and 'angaz' as 'ironwork' (DPG).

I'm wondering if 'Karaz-a-Karak' is an artefact that doesn't fit with modern Khazalid rules. It's a very old word, so maybe it got carried onward by inertia rather than merit.
 
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Heidi is a busy woman, and having a kid is a big time commitment even with a full support staff
I mean, yeah, but having kids with the Emperor is kind of her big gambit currently. Hence why she decided to have a kid in the first place.

You concentrate and shape Ulgu into lenses in a slight modification of the spell you use for solar forges, and the walls suddenly seems a great deal closer as the light is refracted. Ignoring a curious Maximilian looking over your shoulder you examine the battlements.
Mathilde makes such frequent and good use of tool-free enchanting magic for the magnification lenses alone that it's a wonder that magic isn't codified into a spell in its own right.

Frankly, the ability to create variable-size-and-zoom magnifying lenses in the air anywhere is so useful to spies, scouts, saboteurs, and assassins that it really should be in the standard Grey College curriculum.
 
I mean, yeah, but having kids with the Emperor is kind of her big gambit currently. Hence why she decided to have a kid in the first place.
He big gambit was having a child blessed by Ranald and whose luck was manipulated to make him an ideal Ranaldian Emperor. That plan probably won't end up working out because of the whole Wizard thing(though secretly Ranaldian Elector-Count is probably still on the table), but even without that any future children she might have won't be similarly blessed by Ranald and are not needed for her main gambit.
 
He big gambit was having a child blessed by Ranald and whose luck was manipulated to make him an ideal Ranaldian Emperor. That plan probably won't end up working out because of the whole Wizard thing(though secretly Ranaldian Elector-Count is probably still on the table), but even without that any future children she might have won't be similarly blessed by Ranald and are not needed for her main gambit.
Its a little bit bigger than just a singular Ranaldian Elector-Count. If Manndred has kids then they'll likely also be Ranaldites, and given Heldi's slow aging, she will likely be the Matriarch of the Holswig-Schliestein house for the foreseeable future after Luitpold dies. Playing her cards right she could get multiple Ranaldite emperors into the future, especially if interhouse marriages happen. Basically if we assume that the world isn't going to end in 30 years, then Ranald has made a long term play that may result in him becoming a majorly recognized and legal god of the empire.

The biggest concern is it coming out, but even then that's kind of unlikely. The witch hunters might notice, but they would burn a lot of goodwill by bringing it up and it's not technically a crime to be a Ranaldite, which means they burn that goodwill for nothing. It's honestly a really clever gambit on Ranald's part, because if he gets stuck in, its really hard to get him out unlike a chaos god or more vicious cult.
 
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That is odd, that's not the kind of simple fat finger typo you can get by accidentally hitting a wrong button nearby key, in both QWERTY and Dvorak I an R are distant from each other. Could it be a plural or a singular thing? Are the uses of Dawongi and Dawongr used in contexts which imply using those words to describe different numbers of people?
The biggest concern is it coming out, but even then that's kind of unlikely. The witch hunters might notice, but they would burn a lot of goodwill by bringing it up and it's not technically a crime to be a Ranaldite, which means they burn that goodwill for nothing. It's honestly a really clever gambit on Ranald's part, because if he gets stuck in, its really hard to get him out unlike a chaos god or more vicious cult.
I think Ranald used part of the energy from the Mugging of Mork to either create a permanent altered luck effect to keep people from discovering Heidi's and Mandred's connection to Ranald or has saved some of the energy to continuously spend it to make sure via luck manipulation that no events that could lead to that discovery ever happens.
 
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That is odd, that's not the kind of simple fat finger typo you can get by accidentally hitting a wrong button nearby key, in both QWERTY and Dvorak I an R are distant from each other. Could it be a plural or a singular thing? Are the uses of Dawongi and Dawongr used in contexts which imply using those words to describe different numbers of people?
-i covers singular and plural. I think this is just a plain mistake, or possibly an artefact from an even older version of Warhammer. Khazalid started getting codified at least as far back as 1992, ten years before Stone and Steel, so may be a lack of harmonised editing: one writer was using the old version, while another writer was making an updated version.
 
-i covers singular and plural. I think this is just a plain mistake, or possibly an artefact from an even older version of Warhammer. Khazalid started getting codified at least as far back as 1992, ten years before Stone and Steel, so may be a lack of harmonised editing: one writer was using the old version, while another writer was making an updated version.
On the other hand, it is just honestly true that sometimes words don't follow standard conventions.
 
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