Maybe the only way to stop being so controlling would be for the Thread to stop trying to control Sabrina, letting her autopilot from here on out. :V
 
Keep in mind that if you misinterpret your wish, you might not actually get all of your powers. Oriko needed an epiphany to get her lasers, as an example.

Understanding yourself isn't exactly easy, and it isn't something you can figure out by spending a few hours dicking around with sonic showers, lasers, or rocket-powered chainsaw-hammers.

*Shrugs*

We've had whole essays written about Sabrina, including long debates spanning tens of pages about what is and isn't out of character. Dozens of people have spent literal years invested in her mindstate.

If that didn't trigger an epiphany, nothing will - we are Sabrina's mindstate, so unless we, the thread, have a paradigm shift in how we see Sabrina, she won't have a breakthrough herself.
 
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*Shrugs*

We've had whole essays written about Sabrina, including long debates spanning tens of pages about what is and isn't out of character.

If that didn't trigger an epiphany, nothing will - we are Sabrina's mindstate, so unless we, the thread, have a paradigm shift in how we see Sabrina, she won't have a breakthrough herself.

While my last post was a joke it probably would have to be a shift in how we actually vote and not just some clever theory.
 
Understanding yourself isn't exactly easy, and it isn't something you can figure out by spending a few hours dicking around with sonic showers, lasers, or rocket-powered chainsaw-hammers.
Which is not to say doing that necessarily gets in the way of the path of self discovery and enlightenment but it is probably a distraction.
 
You huff in amusement, arms still draped around Mami from behind. She bumps her head gently against your cheek. The smile on your face matches hers, really.

"So, a chibi-me," you muse. "Iiiiiit might be kind of Witchy."

Mami's smile fades for a moment, but only a moment. "It's alright, Sabrina," she reassures you. "I'm getting used to it. It's... if I concentrate on how it feels, I know it's you, not a Witch, so it's alright."
Did we ever ask Mami to describe the difference? If not, we might look to do so? Because that implies it's not just sensing active grief, but sensing something about the grief.
 
Took a long break from this story (I left off right as the clear seed got stolen) but now I'm back! It's nice to see how the story has gone on since I had left.
 
"May I try the other gun?" Homura asks, gesturing at said rifle.

"Ah?" Mami glances at Homura, then you. At your nod of affirmation, she beams at Homura. "Of course, Homura! Let me load that for you..." She flicks her hand, palm out, at the gun.

Homura picks the rifle, weighing it in her hands as she steps up beside Mami. Without any ceremony, without even shouldering it, she empties the cylinder. The long thunderclap echoes around the junkyard as Homura lowers the gun, almost looking smug.
...we should try to have Mami make munitions for Homura to store in her inventory.
"Right!" Mami agrees, smiling. She checks the bench behind her and sits, patting the seat behind her and glancing at you. "However, I've found that the further you deviate from the, ah, existing theme, the less... instinctual it becomes to use."
"Gotcha," you say. "I'm going to keep trying to learn that prescience trick, if you think that's OK?"

"Go ahead," she responds. "Though... I have to admit, it took me a very long time to learn it, myself."
*facepalms*

No wonder Mami is able to develop combat prescience. She wished to live, so it makes sense that she would be able to develop mild ESP relating to mortal danger.
"Well, shit," Sayaka hisses between her teeth. "So... what, it's going to... pull everyone into its Barrier?"

"It doesn't have a Barrier," Homura says. She isn't looking at you, nor at Sayaka. Not at anyone, really. "It manifests in the real world. When it does... it will destroy Mitakihara."

Sayaka pales. "I... I see," she says. "And we're..." Something seems to click inside her mind, cerulean blue eyes snapping to Homura. "That's why you're here, aren't you? You're here to fight it."

You can feel the pressure Homura puts on the bench as her hands tighten.

"In a manner of speaking," you answer for Homura.

Sayaka squeezes her eyes shut, rubbing at them with her gloved knuckles. "You should have said so," she mutters. "We're going to fight it?"

Mami nods firmly. "Walpurgisnacht is a threat to everyone in this city," she says. "Of course we're going to fight it."

"Alright," Sayaka says, opening her eyes. "What do we have to do?" She manages a grin at Homura. "Orders, Captain Ahab?"

...

She's not completely wrong. She has the good sense to not ask Homura what she lost, in any case.
You know, between this, Sayaka's insight about Homura being weirdly protective of Madoka, and her knowing that Homura's magic is time-related, it really would not take much for her to connect the dots. Especially with Homura's seemingly-inexplicable hatred of Oriko and Kirika.
 
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You know, between this, Sayaka's insight about Homura being weirdly protective of Madoka, and her knowing that Homura's magic is time-related, it really would not take much for her to connect the dots. Especially with Homura's seemingly-inexplicable hatred of Oriko and Kirika.

Literally all it would take is her realizing/being told "Homura can do more than just stop time."
 
Actually, reading over the vote, I'm not seeing anything in there that actually addresses that Sayaka is close to figuring things out. That seems like a pretty glaring oversight, especially when we could be talking to Homura about how she wants to handle the possibility of Sayaka figuring things out on her own.
 
I expect us to have a similarly nauseous reaction when we meet other grief controllers for the first time.

I'll be voting to keep a tight grip on our emotions and control when we meet Nodoka, for example, lest we instinctively rip away all her grief to make wings before we get a hold of ourselves.
I wonder, would other grief controllers also have the same problem as we do? If so, we should warn Hatsumi Nodoka that she might experience nausea and an instinctive desire for control when our grief gets in her range.
Depends on the wording of their individual wishes, I'd imagine. Not every grief mages wishes to control grief; some might want to take it away, or redistribute it.
Barf bags and Hugs for everyone.
Before we get into YAHS, something to point out, perhaps as the most important point:

So far our canvas of other Grief control powers mentions no other girl with any projection functionality. Sabrina works to a scale, or perhaps method, unlike the others. The sort of conflict under discussion therefore is literally not possible? This might be one of our possible answers.

Nodoka moves Grief from Gem to Gem, maybe in and out of Grief Seeds if she is more generalized. In order to set off our (W)issues, she would have to be able to hold Grief outside of a soul, or at least release it from containers / control. Is there any support for this as the truth? When a cleansing of the traditional sort, from Soul Gem to Grief seed takes place in our range, how does it feel? All of Nodoka's Grief should be inside someone, or herself, except during transit.

Would we make her nauseous? The better question is likely "what does Nodoka feel inside a barrier? Or when our power goes active in her range?" Nothing? Grand Mal seizures?
We would be best to find a way to get along well. If she has any perception powers, her ability is already valuable to our agenda. If not, we will change her life for the better another way.

In a more general sense, I would like to think about a society where formal introductions are possible, and it becomes a normal point of etiquette to state one's wish. It is bond of trust, and equally a gesture of disarmament, exactly analogous to a handshake - applied to Puella Magi. It is a step towards reducing combat encounters. Related?
https://www.history.com/news/what-is-the-origin-of-the-handshake

*Yet Another Highlander Scenario

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I would be entirely unsurprised if it clicked at any given moment.
If all Sayaka has in her life is gossip, Homura will likely give away all the clues, leaving Sayaka to decode them at leisure. That is not true, fortunately. The more time Sayaka spends on her individual concerns, or helping her friends, the less that will happen. Once she encounters the Witchbomb, there will also be a pause where discovery can't be expected. Ultimately, I'll say you have odds trending to 100% over the next 30 days.
Partial agreement.

Actually, reading over the vote, I'm not seeing anything in there that actually addresses that Sayaka is close to figuring things out. That seems like a pretty glaring oversight, especially when we could be talking to Homura about how she wants to handle the possibility of Sayaka figuring things out on her own.

If we put the talk in a context of "At her current rate, we expect Sayaka will be able to guess parts of your past sometime in May. She won't hurt you, her friend." I think we have done the best for Homura. We have made the possibility visible, but not as threatening. I don't think she has a rational notion of life past the battle. We want to get her to develop that capacity, so her rebound is less.
 
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Actually, reading over the vote, I'm not seeing anything in there that actually addresses that Sayaka is close to figuring things out. That seems like a pretty glaring oversight, especially when we could be talking to Homura about how she wants to handle the possibility of Sayaka figuring things out on her own.
That's because until just now, I hadn't realized just how much of the puzzle Sayaka had the pieces for already. I know that Firn has already written up a lot of the update, and I kinda don't want to be a dick and force a bunch of rewriting... and it would be adding another big topic. :\

But the update does end at a point where we could conceivably handle that next update, maybe?

@Firnagzen
If we're going to point out to Homura just how close Sayaka is to figuring it out, would it fit better into the flow of the story for it to be handled now, or next update?
 
You sit up and wave your hands, almost on instinct. The motion draws Homura's glare from Mami to you, and you hold your hands up, meeting her eyes with what you hope is an open appeal on your face.

"It would be great to have both of you along to meet Bennouna, if you want to come," you say, still holding Homura's gaze. You're not quite staring her down - but you're trying to convey your reassurance. It'll be OK. "It should be safe. But."

You turn to Madoka. "Maybe when peace has settled in?" you say. "When the trips become... mmm, routine. Right now, we don't know for sure what these girls are like, or how it'll go."

Madoka nods tremulously. "O-ok," she says. "Um... will you be alright?"
...yeah, it really hasn't been subtle, yeesh.
 
No wonder Mami is able to develop combat prescience. She wished to live, so it makes sense that she would be able to develop mild ESP relating to mortal danger.
Well, Mami can already swing from ribbons across buildings. All she needs is a Spiderman costume.
...we should try to have Mami make munitions for Homura to store in her inventory.
Does stuff Mami makes have an expiration date or a "in contact with" range? Wouldn't be very helpful if Homura can't use the ammo when she goes across town.
 
Well, Mami can already swing from ribbons across buildings. All she needs is a Spiderman costume.

Does stuff Mami makes have an expiration date or a "in contact with" range? Wouldn't be very helpful if Homura can't use the ammo when she goes across town.

She has an expiration date on her ribbons, as she says 30 minutes after the Sendai battle. However, one of the theories about Homura's shield is that what she puts in spends no time before she takes it out, as evidenced by the boiling water that she took out of her shield.

Really it depends on the exact mechanics of how both magics interact and there's no harm bringing it up to Homura some time as a potential way to increase her firepower.
 
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I wonder if she could fit the Tiro Finale artillery thing from Rebellion in her shield?

In our trip to Vladivostok (still convinced Cherno is going to come after us sooner or later for that), Mom said that she wanted the missile trucks, but couldn't fit them into her shield. I'm taking this to mean "couldn't squeeze them through the entrance, given her storage space seems otherwise infinite. Sadly, this means no Homus carting around Tiro Finales, or jacking entire fleets, unless we get creative.

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"Do you think you could fly something heavy back?" she asks.

"Yeah?" you say, raising an eyebrow. "Got something in mind?"

"Missile launcher truck," Homura says. "Won't fit into my shield."
Nova Prospekt, Pt 3

EDIT: Uh. @Newix? Please tell me I didn't hallucinate you question.
 
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