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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
Freyda will almost assuredly get the Northern Kings to agree to her proposal and with good odds of them agreeing to ideas she considered outside her reach before. You'd be throwing your weight around in this manner, and it will show. With Silverbrand in Ornsmotek there's sure to be pushback there because of it. Gain +2 Standing with the Cult of Valaya. Unlocks Options. Cost: [70 Favours from Kraka Ornsmotek, 50 Favours from Kraka Dorden, and Ravnsvake, 30 Favours with Kraka Drakk]

[X] A band of Runesmiths muttering to each other at levels they think are quiet.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.

[X] The Vanguard. Where you're arguably your most effective. Also where Vragni has been putting himself for several decades now. Is it worth the potential headache?
 
[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
[X] Let them come to you. Random Encounter.
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
 
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I still think we are going way too far, so it seems entirely reasonable to me for Vragni to be disgusted at how radical Snorri has become.
 
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] A band of Runesmiths muttering to each other at levels they think are quiet.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.

Snorri shouldn't cut off options without considering them. He's suffered loss, but he's still alive, and that means he should stay fully alive, not let parts of himself die.
 
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[X] [Line:] In general. There has only been one, and with Valaya as your witness, there will only ever be one. From the moment you wed you belonged to each other, and not even death would have you break that oath.
 
I got so worked up I forgot to add the rest of my vote, so;

[X] [Support:] Partially Support the proposal.
[X] The Vanguard.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] A band of Runesmiths muttering to each other at levels they think are quiet.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.

Choosing vanguard. No retreat, no surrender! Vragni will rue the day he decided to be a petty dickhead in front of both our apprentices!
 
Vote ends in 2 hours. It appears the only real contention is the support vote. A bit earlier than I usually end things but it seems pretty locked in otherwise.

Adhoc vote count started by soulcake on May 31, 2022 at 5:49 PM, finished with 335 posts and 196 votes.
 
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
Freyda will almost assuredly get the Northern Kings to agree to her proposal and with good odds of them agreeing to ideas she considered outside her reach before. You'd be throwing your weight around in this manner, and it will show. With Silverbrand in Ornsmotek there's sure to be pushback there because of it. Gain +2 Standing with the Cult of Valaya. Unlocks Options. Cost: [70 Favours from Kraka Ornsmotek, 50 Favours from Kraka Dorden, and Ravnsvake, 30 Favours with Kraka Drakk]
 
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
[X] [Line:] In general. There has only been one, and with Valaya as your witness, there will only ever be one. From the moment you wed you belonged to each other, and not even death would have you break that oath.
 
Gotta say, I really like Vragni. It's just... I dunno, nice? Yeah, it's just nice to have someone criticise how we're doing mass-production of runic gear, rather than complaining that it shouldn't be done at all.
 
[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Partially Support the proposal.
Freyda will likely see her proposal agreed to, but anything beyond the minimum will be on her and her alone. Your word carries weight, and you suppose this is as good a use for it as any. Gain +1 Standing with the Cult of Valaya. Unlocks Options. Cost: [30 Favours from Kraka Dorden, Ornsmotek and Ravnsvake, 10 Favours with Kraka Drakk]
 
[X] [Support:] Partially Support the proposal.
[X] The Vanguard.
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
 
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[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.

Swapping to full support. Better to settle Norsca quickly to provide coverage/defence for Waystones in the region, and stop the gribblies from creeping back in after the campaign. A Norsca full of dwarfholds quickly turns into an impenetrable bastion against the chaotic hordes that come in from the wastes, rather than being a permanent shelter for them.
 
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[X] The Statue. You're fairly sure that being around the big Rune statue with your equipment will only improve its capabilities.
[X] A messenger from Kraka Krum, bearing a letter with the seal of Ogra Wardmaker.
[X] Brynna has been meaning to ask about the eye.
[X] [Line:] Being forced. Do you have it in you to open your heart again? Maybe. It may never come to pass and you may never actually meet anyone who you would even consider being romantic with, but you wouldn't dismiss the idea if it ever did happen.
[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
 
It's been so long that I'll be able to have fun refamiliarizing myself with our newfound combat abilities.

Anyway think I'll change to Fully Support. Some gaffe is worth it to protect the Waystones. We've always been more on what helps than what is easier ti swallow.
 
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[X] [Support:] Fully Support the proposal.
[X] [Line:] In general. There has only been one, and with Valaya as your witness, there will only ever be one. From the moment you wed you belonged to each other, and not even death would have you break that oath.
 
You are a vegan, you generally don't give a hoot about what someone thinks or does and you largely keep to yourself unless asked specifically about it but you have very strong opinions when pushed.

Snorri is essentially a meat-loving obligate carnivore constantly having barbeques and offering meat to everyone around you and being especially flamboyant about it and you live right next to his house. All in all, it's not enough to kill him over but it certainly grates when he's going around everywhere with "eat meat," stickers and yelling to the world that he loves the taste of animal flesh.

Also the smell of his barbeques wafts from his house to yours frequently due to prevailing winds.

It's not an entirely accurate summation of the situation and heavily favours Vragni's POV, but suffice it to say that Snorri is pressing a lot of Vragni's annoyance buttons very hard and very frequently.
As a Texan, I am completely on the side of the meat-loving obligate carnivore for this argument. But I do respect Vegans and there life choices, though I can't fully sympathize as I can't smell anything at all.

Admittedly as a Texan if the reverse of this situation occurred. I wouldn't be surprised if the carnivore came to blows with the Vegan. Or at the very least have his pet cow make a pie on the Vegan's front lawn.
 
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