Hmmm. I vaguely remember something about Sabrina's speech being extremely crisp and with unusually precise diction - which can give off the impression that she's had private elocution lessons and is very wealthy.

But I can't find a citation for that. I think it might have come up during @Godwinson 's worm crossover? Can anyone confirm if that's actually a thing, or did I imagine it?

Yeah, that was a thing. I was asking after Sabrina's accent, or lack thereof. Here's my post, and Godwinson's response:

Random thought. What sort of accent does Sabrina have, if any? French? German? Japanese? English? American?
Generally speaking, she has whatever accent she chooses to have. By default, she's oddly precise in her enunciation, which can make some of her brain-damaged moments seem all the weirder for it.

When speaking English, she would probably have something akin to the General American accent, without any of the typical regional indicators, though a bit oddly crisp and clear, like a good telecaster, the sort who has taken a lot of elocution lessons. This would probably be taken to indicate a wealthier upbringing, or at least one where proper bearing and speech were important. Especially when this is combined with her complete self-assuredness, to someone who doesn't know her, especially when not dealing with other magical girls (such as everyone in PMAV), she probably has this faint air of being secretly really, really rich. Which, of course, makes her behavior stand out all the more.
 
really magical girls should be able to drink as much as they want without getting wasted, or they could decide to just get wasted after a single drink, due to us having perfect control over our own biological functions
Hmm. You know. I could totally see Homura being a long-lost relative of Bread-chan.
not quite sure of who breaks chan is?
...Not observably different from the thread's usual state of mind?
its likely that alcohol impairment would affect the chain of command in some ways, scrambling our decisions and making us see less from sabrinas point of view
Of course, Sabrina is a hammerer, rather than a hammeree..
we could always just hammer ourselves
 
really magical girls should be able to drink as much as they want without getting wasted, or they could decide to just get wasted after a single drink, due to us having perfect control over our own biological functions

not quite sure of who breaks chan is?

its likely that alcohol impairment would affect the chain of command in some ways, scrambling our decisions and making us see less from sabrinas point of view

we could always just hammer ourselves

Bread chan is the nickname for the player character of BAHHSCQ, a much beloved and infrequently updating quest on this site. She's a walking WMD who cannot into social, much like Homura.
 
Six years, actually; legal drinking age in Japan is 20. (Source: Almighty Google)

Emphasis on "legal". We already have soliciting forgery, grand larceny, vigilantism, assault, kidnapping, and international arms smuggling under our belts. What's a little underage drinking on top of all that?

Take Mami on a trip to her Shiny New Australia and it'll be 3/4 years. :V
 
Homura Akemi and Anna Sanchez would get on about as well as Francium and water.

Which is a shame because Anna has access to far greater firepower than Homura and time stop would be a genuinely useful thing that she can not do.
 
Homura Akemi and Anna Sanchez would get on about as well as Francium and water.

Which is a shame because Anna has access to far greater firepower than Homura and time stop would be a genuinely useful thing that she can not do.

Idk I think they'd get along fine. Homura would suggest that Anna shouldn't sacrifice herself, Anna would give her a weird look and eventually it'd be alright, albeit not really warm.
 
If we're being realistic, probably crying and blubbering.

Either that, or she forgets to turn on her liver, and now we have an increasingly confused Homura drinking everyone under the table.


I wonder what Drunk!Sabrina is like.
Urobuchi is not lacking? Then his antagonist was way ahead of this!
A body modified for greater combat ability is only the truth that is says... Would the Incubator want to allow his livestock to avoid harvest for years? Next, ask yourself if a Magical Girl might be physically unable to experience alcohol intoxication? After all, it is a poison. Chiaki would be a crash course in the horrors of magi under the influence.

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The intent is to ramp the stress level smoothly.

If the tea time works, very good idea. If the effect does not get Homura centered and able to do information tasks, we may need to truncate data-heavy topics?
Think on that as a conditional. It seems we made plenty of good emotional contact, and that comes with a cost for her. Maybe hang out and let her nap a bit? We can enchant some Grief, or some other low-narrative action at that time?
The intent is to show her the actions of proper care. Tea is a great start. If we may afford it as here, I think that is the will of a friend.

[] Cleanse as needed.
[] Homura has kettle of boiling water in her inventory, tea would be nice -- tea-timestop?
-[] You're going to keep making Homura proper food to put into her inventory, for herself and for others.
[] Continue to be thorough and patient. With infinite cleansing, you've given Homura time to process and relax.
[] About Homura
-[] We're friends and partners in this. Mami is your-- well, yours, but Homura is your best friend.
--[] Addressing Homura's self-esteem issues regarding our successes compared to her failures: having an additional perspective helps. To that end, you're going to start fully detailing other things like that to Homura in the future, so that you can get her perspective.
[] conditional, if Homura has recovered
--[] Information asymmetries: There are things your metaknowledge covers that Homura doesn't know, and things that Homura knows that you don't, information that can be vital.
---[ ] For example, you've been investigating soul gems and grief seeds, but while you know that a soul gem can move between loops, you don't know if a grief seed can -- a difference or a similarity can be important to know.
--[] Improved coordination: Too often you've just improvised, when you know Homura prefers planning. Indicate willingness to plan contingencies. Multitasking, hammerspace (Homura's inventory is hammertime?), timestop, grief(hax) all allow for extensive planning and safe documentation.
---[] Specifically, once you've arranged for the key allies Homura suggested, you'd like to start working on detailed plans for Walpurgisnacht.

---[] Arrange for non-telepathic signal(s) for time-stop in case of tense situations -- you'll could use grief to take hold of her right hand?
(More than one type of emergency signal is needed! Just as a start, what about Homura needing to cue us?)
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-[] Expand upon your explanation of Sayaka from this morning -- most of Sayaka's weaknesses normally become strengths when she decides to trust someone, when the cruelty of the Incubator's system is held at bay.
-[] This is a good thing here and now. Sayaka trusts you and Homura, knows that you know what's going on, and trusts both of you to have Madoka's best interests at heart. More than that, she's willing to help us keep Madoka well out of harms way.
-[] "Sayaka always is insightful about the weirdest stuff." Bring up her 'past life' joke from Homura's first day at school this/last loop.
-[] Bring up Sayaka figuring out Homura caring specifically about Madoka, as well as her trusting Homura. Explain what you told Sayaka.

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--[] When we trust, we are no longer isolated. Not isolating Sayaka let her survive.
--[] This is likely why Kyuubey keeps magic a secret, deliberately shaping events and his pitch to make it seem like a magical girl anime, because it's encouraging traits that lead to witch-outs.


[] Bring up how we're going about witchbombing Sayaka, how you can give her the motive for Kyuubey being so horrible. Point out her improved thoughtfulness this time around. If Sayaka decides to learn, it will give her even more reason to trust Homura's judgement -- she was trying to save them from a horrible fate, after all.
[] Remain in timestop to continue conversation onto other topics.

The intent is to foreshadow the topic of isolation also being dangerous to Madoka.

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Come to think of it, @Godwinson dropped that quest because they thought the 4d stuff magical girls can do would let Sabrina timeline hop. But it turns out the 4d stuff is just barrier bullshit, and not nearly as OP as thought.

I hope they take it back up again. I enjoyed more Sabrina.
 
Come to think of it, @Godwinson dropped that quest because they thought the 4d stuff magical girls can do would let Sabrina timeline hop. But it turns out the 4d stuff is just barrier bullshit, and not nearly as OP as thought.

I hope they take it back up again. I enjoyed more Sabrina.
No, IIRC they dropped the fic because Sabrina can multiply her Grief which in PMAS isn't that useful, but in Worm, it removes her ramp up time which allows her to be able to stomp most threats in Earth-bet.
 
Come to think of it, @Godwinson dropped that quest because they thought the 4d stuff magical girls can do would let Sabrina timeline hop. But it turns out the 4d stuff is just barrier bullshit, and not nearly as OP as thought.

I hope they take it back up again. I enjoyed more Sabrina.

While I heartily agree, wasn't the problem that the Banana-Turkey thing with effortlessly increasing the volume of Grief essentially gave Sabrina unlimited "ammo" / weapon, whereas that had been planned as a major limitation on her power early on (with only her own mild grief accumulation to draw on) ?

Of course, it would seem like the answer is to just not make that weird single detail canon to PMAV, since we basically said "Huh... not what I thought it would do" and moved on in PMAS, but I think Godwinson wanted to keep it as a plausibly canon future or something.
 
Hmmm. I vaguely remember something about Sabrina's speech being extremely crisp and with unusually precise diction - which can give off the impression that she's had private elocution lessons and is very wealthy.

But I can't find a citation for that. I think it might have come up during @Godwinson 's worm crossover? Can anyone confirm if that's actually a thing, or did I imagine it?
Yeah, that was a thing. I was asking after Sabrina's accent, or lack thereof. Here's my post, and Godwinson's response:
Yep, that's what I was thinking of. Thanks!
As a note, that statement is based on an aside that came up with @Firnagzen when I was talking to him about writing with Sabrina's "voice" and was then elaborated upon.
Come to think of it, @Godwinson dropped that quest because they thought the 4d stuff magical girls can do would let Sabrina timeline hop. But it turns out the 4d stuff is just barrier bullshit, and not nearly as OP as thought.

I hope they take it back up again. I enjoyed more Sabrina.
You remember incorrectly. I dropped PMAV because grief duplication rendered the one limitation that Sabrina had in that story utterly irrelevant, and because the basic nature of the story (that this is Sabrina from after the end of PMAS) caused serious issues with reconciling her discovering new aspects of her powers over here, which wouldn't ever stop being a thing.
No, IIRC they dropped the fic because Sabrina can multiply her Grief which in PMAS isn't that useful, but in Worm, it removes her ramp up time which allows her to be able to stomp most threats in Earth-bet.
And of course, I'm ninja'd.
While I heartily agree, wasn't the problem that the Banana-Turkey thing with effortlessly increasing the volume of Grief essentially gave Sabrina unlimited "ammo" / weapon, whereas that had been planned as a major limitation on her power early on (with only her own mild grief accumulation to draw on) ?

Of course, it would seem like the answer is to just not make that weird single detail canon to PMAV, since we basically said "Huh... not what I thought it would do" and moved on in PMAS, but I think Godwinson wanted to keep it as a plausibly canon future or something.
It being "Sabrina, but from after the end of PMAS" was a rather important part of the intended story. Yes, I now realize how bad of an idea it is to do that for a story that's not completed, when you care about accuracy.
 
Given Sabrina's current philosophy that 'It's about the people', I don't think that detail matters as much as it's being made out to be. Yeah, Sabrina can bring out a hell of a lot of power when she wants to but she also realizes that doing so can bring about significant and unpleasant consequences in the act.
 
It being "Sabrina, but from after the end of PMAS" was a rather important part of the intended story.
But making Grief multiplication not work would be the mildest retcon in the history of retcons, since we've never used it and in all probability never will.

I'm very sorry I know arguing with you won't bring it back but saying that makes me feel better.
 
Given Sabrina's current philosophy that 'It's about the people', I don't think that detail matters as much as it's being made out to be. Yeah, Sabrina can bring out a hell of a lot of power when she wants to but she also realizes that doing so can bring about significant and unpleasant consequences in the act.
Yes, which is true... except in a setting where almost everything that's wrong with it can be immediately addressed by punching out a collection of alien gods whose existences are why things are so shitty.
But making Grief multiplication not work would be the mildest retcon in the history of retcons, since we've never used it and in all probability never will.

I'm very sorry I know arguing with you won't bring it back but saying that makes me feel better.
Point in fact, with what I've learned since, no, it really wouldn't be a mild retcon.
 
Yes, I now realize how bad of an idea it is to do that for a story that's not completed, when you care about accuracy.

It being brought up in this thread made me go and read it. Fun story, much appreciated what you did write :smile:

and, being entirely theoretical here, does a possible post-PMAS Mami showing up in the main anime timeline sound fun to anyone else?
 
and, being entirely theoretical here, does a possible post-PMAS Mami showing up in the main anime timeline sound fun to anyone else?

Not sure how that would work. Would it be PMAS!Mami overwriting canon!Mami, or going against all the established rules of time travel and having our Mami be independent?1​ Not to mention, what's the mechanism? We know a "canon" timeline preceded our current one, but Homura can't take anyone back to the beginning of that, not without some serious SCIENCE.

Would it be anything like @Kaizuki's (sadly defunct) Mami Quest? Has a similar concept.

1​Granted, magic. It's not like the rules are important anyway. Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey, and all that.
 
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