Also, it wouldn't work for anyone except a Grey mage, and any runesmith worth their salt would probably notice it anyway. Familiars are saturated with the wind their magister uses, after all.
Yes, I looked at it:
It doesn't say what five/ten/fifteen favours actually accomplish, beyond "effort" presumably.
It would be a shame if that were all the Colleges have. I would be surprised if it were, but it's possible. (Though actually, the Earthquake one could feasibly wreck a Skaven stronghold, so learning that one might be worth it.) Even so, I would like to learn ritual magic anyway, because I genuinely think if we ever want to achieve the top tier Cool StuffTM that gets mentioned in the thread as future achievements of Mathilde, they will necessarily require rituals.
35/40 favours depending on whether we splurge and give the Ambers one too. Which is expensive, but we don't really have anything else we can spend it on except maybe runing our guns. What else can we even use it for at this point?
Well we could also acquire the services of grandmaster engineered to reverse engineer the steam tanks for further production, thought that probably runs into guild secrets. Not insurmountable, but it'd take some doing.
Did we ever actually get confirmation that they'd do that? It's the Empire's technology, but it rather strikes me as the sort of thing they'd refuse to do on the grounds that if Nuln can't manage it themselves, they aren't good enough for the knowledge, in that dwarfy way.
No, you're considering that because you think it keeps accruing. In truth, we haven't earned any amount of dwarf favour in multiple in-game years. We won't get any more until at least the next war, and that's not happening until at least years in the future, after the Okral leaves. And if you're talking about runesmith favour (which you weren't, because you said "keep" accruing), we don't know how much favour we're gonna get, but it's highly unlikely gonna be enough for it to ever be worth spending 15 favours on runing a gun, especially when magic gives better results in total and per point of favour.
We have been told that the Runesmiths will give us lots of favour for AV, which accrues passively. We won't be handing over all of it, but I fully expect the thread to decide to send a barrel every few turns.
I love how many people are doing 'I cant look at this thread at the moment' or 'I need a break, this is to contentious' or just 'I hate politics.'
while I'm just here going: 🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿
this is the shit I joined the thread for, I live off of it, old school Divided Loyalties politics are back bitchs.
Well dang, we should totally do that.
Runes or enchantments. We can't combine the two.
Those things mulch greater daemons, if I understand their stats correctly (which I might not). Manufacturing more of them does sound like an absolute win.
scared the shit out of me Skippy
Absolutely not. We have to take extremely serious oaths to never spread its knowledge and those oaths will conflict with the Articles if the Empire ever asks for them. Just a few votes ago we had issues with keeping dwarf secrets from the Empire. We should minimise as much as possible any oath conflicts. Breaking the Articles of Magic and breaking oaths made to dwarves are things we should avoid at all cost.
Even more importantly, those oaths would also bind all discoveries we make with the knowledge; if we use Arcane Dwarf for anything, we can't ever share it.
I rather doubt the Empire would ask us something like that, especially if we don't tell anybody that we actually learned. Unless, you know, someone really wants to go to war with the dwarves over a religious secret that isn't even really useful unless you're actively dealing with Dwarven Runes, and can't get a runesmith to help.
Not really. This is Craft Secrets which the Empire has no reason to demand and we're still allowed to teach apprentices under the same oath. For subsidiary discoveries it depends on their nature, since it COULD simply have an appendix reference to seek runesmith tutoring for those who want primary sources, but generally the internal College network wouldn't find that a problem - we could write about necromancy derived insights without letting out a peep on Necromancy itself.
It still pales in comparison to ours, if I recall. Like, he can't even see the other Winds, just see Chamon really well.
It doesn't matter what you think the Empire has reason or not to do. It's a shit decision to intentionally put ourselves in a position where we have to even be theoretically willing to break an oath.
The problem is that we don't actually have access to Anoqeyan, which would require getting entrance to the White Tower of Hoeth, since that's the only place it's still spoken, but we could get Arcane dearf right now. Also, your point about them being equally close works in the reverse, except Arcane Khazalid is actually immediately relevant to dealing with Bok.
