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Kaizuki said:
Frankly my preference would just be to have us do the storytelling with a massive grief visual aid
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My preference is to do this whenever we have to explain anything. So far I think we've only done it when asking the Kures about the Pleiades and demonstrating their need for pants.
Kaizuki said:
The 150 words is for Redshirt's OCD.
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I thought it was to illustrate that you'd found a loophole. I apologize.
 
Kaizuki said:
Frankly my preference would just be to have us do the storytelling with a massive grief visual aid, and reproduce the exact scene of Madoka's dream for authenticity. Involves less suffering for Homu. But I could see alternative arguments.

E: and then if anybody asks why Homyra isn't doing the storytelling we just look at them and ask if they really think she should have to go through anything more.
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Now I'm just picturing (for some reason) Kyouko, Sayaka and Sabrina looking at someone and going 'are you stupid?' at the same time.
 
Lord Chungus said:
Mitakihara didn't know what hit it.
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Masami languidly blinked up from her position in her girlfriends lap. "Do you really think anyone's actually gonna expect candy?"

Megane's retort was sharp and polished. "Mere expectations don't matter. If we're going to go to this much trouble to observe a Western holiday, it behooves us to go to the full extent of the tradition. And in America, children get candy."

Hiroko raised an eyebrow, her hands coming to a halt in their combing of Masami's hair. "They get candy going door-to-door, sure, but do they get candy after going in a haunted house?"

Megane came to a stop. Like all of her movements, it was elegant and flowing, seemingly perfectly pre-planned. "...I don't actually know."

Masami turned slightly, pouting up at Hiroko. "Does it matter? We can afford it, and it's not like the kids are gonna be mad about free candy. We already went to all the trouble of putting up posters for the event, what's a little more?"

Hiroko smiled. "You're just saying that because you want all the spare candy for yourself."

Masami's expression hardened, becoming somber. "No way." The facade of seriousness cracked. "I'd split it with Ono. It was her idea, after all!"

Hiroko giggled. "If anyone's getting candy, it's me! My illusions are gonna be doing like ninety percent of the work in here!"

Megane stepped forward, her dark cloak billowing behind her on a nonexistent breeze. A cruel smile blossomed on her lips as she let out an aristocratic laugh. "Ohohoho! I somehow fail to recall you being the ones to bother to spread the word about this little event of hours, despite all the time you waste in bed while I'm in class. And what would a haunted house be without its magnificent vampire hostess?"

Masami gestured, and Megane's cape was sharply yanked backwards. With pure grace, the "vampire" twirled with the motion, and as she came to a halt against the back wall, her cloak dramatically wrapped around her. If everyone in the room hasn't known better, it would almost have seemed like it had been Megane's intention all along.

Hiroko ignored the by-play, then suddenly blinked. "Wait. What if Sabrina brings her group over? She's a Westerner, and I heard she's been helping take care of some kids..."

Masami straightened up, her head finally leaving Hiroko's lap. "Oh, don't you worry. I discussed it with Ono."

Ono beamed back, her picture-perfect impression of innocence only slightly ruined by her evil looking outfit and fake vampire fangs. "Me and Masami have cooked up a special surprise if Sabrina or Mami show up."

Hiroko blinked. "...Alright. But if she wants to confiscate the Clear Seed or sic her other friends on us, I want it on the record that I wasn't involved."

Masami leaned in close, her breath tickling Hiroko's ear. "Are you suuure~? I've got some extra-special illusion ideas..."

Hiroko bravely attempted to resist the blush creeping up her cheeks, despite the futility of the effort. "W-well, I s-suppose it wouldn't hurt just to hear the ideas..."
 
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Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but if Homura has to come clean to someone, the least stressful people to tell her story to are probably Sayaka (the person who's opinion matters the least to her) or Kyouko (who she understands and is relatively comfortable with).

Not saying she should, but it's something to consider.
 
memoryofglory said:
Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but if Homura has to come clean to someone, the least stressful people to tell her story to are probably Sayaka (the person who's opinion matters the least to her) or Kyouko (who she understands and is relatively comfortable with).

Not saying she should, but it's something to consider.
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The problems with both of those being that A) Homura probably isn't jumping at the bit to tell Sayaka her story, even with how good their relationship's been this loop and B) I don't think Homura and Kyoko have even met this loop. Homura may understand and be comfortable with Kyoko, but Kyoko doesn't know jer at all.

Now, Kyoko and Homura meet and have an actual relationship I could see the latter being an option, but it would take a while. And she might tell Sayaka if we tell her too, but I doubt it's something she really wants to do.
 
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Kaizuki said:
Frankly my preference would just be to have us do the storytelling with a massive grief visual aid, and reproduce the exact scene of Madoka's dream for authenticity
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I eagerly await the day that Sabrina finally gives in and actually shows someone a relevant clip of the anime via Griefbending. Terrible though it might be, Tetris could be effective in impressing the serious nature of grief spirals to Sayaka and/or Momdoka?

Also, I desperately NEED to hug every single line of @Lord Chungus 's omake @_@ But how can we canonize an October omake if Walpurgis attacks in spring?!?
 
Jonen C said:
Special tech takes time and MP to charge up - and there's candy to be had.
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Group Hug gets easier to cast the more people share in the technique, though. If only Mami, Madoka, everyone had contributed into the casting, they could've all hugged Homura together.

But of course, Homura's deviousness came into play: She temporarily took Madoka out of the game by inducing a BLUSH effect in her, and everyone else had the 'politeness' debuff active, due to their upbringing, so they reacted slower than normal to prepare and hug Homura, because they saw Homura and Madoka holding hands and didn't want to interrupt that moment.

So Homura, in one fell handholding, took away most of the players for long enough that Sabrina couldn't employ hugs. Not to mention it was all a quick action to start with. Homura must have planned it all in timestop. Delightfully devilish.
 
Onmur said:
Group Hug gets easier to cast the more people share in the technique, though. If only Mami, Madoka, everyone had contributed into the casting, they could've all hugged Homura together.

But of course, Homura's deviousness came into play: She temporarily took Madoka out of the game by inducing a BLUSH effect in her, and everyone else had the 'politeness' debuff active, due to their upbringing, so they reacted slower than normal to prepare and hug Homura, because they saw Homura and Madoka holding hands and didn't want to interrupt that moment.

So Homura, in one fell handholding, took away most of the players for long enough that Sabrina couldn't employ hugs. Not to mention it was all a quick action to start with. Homura must have planned it all in timestop. Delightfully devilish.
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Counterpoint: Every second the party is immobilized by group hug is a second not spent acquiring candy.
 
Script Mak3r said:
Move south of the equator, and it'll be spring all through October! :V
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Wait, I got an idea.

What if... right before the day of Walpurgisnacht... we take Mitakihara, and move it west? As long as we keep moving it just quickly enough, it'll never be the day of Walpurgisnacht in Mitakihara. Then once we've done this for 24 hours, we just end up with Mitakihara back in its place, having skipped the day of Walpurgisnacht's attack.

Walpurgisnacht will be so confused.



"I. Can't. Believe. This. Worked."

*Holds Homura*

"You OK there, friend?"

"Give me a minute. Or sixty. Thousand."

"As long as you need."

'Hey Mami, Sabrina, you won't believe what happened.'

'Kazumi? What happened?'

'We had a big fucking Witch attack in Asunaro!'

'WHAT!'

'And we kicked its ass! Niko says the Grief Seed's shiny and wants you to do some spooky Grief magic on it. That's why I'm calling, actually.'

'... You girls are all OK.'

'Yes.'

'Good. That is very good.'

'Anyway, give Niko a call. Not now, though. Later, she's in the zone right now, you know?'

'Yes.'

'Later.'

'Later.'

"..."

"What is it?"

"... Nothing. It was nothing, Homura. Don't worry about it."

"..."

'Don't ever-'

'-tell Homura, I know.'

'I love you.'
 
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Onmur said:
Wait, I got an idea.

What if... right before the day of Walpurgisnacht... we take Mitakihara, and move it west? As long as we keep moving it just quickly enough, it'll never be the day of Walpurgisnacht in Mitakihara. Then once we've done this for 24 hours, we just end up with Mitakihara back in its place, having skipped the day of Walpurgisnacht's attack.

Walpurgisnacht will be so confused.



"I. Can't. Believe. This. Worked."

*Holds Homura*

"You OK there, friend?"

"Give me a minute. Or sixty. Thousand."

"As long as you need."

'Hey Mami, Sabrina, you won't believe what happened.'

'Kazumi? What happened?'

'We had a big fucking Witch attack in Asunaro!'

'WHAT!'

'And we kicked its ass! Niko says the Grief Seed's shiny and wants you to do some spooky Grief magic on it. That's why I'm calling, actually.'

'... You girls are all OK.'

'Yes.'

'Good. That is very good.'

'Anyway, give Niko a call. Not now, though. Later, she's in the zone right now, you know?'

'Yes.'

'Later.'

'Later.'

"..."

"What is it?"

"... Nothing. It was nothing, Homura. Don't worry about it."

"..."

'Don't ever-'

'-tell Homura, I know.'

'I love you.'
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As the wise and mighty Star named Patrick once said.
"Push it somewhere else."
 
Re: Shopping list with Homura

*Anti-material capability for newbies, to mop up familiars. Burns less magic, exploits the longer ranges possible in the open barrier Walpurgisnacht generates. It fits Homura's tactical doctrine. We have lots of familiars to counter.

*Platform craft for our girls during the battle over the bay. Either gun platforms or rest stops for teleport kiting. We don't want the fight over land. Sometimes our folks can't all fly.

*Large projectile threats, HE rounds. Explosions do not seem to kill the Queen of Witches. But it chases attackers, and it can get knocked back. Big weapons are intended to kite, area control and defeat the massive projectiles Walpurgisnacht favors. Breaking the concentration the witch needs to resist our Griefbending might be a byproduct.

*Souvenirs for Yuki. We should keep her happy, Madokami knows we are going to use her labor again.

*Souvenirs for JSDF, if we want to be stocked up well for future diplomacy. Bring a mundane camera, take embarrassing pictures of their naval tech. And their servers.

*Bulk refined materials, for us to nanoforge or transmute. Gathering minerals from seawater is for late stage gameplay. Right now, beginning with industrial purified ingredients gives us better casting time. What is on the list? Nicer barstock for anti-magic bangles. Construction materials for a storage bunker. Rarefied alloys/glasses for our instrumentation manufacturing scheme. i.e., when one can harvest on a nanoscale like Sabrina, there are lots of good things in old electronics. We can take the gold off the Admiral's table service, pen, etc. while leaving the items otherwise unharmed. Zinc will be plated on some outdoor structural metals, and they don't need it more than we do. Graphite is probably in evidence, so that sort of crafting becomes easier.

These are extending from the detailed suggestion post, long ago.

Re: Sayaka

The other harmonic of the Sayaka-Homura vibe is territorial imperative.
Sayaka is gloriously human.
It's easy to get on Sayaka's list when you are the new girl, competing for time against her around Madoka. Sayaka can express her great loyalty by being possessive.
@Agent Whiskers - is this the missing thought? Or do you have another?

DB_Explorer said:
So...

more hugs?

Thats what I'm getting from this - we just need SAYAKA to hug Homura.
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Agent Whiskers said:
Okay, then:V



It would probably be awkward.
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Actually, getting to this level should be the best kind of awkward. Growth and realization type awkward. Sayaka can help us immeasurably in her own way. Think of her as Madoka's sister-proxy friend, and it's clear that Sayaka can participate in normalizing Homura's approach to Madoka.
One of the fractal traces of maturity we can use to heal Homura's ability to love is under this, correct? The Golden Ending requires the primary relationship to be enacted in a mutually positive way this time, and the list of sub-goals I imagine for that is stuffed with emotional growth tasks that let Homura experience and advance her relationship. We know what happens when she gets friendzoned...

Kai ... Pyre.... Moving verse. Thanks.

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As for delivery, Speechify is possible, or we could try to use Realization for greater effect? Meaning, simply telling Homura what the "rules of Sayaka" are is correct, but lacks impact. Personal growth for Homura has not been maximized.
If we state facts and stories, and then coach Homura into doing the analysis herself, and showing us her result, what happens?
The answer becomes Real to her. And so does the WAY TO UNDERSTAND. Show her how and why we understand. We could be boosting her relationship skills with everybody if we do this best.
 
So, I just realized something.

Cherno Quest was set in Vladivostok. We are currently heading to Vladivostok for shopping, which the authorities will not take kindly to.

Even if it's only in omake form, are we going to run headlong into a Tesla Fist?
 
Shadowhisker said:
So, I just realized something.

Cherno Quest was set in Vladivostok. We are currently heading to Vladivostok for shopping, which the authorities will not take kindly to.

Even if it's only in omake form, are we going to run headlong into a Tesla Fist?
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Only if we aren't paying attention and Homura doesn't warn us in time.
 
So I don't know waht you're all talking about but it sounds like a chance to redeem ourselves from that time we didn't cut off O&K's hands in timestop, by cutting off something's hands and stealing their gloves!
 
blast flame said:
Alternatively we try to steal his Telsa Glove (I assume that's why he's called Telsa Fist) off his hand and that brings him into timestop.
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Correction! The mecha in question is called Cherno Alpha. It is his hands that have the title of "Tesla Fists".

Granted, I could've worded my own post less ambiguously, and stealing said Tesla Fists is a good idea.
 
Man, that fight would have been a lot cleaner if we had cut off their hands while degemming them. Reattaching hands is simple enough healing, and it would have distracted them while they were degemmed and prevented counter-attacks if Kirika managed an antimagic.

A hell of a lot better than ballistic decapitation.
 
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