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Personally, I'm of the opinion that having a nuke, while quite cool (it'd make a great mantle piece), is more trouble than it's worth.

I trust that we're (probably) not stupid enough to pull another Tokyo, but stealing a nuke, Russian or otherwise, will set off an international incident, that coobie may not inclined to cover up for us.

Besides, we have other ways of getting that sort of firepower. Orbital bombardment comes to mind, as does a scaled up Prima Luce. (Although in the latter case, we'd have to find a way to get out of the blast radius.)
 
Shadowhisker said:
Personally, I'm of the opinion that having a nuke, while quite cool (it'd make a great mantle piece), is more trouble than it's worth.

I trust that we're (probably) not stupid enough to pull another Tokyo, but stealing a nuke, Russian or otherwise, will set off an international incident, that coobie may not inclined to cover up for us.

Besides, we have other ways of getting that sort of firepower. Orbital bombardment comes to mind, as does a scaled up Prima Luce. (Although in the latter case, we'd have to find a way to get out of the blast radius.)
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Also, we might be able to make a nuke, if we really wanted to. Grief Centrifuge, anyone?

Then again, I doubt we have any experts in Nuclear Weapons Manufacturing on the team.
 
Higure said:
Also, we might be able to make a nuke, if we really wanted to. Grief Centrifuge, anyone?

Then again, I doubt we have any experts in Nuclear Weapons Manufacturing on the team.
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I'm sure we could throw together a gun assembly fairly easily; it'd be quick and dirty, but it worked for Little Boy.

An implosion assembly would more difficult to manufacture- we could get the materials, but the measurements would have to precise- and H-Bombs are out of the question.
 
If for some stupid reason we wanted to destroy a bunch of everything around us, we can simply scoop up a bunch of random material, crush it exceedingly hard with grief, and then disperse the grief all at once. We don't need pointless toys.
 
Shadowhisker said:
I'm sure we could throw together a gun assembly fairly easily; it'd be quick and dirty, but it worked for Little Boy.

An implosion assembly would more difficult to manufacture- we could get the materials, but the measurements would have to precise- and H-Bombs are out of the question.
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Hmm...well, it'd probably best not to ever actually do it, but it's an interesting idea, at least. Still, best to avoid dirty bombs, I'd say.

Godwinson said:
If for some stupid reason we wanted to destroy a bunch of everything around us, we can simply scoop up a bunch of random material, crush it exceedingly hard with grief, and then disperse the grief all at once. We don't need pointless toys.
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Your point? Didn't we recently establish that the mission isn't everything, and we're allowed to be happy?

It's true, we don't need to do anything fancy. Mecha Gurren Zilla Lagann? Prima Luce? Anything, really, besides a linear accelerator and a weight? We can do without, in terms of combat.

Except, you know, having fun with it is part of what makes Sabrina Sabrina. Fancy, needless names. Overengineering. SCIENCE!

It's part of who she is, and it's something a lot of the players enjoy greatly--both in practice, and in our tangential flights of fancy.

Of course, if it's just nukes that bother you, I suppose that's reasonable, but there's no need to get snide about it.
 
[X] Onmur

We've had one heavy conversation already. Sabrina venting (or getting Homura to vent) might be a nice character moment, but I don't think it's vital, and I'd rather not have a second heavy conversation next to the first one.
 
Higure said:
Hmm...well, it'd probably best not to ever actually do it, but it's an interesting idea, at least. Still, best to avoid dirty bombs, I'd say.

Your point? Didn't we recently establish that the mission isn't everything, and we're allowed to be happy?

It's true, we don't need to do anything fancy. Mecha Gurren Zilla Lagann? Prima Luce? Anything, really, besides a linear accelerator and a weight? We can do without, in terms of combat.

Except, you know, having fun with it is part of what makes Sabrina Sabrina. Fancy, needless names. Overengineering. SCIENCE!

It's part of who she is, and it's something a lot of the players enjoy greatly--both in practice, and in our tangential flights of fancy.

Of course, if it's just nukes that bother you, I suppose that's reasonable, but there's no need to get snide about it.
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No reason not to do both. :D
So how about we crush a bunch of hydrogen down like Godwinson says, and then dissolve the grief at a single point? Hydrogen bomb laser. :D
Or just an air gun, depending on how much pressure we're actually able to use. Still fun though.
And also steal/make all the other wonderful things we want.
 
I know. We grab some metal, shape it into something that looks nuke like, paint it appropriately, and bam! We got a nuke!

If we ever actually need a nuclear explosion, we have multiple way to do so using magic. We can even shield ourselves from the blast completely.

Also, after people get used (and scared) to the idea of us having a nuke in our pocket, we can totally one day reveal the nuke is a fake, for shit and giggles.

Then the week after a nuclear explosion goes off in the middle of the ocean because we somehow got into a strange witch fight all the way in the middle of nowhere and for some reason nuking the whole place seemed like a nice, safe, good idea.

Everyone will come to fear the image of Sabrina and Mami snuggling. Fear that anyone might be foolish enough to interrupt the snuggles. Or worse, the kissing.

Of course, this is all Akiko's and Riona's shared persepective as they huddle up in meguca prison, whispering paranoia to each other in their very own self made hate echo chamber, and does not reflect the reality that everyone's actually shipping Sabrina and Mami on. : V


theauthor said:
And thus Nutella cult civil war are commenced. :V
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A war fought with hugs.

Lord Chungus said:
[x] Thank Homura for the trip; it's fun, doing this with her, and you enjoy her company.
[x] Get excited and ask when you can do this again.
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These remarks are being purloined liberated and reappropriated to the righteoust cause!

[X] Make sure you both take all the money this time.
[X] Ask Homura if she's got another mop. Debate the merits of being a calling card dropping anti-Yakuza vigilante.
[X] Thank Homura for the trip. Let her know how much you appreciate these moments. You're looking forward to next time.

[X] After the raid:

[X] Back to your friends.
-[X] 'Seriously' ask Sayaka if she stayed out of trouble all of the twenty seconds you were gone.
-[X] Hug Mami. Mention that you're approaching 400 hugs, and you'll have to throw a celebration once you reach 500.
-[X] Kiss Mami goodbye.

[X] Meet up with the Kures.
-[X] Tell O&K they're your friends.
-[X] Discuss Homura and the Potentialbomb.
--[X] How does it affect her?
---[X] Share thoughts without breaching Homura's privacy too much:
----[X] Guilt.
----[X] Losing faith in victory.
--[X] Is there any way to break it gently to her?
-[X] Make an enchanted Griefhax psychometer for The Feather at some point during the meeting.
 
[X] Onmur

For the Wally battle, it would probably be best to think of some ways we could move the battle into orbit, or at the very least somewhere above the ocean, so as to allow us to go all out without risk of... Property Damage.
 
We'd also have test whether antimatter would react with our grief; I doubt it would, but you never be too careful with that shit.

And on a tangent, I have to wonder if there's a form of raw hope out there, and how such a substance would interact with grief.
 
Shadowhisker said:
Maybe we could whip up some sort of "hard light" suspension matrix?
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Would this be through the use of extremely dense photons, photons that have undergone quantum entanglement with regular atoms (probably wouldn't work), or a magnetic field?
Onmur said:
Considering we can tank the sun with our Grief, I think we could also tank antimatter explosions? :V
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There's also the "everything else within the blast radius" thing to worry about.
 
HoodedHero007 said:
Would this be through the use of extremely dense photons, photons that have undergone quantum entanglement with regular atoms (probably wouldn't work), or a magnetic field?
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The last one, although the antimatter sample would have to be anti-neutronium, or something else without a charge. I was also considering just blasting the sample with light (or other neutral baryon particles), using the force from that as a sort of tractor beam.
 
HoodedHero007 said:
Would this be through the use of extremely dense photons, photons that have undergone quantum entanglement with regular atoms (probably wouldn't work), or a magnetic field?

There's also the "everything else within the blast radius" thing to worry about.
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Well... if we made a spherical Grief shell with a radius of 100m... with us (and anybody else to be protected) in the middle, inside a smaller Grief sphere... we could create mundane explosions in between both spheres to our heart's content, though we wouldn't be able to see them...

Which, crap, would mean that if we caught Walpurgisnacht like this*, she would take no meaningful damage from the explosions, because it would be more dramatic for her to come out unfazed when we check whether we killed her or not. :V

*Mind, it'd be more problematic making sure Walp doesn't breach the outer shield, but who's counting.

At any rate, would it be possible for us to use the same Grief sphere to contain the radiation from the explosions after we're done having fun exploding things? :thonk: Then we could... compress the sphere, bring it to outer space where it won't hurt anyone, and release the radiation. Or maybe... just put it in hammerspace? :thonk: :thonk: :thonk:

Lord Chungus said:
Sabrina: Don't worry, I'll tank the anti-matter and a nuke and the sun!

Homura: twitches

Madoka: That sounds fun! Take me with you?

Homura: slowly reaches into her shield, twitching faster
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"Look, Homura, remember how happy you were about that giant cannon I made for you?"

"Happy."

"You actually smiled. That's huge, coming from you."

"..."

"Well, after giving you a giant cannon, I couldn't not give Mami a giant cannon. And then I couldn't give everyone a giant cannon. So Madoka gets a giant cannon. Which explodes things. It's only fair."

"Madoka shouldn't need a giant cannon. She needs to be protected."

"You can't put Madoka in a bottle, Homura."

"She shouldn't ever be in a position where having a weapon should be beneficial to her."

"It's for fun! All of Madoka's friends' got cannons now, it would be cruel to leave her out."

"She needs to be safe."

"Maybe we can reach a compromise."

"..."


"I can't help but feel Madoka's giant cannon is a little... different than the rest."

"The cannon is the same as the others."

"Yes, but the... that thing. That glowing, creepy sphererical thing that's where the controls are supposed to be."

"Well, that's just a completely conceptually isolated magitechnological container which cannot be breached from the outside without a conceptual thought bridge being formed by having two minds connect from the inside and the outside at once; it has expanded space so it can house a whole ecosystem which produces everything a thousand people would need to live, without any of the dangers usually involved. It also has its own day and night cycle, but the sun is pink. There's also chairs instead of trees."

"... You're bullshitting me about those chairs."

"Nope. Word."

"Uh... So you put Madoka inside a world... inside a bottle."

"..."

*Facepalm*
 
Shadowhisker said:
The last one, although the antimatter sample would have to be anti-neutronium, or something else without a charge. I was also considering just blasting the sample with light (or other neutral baryon particles), using the force from that as a sort of tractor beam.
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Perhaps we could also try some experiments with negative mass? Although, even if we did manage to create it, the gravity wouldn't be useful except in large quantities, in which case we'd also need to compress it with grief.
 
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