Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

[Shadowhisker]

Perhaps we could also try some experiments with negative mass? Although, even if we did manage to create it, the gravity wouldn't be useful except in large quantities, in which case we'd also need to compress it with grief.

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Dude, I'd be happy with any sort of exotic physics experiments. Not only would it give us more options, in and out of combat, we'd get the satisfaction of pushing science to it's limit.

Granted, we'd be doing so by blatantly skull-fucking the laws of physics, but it's the principle of the thing.

Speaking of blatantly skull-fucking the laws of physics, can we try out matter generation the next SCIENCE session we have? Vebyast floated this idea about a thousand pages back, where we make photons out of bullshit via Prima Luce, slam them into each other, hope we get quarks, build atoms using those quarks, rinse and repeat. We could straight up make gold bars.

 

[Lord Chungus]

Speaking of SCIENCE!!! I mentioned a while back an idea I had for forcibly de-transforming megucas, right? If we come across a metuca who refuses to listen and stop doing dumbs, ala Akkiko or Ono, but who isn't lichbombed, de-gemming them would result in... Bad Things, to put it lightly.

 

[Onmur]

Speaking of SCIENCE!!! I mentioned a while back an idea I had for forcibly de-transforming megucas, right? If we come across a metuca who refuses to listen and stop doing dumbs, ala Akkiko or Ono, but who isn't lichbombed, de-gemming them would result in... Bad Things, to put it lightly.

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I think that comes down to 'having an I win button'.

Like, sure, if we could just point at a meguca and her lose the fight, that'd be really useful. They usually don't let us, though.

Maybe we could get some conceptual effects to improve our ability to take down meguca peacefully. We got antimagic which can be but into manacles, we just need a delivery method.

Time related magics would seem the most useful. Remember Aurora had that magic effect of lag? Can we reproduce it with Grief? I think we're supposed to be able to create any effect a Witch can make.

 

[The Phoenixian]

I know. We grab some metal, shape it into something that looks nuke like, paint it appropriately, and bam! We got a nuke!

If we ever actually need a nuclear explosion, we have multiple way to do so using magic. We can even shield ourselves from the blast completely.

Also, after people get used (and scared) to the idea of us having a nuke in our pocket, we can totally one day reveal the nuke is a fake, for shit and giggles.

Then the week after a nuclear explosion goes off in the middle of the ocean because we somehow got into a strange witch fight all the way in the middle of nowhere and for some reason nuking the whole place seemed like a nice, safe, good idea.

Everyone will come to fear the image of Sabrina and Mami snuggling. Fear that anyone might be foolish enough to interrupt the snuggles. Or worse, the kissing.

Of course, this is all Akiko's and Riona's shared persepective as they huddle up in meguca prison, whispering paranoia to each other in their very own self made hate echo chamber, and does not reflect the reality that everyone's actually shipping Sabrina and Mami on. : V



A war fought with hugs.


These remarks are being purloined liberated and reappropriated to the righteoust cause!

[X] Make sure you both take all the money this time.
[X] Ask Homura if she's got another mop. Debate the merits of being a calling card dropping anti-Yakuza vigilante.
[X] Thank Homura for the trip. Let her know how much you appreciate these moments. You're looking forward to next time.

[X] After the raid:

[X] Back to your friends.
-[X] 'Seriously' ask Sayaka if she stayed out of trouble all of the twenty seconds you were gone.
-[X] Hug Mami. Mention that you're approaching 400 hugs, and you'll have to throw a celebration once you reach 500.
-[X] Kiss Mami goodbye.

[X] Meet up with the Kures.
-[X] Tell O&K they're your friends.
-[X] Discuss Homura and the Potentialbomb.
--[X] How does it affect her?
---[X] Share thoughts without breaching Homura's privacy too much:
----[X] Guilt.
----[X] Losing faith in victory.
--[X] Is there any way to break it gently to her?
-[X] Make an enchanted Griefhax psychometer for The Feather at some point during the meeting.

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Been thinking more on the Feather and what exactly I'm intending here, and kinda thinking of redoing that vote. Because the core component is really more "Use enchanted griefhax to figure out what The Feather used to be part of." And from past failures, I think directly stating intent in the vote is just as important as the method.

As far as the methods themselves go...

Psychometry is a possible, but so is a tracking spell, and any method has advantages and disadvantages.

Psychometry may answer everything in one fell swoop, and only needs the object itself, but it also may not work at all.

A Dresden Files style tracking spell, turning the feather into a compass that points to its origin, on the other hand? Well, it certainly has our usual range limit problem, but on the other hand, one of thepotential targets we're looking to disprove is ourself, and the rest are various members of our friends. Absent an outside chance like Feathers being a crow controlled by Feathers!Sayaka, we're going to be close enough to all of them.

There may be other potential methods as well, but those two are what's in my head right now.

On a small side note, I do still think it may be worth it to spread our Yakuza robbing around, to spread out and blunt any potential response.

Related, alas, the stealthy part of me doesn't agree with dropping a calling card.

So with all that in mind, a few suggested changes:

[X] Ask Homura if she knows any Yakuza bases outside of Mitakihara.
[X] Make sure you both take all the money this time.
Ask Homura if she's got another mop. Debate the merits of being a calling card dropping anti-Yakuza vigilante.
[X] Thank Homura for the trip. Let her know how much you appreciate these moments. You're looking forward to next time.

[X] After the raid:

[X] Back to your friends.
-[X] 'Seriously' ask Sayaka if she stayed out of trouble all of the twenty seconds you were gone.
-[X] Hug Mami. Mention that you're approaching 400 hugs, and you'll have to throw a celebration once you reach 500.
-[X] Kiss Mami goodbye.

[X] Meet up with the Kures.
-[X] Tell O&K they're your friends.
-[X] Discuss Homura and the Potentialbomb.
--[X] How does it affect her?
---[X] Share thoughts without breaching Homura's privacy too much:
----[X] Guilt.
----[X] Losing faith in victory.
--[X] Is there any way to break it gently to her?
-[X] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out where and who The Feather came from.
--[X]Potential methods:
---[X] Psychometry, to construct a model of what it used to be part of or how it was made.
---[X] Detector, to find out where and when the originator is in our range.

 

[Onmur]

Ask Homura if she's got another mop. Debate the merits of being a calling card dropping anti-Yakuza vigilante.

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I is le sad.

-[X] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out what The Feather used to be part of.
--[x]Potential methods: psychometry, tracking compass.

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Random thought while thinking about the conceptual limits of Firn's prohibition on postcognition...

Would it be possible to show the feather to the birds and have Sayaka ask if they can track its source? Would that do anything?

Also, problem with making compasses, they would only work if the thing we want them to point towards were inside our range. At the time we try to make the compass, at that; the time we tried to make a compass to find Sasa, we didn't get a compass that would react in Sasa's presence, we straight up couldn't make it.

 

[Redshirt Army]

Time related magics would seem the most useful. Remember Aurora had that magic effect of lag? Can we reproduce it with Grief? I think we're supposed to be able to create any effect a Witch can make.

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That's a position I've strongly argued for in the past, but I don't think we've actually properly confirmed it through experimentation.

Still, time magics would very obviously be helpful - since our biggest restriction is our limited range, anything that lets move that range more quickly is effectively the same as an increased range for a lot of purposes.

Even if time magic doesn't work out, having enchantments/griefhax to improve our reaction speeds could provide a similar benefit, since with better reaction times we could presumably just have greater impulse with our grief wings.

 

[Onmur]

EDIT: BTW, we still got Sayaka's Grief Seed from that hunt yesterday, against the... water something Witch. We held onto it because Sayaka was a clone.

That's a position I've strongly argued for in the past, but I don't think we've actually properly confirmed it through experimentation.

Still, time magics would very obviously be helpful - since our biggest restriction is our limited range, anything that lets move that range more quickly is effectively the same as an increased range for a lot of purposes.

Even if time magic doesn't work out, having enchantments/griefhax to improve our reaction speeds could provide a similar benefit, since with better reaction times we could presumably just have greater impulse with our grief wings.

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If we can copy the lag effect, that basically means we can... sort of stop existing while at the same time still exist enough to do things...? It could be kind of hax, depending on how well it works.

But speed is generally the name of the game, yes...

 

[Redshirt Army]

Mami's ribbons have innate connection powers that work to extend our soul gem range, but I wonder if she could make a more active wish magic enchantment that would provide a more convenient extended range?

Soul snuggles are nice, but they aren't practical in a lot of scenarios, and a more fleshed out "signal repeater" enchantment should fall within Mami's domain.

The key enchantments I'd like to see us acquire are:

• (From Mami) Some sort of improved range. Maybe a signal repeater of some sort, maybe just a direct boost to connection range.
• (From Kirika) An antimagic enchantment with an on/off switch, tuned to whitelist our powers and the powers of the Mitakihara group.
• (From Homura) Some sort of shield enchantment for our Soul Gem.
• Some sort of boost to reaction times. Could be time based, or a more subtle mental-only effect.
• Something to improve steath and/or information gathering.

A lot of these would be useful for more than just us, too.

 

[Norad the Borad]

For those of you discussing anti-matter, can we not? Anti-matter is a terrible idea. Need I remind you of this?
WoF says anti-matter is a bad idea.

Also, nukes shouldn't be what we consider fun. Our friends should. Nukes imply that there will be a battle big enough to require them. Besides, we have enough firepower that we don't need them.

I do not intend to insult anyone, nor start a flamewar.

 

[memoryofglory]

I would like to raise a concern about discussing Homura with Oriko. It just feels kind of skeevy, even if we trust Oriko, Homura doesn't. She really wouldn't like us discussing things that could emotionally break her with one of her greatest potential threats.

 

[Onmur]

I would like to raise a concern about discussing Homura with Oriko. It just feels kind of skeevy, even if we trust Oriko, Homura doesn't. She really wouldn't like us discussing things that could emotionally break her with one of her greatest potential threats.

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Yes, it feels wrong.

I went with not 'breaching Homura's privacy too much', and figured Brinapilot would say only as much as needed. Homura wouldn't like this, but it's such a complicated issue, you know?

If we can get any hints of how to not break Homura with the Potentialbomb, that would be so valuable...

Would it help to rephrase it to only share as little info as necessary? It wouldn't change the spirit of the votelines, but it might help.

 

[memoryofglory]

Yes, it feels wrong.

I went with not 'breaching Homura's privacy too much', and figured Brinapilot would say only as much as needed. Homura wouldn't like this, but it's such a complicated issue, you know?

If we can get any hints of how to not break Homura with the Potentialbomb, that would be so valuable...

Would it help to rephrase it to only share as little info as necessary? It wouldn't change the spirit of the votelines, but it might help.

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I don't think there is anyone we should ask about Homura.
We just need to get to know her, help her get strong enough to take the revelation, and use our best judgement on when to break it to her.

 

[Onmur]

• (From Mami) Some sort of improved range. Maybe a signal repeater of some sort, maybe just a direct boost to connection range.

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While it probably wouldn't lead to a solution, there's one more form of Soul Snuggles range extension we could try, I think. We've tried:

- Mixing our magic into Mami's Ribbon, with the Ribbon going outside our range. This allows us to control Grief in contact with the Ribbon. (Extending our magic through someone else's Soul).

- Cleansing Sayaka through her clone. (Using our magic on someone outside our range, by having that someone have a link to her Soul inside our range).

What we could try would be the reverse: We could give someone an enchanted marble of Grief, have them mix their magic into it outside our range, and try to cleanse them while they do that. We would be the ones getting Soul Snuggled in this case.

And maybe we can get Niko to investigate how to propagate this effect without the... debilitating side effect? (More like the range extension is the side effect, but who's counting? )

I don't think there is anyone we should ask about Homura.
We just need to get to know her, help her get strong enough to take the revelation, and use our best judgement on when to break it to her.

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The scary thing is that our best judgement call was to loopbomb her already, and Firn stopped us so we didn't break Homu. :/

 

[memoryofglory]

The scary thing is that our best judgement call was to loopbomb her already, and Firn stopped us so we didn't break Homu. :/

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Even so, Oriko may have a decent handle on Homura's character from half-remembered visions, but we still know Homura better.

Even if our judgement is flawed, we still don't have a better authority than ourselves on Homura's emotional state.

Except maybe Kyuubey, but let's not go there.

 

[Redshirt Army]

Even so, Oriko may have a decent handle on Homura's character from half-remembered visions, but we still know Homura better.

Even if our judgement is flawed, we still don't have a better authority than ourselves on Homura's emotional state.

Except maybe Kyuubey, but let's not go there.

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We need more information. By our best judgement call, we should potentialbomb Homura so Kyubey can't. And Firn all but spelled out that that would be a clusterfuck of a decision, so... yeah.

We can't get the info from Homura without risking a landmine from unknown unknowns, so asking Oriko is really the only choice.

 

[The Phoenixian]

I is le sad.


Random thought while thinking about the conceptual limits of Firn's prohibition on postcognition...

Would it be possible to show the feather to the birds and have Sayaka ask if they can track its source? Would that do anything?

Also, problem with making compasses, they would only work if the thing we want them to point towards were inside our range. At the time we try to make the compass, at that; the time we tried to make a compass to find Sasa, we didn't get a compass that would react in Sasa's presence, we straight up couldn't make it.

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I don't think showing the Feather to Sayaka's birds would help with anything without some additional magic to help. Not unless it's an actual crow feather that her birds can recognize.

As far as trackers go, even a failed tracker would still serve to falsify the Dedolere = Feathers hypothesis. Which is not ideal, but certainly useful.

Beyond that, the fact that we actually have a physical object, rather than just an idea of who we're looking for, means we can make something appreciably different from the previous attempt. For example, instead of trying to find her, the vote could be rewritten as a detector to find whether the Feather's originator is in our range and where.

*rejigs vote*

-[] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out where and who The Feather came from.
--[]Potential methods:
---[] Psychometry, to construct a model of what it used to be part of or how it was made.
---[] Detector, to find out where and when the originator is in our range.

 

[Onmur]

[X] Ask Homura if she knows any Yakuza bases outside of Mitakihara.
[X] Make sure you both take all the money this time.
[X] Jokingly debate the merits of repeating the mop thing.
[X] Thank Homura for the trip. Let her know how much you appreciate these moments. You're looking forward to next time.

[X] Back to your friends.
-[X] 'Seriously' ask Sayaka if she stayed out of trouble all of the twenty seconds you were gone.
-[X] Hug Mami. Mention that you're approaching 400 hugs, and you'll have to throw a celebration once you reach 500.
-[X] Kiss Mami goodbye.

[X] Meet up with the Kures.
-[X] Tell O&K they're your friends.
-[X] Discuss Homura and the Potentialbomb (Privacy Sphere).
--[X] How does it affect her?
--[X] How to break it gently to her?
--[X] If necessary, share thoughts without breaching Homura's privacy.
---[X] Homura could feel guilty of putting Madoka in danger.
---[X] Homura could lose faith, learning there's a cost to her looping.
-[X] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out what The Feather used to be part of.
-[X] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out where and who The Feather came from.
--[X]Potential methods:
---[X] Psychometry, to construct a model of what it used to be part of or how it was made.
---[X] Detector, to find out where and when the originator is in our range.

We need more information. By our best judgement call, we should potentialbomb Homura so Kyubey can't. And Firn all but spelled out that that would be a clusterfuck of a decision, so... yeah.

We can't get the info from Homura without risking a landmine from unknown unknowns, so asking Oriko is really the only choice.

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We could... maybe beg Homu to let us tell someone about the loops? If she allowed us to tell one person, we could explain things to that one person and get advice.

The problem then would become finding the right person to tell about this. If we get that far.

The thing about Oriko is that she's already seen the effects of the Loopbomb, and presumably has seen futures in which Homura took the Loopbomb sometimes better, sometimes worse. I mean, she adviced us to break it to Homu before KB does, so what did she actually see, that would have made it better?

I don't think showing the Feather to Sayaka's birds would help with anything without some additional magic to help. Not unless it's an actual crow feather that her birds can recognize.

As far as trackers go, even a failed tracker would still serve to falsify the Dedolere = Feathers hypothesis. Which is not ideal, but certainly useful.

Beyond that, the fact that we actually have a physical object, rather than just an idea of who we're looking for, means we can make something appreciably different from the previous attempt. For example, instead of trying to find her, the vote could be rewritten as a detector to find whether the Feather's originator is in our range and where.

*rejigs vote*

-[] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out where and who The Feather came from.
--[]Potential methods:
---[] Psychometry, to construct a model of what it used to be part of or how it was made.
---[] Detector, to find out where and when the originator is in our range.

Click to shrink...

Could the detector work based on DNA, or some such?

 

[The Phoenixian]

[X] Ask Homura if she knows any Yakuza bases outside of Mitakihara.
[X] Make sure you both take all the money this time.
[X] Jokingly debate the merits of repeating the mop thing.
[X] Thank Homura for the trip. Let her know how much you appreciate these moments. You're looking forward to next time.

[X] Back to your friends.
-[X] 'Seriously' ask Sayaka if she stayed out of trouble all of the twenty seconds you were gone.
-[X] Hug Mami. Mention that you're approaching 400 hugs, and you'll have to throw a celebration once you reach 500.
-[X] Kiss Mami goodbye.

[X] Meet up with the Kures.
-[X] Tell O&K they're your friends.
-[X] Discuss Homura and the Potentialbomb (Privacy Sphere).
--[X] How does it affect her?
--[X] How to break it gently to her?
--[X] If necessary, share thoughts without breaching Homura's privacy.
---[X] Homura could feel guilty of putting Madoka in danger.
---[X] Homura could lose faith, learning there's a cost to her looping.
-[X] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out what The Feather used to be part of.
-[X] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out where and who The Feather came from.
--[X]Potential methods:
---[X] Psychometry, to construct a model of what it used to be part of or how it was made.
---[X] Detector, to find out where and when the originator is in our range.


We could... maybe beg Homu to let us tell someone about the loops? If she allowed us to tell one person, we could explain things to that one person and get advice.

The problem then would become finding the right person to tell about this. If we get that far.

The thing about Oriko is that she's already seen the effects of the Loopbomb, and presumably has seen futures in which Homura took the Loopbomb sometimes better, sometimes worse. I mean, she adviced us to break it to Homu before KB does, so what did she actually see, that would have made it better?


Could the detector work based on DNA, or some such?

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Sure, just put that down as, "DNA analyzer"

We've certainly done similar before with the shamble and all. Though given that the DNA stuff stopped working where Kuroki (presumably) witched out, who knows how it'll actually work out if it's made from soul rather than flesh.

Hmmm... Though I do wonder if it's possible to track witch residue. It's been... too long since I watched the series but soul gems seem to be able to do so after all.

Don't see how we could use that here though but it's a thing.

 

[Qwertystop]

A Dresden Files style tracking spell, turning the feather into a compass that points to its origin, on the other hand? Well, it certainly has our usual range limit problem, but on the other hand, one of thepotential targets we're looking to disprove is ourself, and the rest are various members of our friends. Absent an outside chance like Feathers being a crow controlled by Feathers!Sayaka, we're going to be close enough to all of them.

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The range limit makes it difficult to tell the difference between "the target is out of range, so that means it's none of us" and "the enchantment didn't work how we wanted it to".

 

[Onmur]

Sure, just put that down as, "DNA analyzer"

We've certainly done similar before with the shamble and all. Though given that the DNA stuff stopped working where Kuroki (presumably) witched out, who knows how it'll actually work out if it's made from soul rather than flesh.

Hmmm... Though I do wonder if it's possible to track witch residue. It's been... too long since I watched the series but soul gems seem to be able to do so after all.

Don't see how we could use that here though but it's a thing.

Click to shrink...

The Pleiades have a thing in PMKM... that infamous tracking app. They take the residue of a Witch's presence and somehow apply an enchantment to ther Soul Gems that improves their Witch tracking capabilities insofar as tracking that specific Witch goes.





Sabrina grabs Oriko by the shoulders and shakes her.

"WHAT DID YOU SEE?!"

"I told you everything I know!"

"BULLSHIT!" she shakes her harder.

"I- might have- l-left out a f-few details."

"Obviously."

"N-now stooop shaking m-eeeee..."

Sabrina stops and pats down the wrinkles her shaking left on Oriko's clothes, quickly joined by Kirika doing the same.

The citrine eyed girl glares at Sabrina.

"Do you have to do that every time?"

Sabrina turns to Oriko. "Same question."

The platinum haired girl sighs. "A girl should be allowed some secrets..."

Sabrina turns back to Kirika. "A girl should be allowed some exhasperation when her friend's lives are being played with to boost someone's ego."

"It's fine, dear," Oriko's hand slides its way to cup Kirika's face, "I might have an habit of being secretive about important things I should not be so secretive about."

Kirika nods against Oriko's soft hand, dreamily looking into the taller girl's eyes... before she blinks and turns to frown at Sabrina. "But if you keep literally shaking my girl for information, I'm gonna start charging you for it."

Sabrina bites her lip, deep in thought. "You know..."

"Agh..." Oriko clutches her head, as if trying to fend off an impeding migraine.

"... That sounds like a great idea," Sabrina grins, "we could charge people to shake down Oriko! I got to tell you, it's soooo therapeutic, Sayaka would love it, I'm sure."

Kirika frowns harder, almost looking constipated.

"... How much do you think we could charge for that?"

"Kirika-"

"Shush," the shorter girl lays a finger against Oriko's lips, "we're talking business."

Oriko can only stare, mute and horrified, as the two closest people to her in her life started debating about the proper monetary recompense that could be demanded of the act of... shaking her by the shoulders a little?

Oriko blinks. What was she thinking?

She kisses Kirika's finger, causing the girl to blush and startle back a step.

"We should charge by the second and by each shaking action," Oriko Mikuni interjects.

Sabrina and Kirika stare.

Oriko smirks and swoops Kirika into a hug as the girl launches herself at her with a shout of "you're so smart, Orikooooo~". If she could make a profit out of being insufferable... she could be really insufferable when she wanted to.

 

[Script Mak3r]

For those of you discussing anti-matter, can we not? Anti-matter is a terrible idea. Need I remind you of this?
WoF says anti-matter is a bad idea.

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Small amounts of antimatter should be fine. Start with an antiproton, which if it reacts with a proton will only generate ~3.0*10^-10 Joules, which is well within acceptable limits. Experiment at that level until we're confidant we can work with something more substantial, say an atom of antihydrogen. Rinse and repeat. But don't rinse with water, because that reacts with antimatter.
By comparison, that omake had a kilogram of antimatter, which is a lot.

 

[Norad the Borad]

Small amounts of antimatter should be fine. Start with an antiproton, which if it reacts with a proton will only generate ~3.0*10^-10 Joules, which is well within acceptable limits. Experiment at that level until we're confidant we can work with something more substantial, say an atom of antihydrogen. Rinse and repeat. But don't rinse with water, because that reacts with antimatter.
By comparison, that omake had a kilogram of antimatter, which is a lot.

Click to shrink...

Antimatter is a confirmed bad end to the quest. A little caution never hurt anyone.

 

[Norad the Borad]

It took one misjudgment from Sabrina to end the quest. One. I'd rather not play with something that can end the quest so easily.

 

[Script Mak3r]

Antimatter is a confirmed bad end to the quest. A little caution never hurt anyone.

Click to shrink...

Starting with literally sub-atomic quantities of antimatter is being cautious. 3*10^-10 J ~= 7.19*10^-14 grams of TNT, where the amount in the omake was ~4*10^7 grams of TNT. That's 21 orders of magnitude difference.

 

[Kaizuki]

Right, so... Hi again everybody, I'm back. Things went really well I think. Glad to see the thread didn't, I dunno... implode or anything.

*quietly hands Firn $5*

Jk, jk.

Let's see here. There's a vote.

[X] Ask Homura if she knows any Yakuza bases outside of Mitakihara.
[X] Make sure you both take all the money this time.
[X] Jokingly debate the merits of repeating the mop thing.
[X] Thank Homura for the trip. Let her know how much you appreciate these moments. You're looking forward to next time.

[X] Back to your friends.
-[X] 'Seriously' ask Sayaka if she stayed out of trouble all of the twenty seconds you were gone.
-[X] Hug Mami. Mention that you're approaching 400 hugs, and you'll have to throw a celebration once you reach 500.
-[X] Kiss Mami goodbye.

[X] Meet up with the Kures.
-[X] Tell O&K they're your friends.
-[X] Discuss Homura and the Potentialbomb (Privacy Sphere).
--[X] How does it affect her?
--[X] How to break it gently to her?
--[X] If necessary, share thoughts without breaching Homura's privacy.
---[X] Homura could feel guilty of putting Madoka in danger.
---[X] Homura could lose faith, learning there's a cost to her looping.
-[X] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out what The Feather used to be part of.
-[X] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out where and who The Feather came from.
--[X]Potential methods:
---[X] Psychometry, to construct a model of what it used to be part of or how it was made.
---[X] Detector, to find out where and when the originator is in our range.

Click to shrink...

Hm.

[] Ask Homura if she knows any Yakuza bases outside of Mitakihara.
> Sure, okay. I dunno why we're asking that but, I mean, free action lol.

[] Make sure you both take all the money this time.
> Sure-- oh that's what this is about huh? Eh... cool, sure.

[] Jokingly debate the merits of repeating the mop thing.
> Go for it.

[] Thank Homura for the trip. Let her know how much you appreciate these moments. You're looking forward to next time.
> Yes.

[] Back to your friends.
-[] 'Seriously' ask Sayaka if she stayed out of trouble all of the twenty seconds you were gone.
> Lol

-[] Hug Mami. Mention that you're approaching 400 hugs, and you'll have to throw a celebration once you reach 500.
> ...
> ...
> @Onmur this one is a no. I understand that for some reason a count has been kept. I do not approve of this line: there is a boundary between loving and what is frankly obsession. This is the sort of thing which blows past that boundary and then still has enough force behind it to level a mountain range. If your SO told you they'd been counting every hug you'd ever had and it was approaching 400 and they'll have to throw a celebration when it's 500, wouldn't that be, you know, at least a lot creepy?

-[] Kiss Mami goodbye.
> Duh. But, replace goodbye with "before departing" or something. Just a wording thing.


[] Meet up with the Kures.
-[] Tell O&K they're your friends.
> Yes.
-[] Discuss Homura and the Potentialbomb (Privacy Sphere).
--[] How does it affect her?
> Yes.
--[] How to break it gently to her?
> What.
> Wrong question. We've been told not to break it to her at all. The correct question is either "why does it affect her the way it does" if Oriko has sufficient insight into that, or else "how are we supposed to keep QB from dropping it on her."
> Would really just cut the vote here, instead of trailing on and on right after we just asked how the potentialbomb affects Homura. Let's reserve our time to ask further questions on that trajectory depending on the outcome, okay?

--[] If necessary, share thoughts without breaching Homura's privacy.
---[] Homura could feel guilty of putting Madoka in danger.
---[] Homura could lose faith, learning there's a cost to her looping.
> What. No. Speculate on this on our own time; simply learning how it would affect her would tell us a great deal about the answers to these kinds of questions.

-[] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out what The Feather used to be part of.
-[] Use enchanted griefhax to figure out where and who The Feather came from.
--[]Potential methods:
---[] Psychometry, to construct a model of what it used to be part of or how it was made.
---[] Detector, to find out where and when the originator is in our range.
> ... Sure?
> Problem #1 with this is that "enchanted griefhax" is not a term in the dictionary. There's speckled enchants. There's griefhax. What is "enchanted griefhax?"
> Problem #2... I really doubt this is going to get us anywhere. But, it's probably worth a shot I guess.






CAT VOTE ON TABLE


[X] Ask Homura if she knows any Yakuza bases outside of Mitakihara.
-[X] Raid one. Make sure to take all the money this time.
-[X] Jokingly debate the merits of repeating the mop thing.
[X] Thank Homura for the trip. Let her know how much you appreciate spending time with her. You're looking forward to next time.

> A couple wording changes

[X] Back to your friends.
-[X] 'Seriously' ask Sayaka if she stayed out of trouble all of the twenty seconds you were gone.
-[X] Hug Mami. Love Mami. Kiss Mami's cheek before you go your ways for the day.

> Deleted creepy line
> Wording changes

[X] Meet up with the Kures.
-[X] Standing: at some point during this visit, tell Kirika about your personal revelations from last night. Not the specifics of what happened, just... where you started out, generally, what realizations you've made about Mami, and where your realizations about Mami have lead you. Ideally do this in hearing range of Oriko, otherwise just imply that Kirika had ought to pass it on.

> This is another catgirl plot. For those out of the know, canon Oriko overcomes her issues by eventually concluding that her purpose in life is to love Kirika. This is really good for her when it happens. Our own situation -- see point insertion 30 -- is helpfully shaped very nearly like a clue-by-four in this scenario.

-[X] Tell O&K they're your friends.
-[X] Thank O&K for being your friends. You'll have to have them over for dinner some time. Mami makes the best cake {1}.
-[X] Discuss Homura and the Potentialbomb (Privacy Sphere).
--[X] How does it affect her, in as much detail as possible?
> Deleted stuff that goes past that. Added a line including a reference and just being friendly.

{1} --

Spoiler: Reference

... Honestly, it's nice having people being our friends. I mean, there're all these idjits out there who go around whining about how we're just trying to fucking save lives (COUGH SENDAI COUGH), but Oriko and Kirika? When have they ever complained about it? Eh? Eh?