That certainly too, yeah, fair. Now it's all tied up in helping-ness, mwargh.

Something else interesting I thought of while rewatching, but like, Sayaka made her wish for Kyousuke in canon; for all that she arrived in the nick of time to save Madoka from HN Elly, she made her decision for Kyousuke. It might have been better for her, in canon, if she had been forced to make her wish to save her own or Madoka's life, even if the wish itself had been the same. As you say- it wouldn't have tied everything she had to Kyousuke, even if he'd still benefitted from the wish. I'm a bit curious about how things might have been different, in that case.

Every girl in the main cast has some self-esteem and self-worth issues. Sooo if Sayaka was forced to make a Wish for her own sake, she'd probably keel over from being incompatible with Urobuchi's setting or something. Keel over faster, that is.

I'm not even kidding as much as I'd want to.

Add a couple of parental issues, and the main cast of Puella Magi wouldn't look too out of place in the Entry Plugs of Evangelions.
 
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And then Madoka says "F U Urobuchi" and saves the universe.

Yeah, but how does she do it?
By sacrificing her linear existence and becoming disconnected from the universe at large.
I've always found that scene where Madoka cries while eating and saying that she's happy to be alive a subtle foreshadowing. ( that's probably not true, just my brain making weird connections )

How does Homura go around resolving the problems in the Rebellion, despite Urobuchi having no relation to the movie's scenario?
By sacrificing her friendship with Madoka, declaring herself the most evil person of the universe, and donning a costume no self-respecting sentient being would even consider to look at, much less wear.

Yeah, you can argue that Madoka is making an ultimate sacrifice for the sake of every Magical Girl in the universe, but I cannot get past the little hiccup of her not having to.
She could wish for literally anything, change the laws of the universe itself, so that erasing herself from the universe wouldn't be necessary. She was the literal Deus Ex Machina.
So the result is rather telling.
 
Hah, I get it, you're asking because of your username. :V

Hm. If I can get back into my mindset from when I totally didn't mean to write all that, but ended doing so and staying hours after I was falling asleep on my seat... Let's say the Wish wasn't necessarily to explode anything, and it wasn't supposed to target someone else in particular, but rather it was meant to hurt quite a lot of people, and was made with a lot of self destructive feelings and guilt in mind.

The convoluted thing, in my mind, ended up being how did the meguca not die, which I would summarize as "fortunate circumstances"... which served to underline the terribleness of the Wish made in anger... which lead into more guilt... but I don't feel like actually fleshing this out. :p
Since we're asking questions about Nuke-A-Gurca, Is her spit explosive? 'Cause hilarious combat options ahoy!

It's also the first thing my mind went to when she started talking about throwing fingers as grenades.
 
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We need to discuss the following list with Mami. We will get each other ready to do a good session by having a back-and-forth. It would be best for Sabrina to do a lot of critical listening during dinner, so she can adapt by adding questions that are off of our script. Back Mami up, let her carry the conversation. Our job is to get better understanding, give access to our thinking, while doing our indoctrination tasks. I think focusing on their mortal lives isn't a bad topic, but avoid the stuff leading up to their Wish. That is typically not well. They may not wish to be estranged from their families, and we could help with that. These girls, and lots more after them, are the city we strive for. We are signing their terms of engagement, and defining the effort that they can add to ours.

1. Re-affirm the trust between the new girls and us. This isn't about compulsion, or contracts.
2. Ask about the girl's own vision for the future. Be lighthearted, but pay close attention. Promote the idea of living a complete life as a Magical Girl.
3. Should they not have goals that they can work on tomorrow and the day after, we want them to make some goals right here. Perhaps school, or a favorite mundane occupation they can try out.
4. If that isn't accepted, offer immigrants our agenda to use. We don't compel, but we DO have an interest in how they live from now on. Be honest about that.
5. If we leave a vacuum, and do not establish any leadership, it is the same as inviting chaos. Or worse, inviting gossip and Incubators.


Walpurgisnacht is the Grief elephant in the room. If they aren't frontliners, we need lots of prep and support that isn't strictly combat. As Magical Girls, they might want to indulge the positive sides of their abilities. Stubborn residents might be better off if we got them away before the familiars have at them. In practical terms, we could ask them to learn all about transit in Mitakihara, with a goal of assisting during evacuation. Magical assistance for track workers, or rescuing the rescuers might be possible.
There are maps and documents that we might want detailing the infrastructure we need to protect. That knowledge must become available to us if collateral is happening. Homura never even tried to spare the environment, so she may not have studied this.
We need to survey our waterfront and harbor in detail, as part of the battle I have predicted against Walpurgisnacht, and with a dash of invisibility enchantment they can do it.
We can have them follow up on our leads regarding all Potentials, meeting them in locations away from the schools and becoming contacts. Perhaps we could make it possible for them to search for new Potentials?
They could start part-time jobs to gain experience we need for later expansion plans. As we interface with the wider world deeper roots are better, and we Totally need Spies. Buddying up with people in city government at the bottom level is the advanced level of this.
If Sayaka can enchant a copy of her beastmastery, they might be able to back her up on surveillance duty, turning that into a larger and better network.

Hmm... Combo! If Sayaka could enchant an animal with a specific vision power, then a bird could alert us to unannounced Magical Girls. If the power is able to cause "detect magic" and we could key it as Kirika is able, with a white list, the task is easy! Glowing people, especially jumping around the skyline, are the recognition task. Done.

4D Pocket isn't "impaired," it's just pre-exploit. First things first, we should experiment with load carrying, and volume. Clever use give Sabrina "alchemy" powers. Sudden application of bulk material, that we could spam, is super deceptive. Potentially decisive, even. Water alone is a whole other superpower. Or the ability to scoop out a variable radius of normal matter without any signature, is yet another.


What mika's power?


Being awesome?

Definitely not Air Handler. Certainly something other than Kaze no Kizu. Of course, those air powers would make her a beast in combat.

Huh. I missed this the first time. Mika has a Clear Seed, but she's still continuing to hunt witches regardless. That's good!


Even if she's doing it out of boredom, we need girls to keep hunting witches if we don't want all the normal people to get overrun...
I think the bigger deal is to set up a pipeline where we just come home to a few grief seeds every evening. We won't have time to hunt much, and will perform better during Witch Therapy if someone else was the conquerer before we Clear.

So, we know that we can't teleport via 4D shenanigans, but is the same true for our clones?


4D teleporting ourselves is non-trivial. Tag-team "poor girl's teleportation" of someone else, totally legit right now. We just need to train to handle the jolt. Mami can warp gate us in combat!

I feel like there must be at least some competent psychiatrists in Japan.



Anyway, if we import someone they probably won't speak the language or understand the cultural context, which is going to make it much harder for them to connect with their patients.
There will be useful therapists somewhere, maybe even nearby. We will need to upgrade / re-educate to get enough, but going in knowing that is O.K. Perhaps we can get translation magic? Or esper nekomimi, so foreigners can work in a session below language? The working conditions are more the issue, than raw skill. Incompetent is dangerous, but only a few girls need A and S rank skills. As bad as they are, the problems of Magical Girls started out as normal disease states. Normal treatment can work, within our special limits. Reformatting our city is the way to make the special limits easier to live with. Our Chinese Magical Girl community is going to be HUGE once we get this right.


Oh- another thing. I was watching the first Madoka movie and reading the manga on the airplane on my tablet and I had a thought: When Mami lost her head and Homura had to jump in to save Madoka and Sayaka, you know how Sayaka is all like "give that back, it belongs to Mami" about the grief seed, and Homura is like "that's right. This belongs to a magical girl; you two have no right to it" and whatever? And I feel like I tend to see people reacting like "Homura, that's not how you you get Sayaka and Madoka to not want to contract, that's basically egging them on, how are you expecting that to make them not contract" about how she says it, right? But I had the thought that it's entirely possible, I would perhaps think even likely, that Homura doesn't see it like that, that she thinks this is an entirely reasonable thing to say to stop someone from contracting- because she's thinking about what she would have said to her past self.



Like, from what we see of Moemura, what we get about Homura generally, is that 'high self esteem' is not really on the list of her virtues. And we can pick apart things, in the series and in Rebellion and whatnot, to sort of see the shape of things that Homura isn't really inclined to believe that she deserves anything, whether that's Madoka's friendship, or being saved, or, depending on how you take things, a life generally. It's the sort of thing that tends to come along with stuff like asking permission for everything, no matter how trivial, or being really careful with the things she has she does have and values (e.g. Madoka's friendship or even kindness) because, of course, if she doesn't deserve them than it would be less than nothing for someone to realize that and renege on them or take them away and she wouldn't really even be surprised. Hurt, maybe, but not surprised. Or it comes with "I'mma just do whatever because fuck hell, I don't matter, and even wanting anything is selfish, so if I'm selfish for wanting things, I'mma go ahead and be selfish about things now that I have the ability to be", in somewhat the style of the end of Rebellion* (reasoning that I absolutely suspect that Akuma Homura would apply to absolutely trivial things such as **gasp** jaywalking, truly the most devilish of sins, worthy of the absolute fiery pits of hell!).

* my thoughts on Rebellion being a complex mess that this is a highly incomplete soundbite of.



My point being that I would nearly bet money that, in another lifetime, if Homura had been offered a contract (without any Madoka-related impetus) but was indecisive about her wish, and a meguca who seemed to have a handle on things went and told her "This [a grief seed] belongs to a magical girl; you have no right to it", well I'd bet that she'd have taken it as 'you don't have any right to be a magical girl' and it would have discouraged her. Because it would have reminded her, validated the thought, that she doesn't have what it takes to be meguca, doesn't deserve to be meguca. And it would have also said to her, 'you are not wanted here, by me, to be a magical girl; you are not wanted here at all, and I am discarding you'. And it's an awful thing to say with that intent to Sayaka and Madoka, but it fits with Homura's "say alarmingly drastic things in order to provoke a strong response, because it's better to be unhappy than to be dead of Witches or Witching" thing. It's just, if this is the case, then Homura can't even conceive of the idea that someone could value themselves enough to take "that belongs to a magical girl; you have no right to it" as a challenge to become a magical girl as opposed to something pushing them away from the job by denigrating their worth for it.



And I dunno, I may be entirely off, since it's also just as much the sort of sentence that could be meant to warn someone off in the most immediate sense (i.e. 'this world is dangerous and you aren't a part of it, drop it and leave') without considering the other implications fully. And maybe people have considered this idea before. I dunno, it was a thought that was interesting when I realized it, is all. Not, er... fully certain how topical it might be here aside from our general analysis of how to think about interactions with our Homura...

I would not want to discount "line is stolen from Sword Fetish historical action movies." If one wanted to be concussively blunt and scary, many shorter phrases are more effective.
 
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Whats the plan for walpugy anyway?

Masterspark it with real lasers powered by a full clear seed charge?

Just got to shoot it while its still at sea or something
IMHO, this is part of the goal. We also have three witch-destroying specialists so far, two available and one we could negotiate with. There is a whole involved scenario I would like you to consider, using big military ordinance for field control against Walpurgisnacht. There is no reward to staging a fair fight. Preventing despair and economic damage in Mitakihara is very good for our goals.
 
I would not want to discount "line is stolen from Sword Fetish historical action movies." If one wanted to be concussively blunt and scary, many shorter phrases are more effective.

Oh, certainly a possibility, yeah. It's definitely a line that could very much read as either "there are lots of issues bound up in why I thought this was a good idea" or "hopefully this sounds appropriately threatening, I heard something like it somewhere else". Or even "I need something angry or scathing to say and this was the first thing that came out of my mouth, I didn't think about it too hard". It's mostly just how, at least in the given translations I've seen, it definitely comes across as an impressively poor way to to discourage contracting instead of goad someone into it. Maybe it comes across differently in Japanese- and there are several lines in the series I'd be curious to ask that about- and okay, I'm not fully sure myself what a significantly better answer would have been there, but if Homura has ever had any variation of that conversation before, then it feels like something she'd have thought through at least a little, and had a chance to find literally anything else to say that doesn't potentially come across as a challenge, unless Homura doesn't think that's how it comes across.

**shrug** Plenty of reasons there could be for a line as dubious as that one, it merely seemed notable to me that I hadn't seen the one I posted considered before. Doesn't mean it hasn't been, doesn't mean it's quite right, just that it's a possibility that I find interesting to think about.
 
[X] Before dinner:
-[X] Help cook, simultaneously prepare Mami to lead the discussion. Points:
--[X] Re-affirm the trust between the new girls and us. This isn't about compulsion, or contracts.
---[X] Cleaning is free. Settling them in town is free. If they still feel obligation, help the next girl for us.
--[X] We want to help more. Ask about each girl's own vision for the future. Be lighthearted, but pay close attention.
--[X] Promote the idea of living a complete life as a Magical Girl.
--[X] Should they not have goals that they can work on tomorrow and the day after, we want them to make some goals right here.
---[X] Perhaps school, or a favorite mundane occupation they can try out.
--[X] If that isn't accepted, offer immigrants our agenda to use.
---[X] We don't compel, but we DO have an interest in how they live from now on. Be honest about that.
--[X] Schedule to introduce them to all our neighbors
--[X] If we leave a vacuum, and do not establish any leadership, it is the same as inviting chaos. Or worse, inviting gossip and Incubators.

-[X] Telepathy Yuma. Gossip about the Kyousaya training.

[X] Dinner and Conversation, follow Mami, as appropriate add:

-[X] Be friendly, try to be personal and relaxed.
--[X] Light and positive, try to get to know each other. Inquire about pre-magi life, favorite things, pop culture.
--[X] Beware infohazards, avoid stressful responses
--[X] Ask about their powers. Gush over Mami.
--[X] Talk about your goals.
---[X] Explain future real and foreseen problems, and how they'll affect everyone.
---[X] Without pressuring them: Ask if they would help, not necessarily immediately or in a big way; every bit of help is appreciated.
--[X] Offer small ways they could help:
-----[X] Civilian assistance / evacuation
-----[X] Survey / exploration / logistics / errands for WPN
-----[X] If no school, part time work selected to gain access and skills
-----[X] Help Sayaka with animal patrol
-----[X] Magical/Enchantment research. Help Kirika
-----[X] Building our contacts by helping the community - find problems!
What are we forgetting? I amended Onmur's version, fix it more, please.
 
Oh, certainly a possibility, yeah. It's definitely a line that could very much read as either "there are lots of issues bound up in why I thought this was a good idea" or "hopefully this sounds appropriately threatening, I heard something like it somewhere else". Or even "I need something angry or scathing to say and this was the first thing that came out of my mouth, I didn't think about it too hard". It's mostly just how, at least in the given translations I've seen, it definitely comes across as an impressively poor way to to discourage contracting instead of goad someone into it. Maybe it comes across differently in Japanese- and there are several lines in the series I'd be curious to ask that about- and okay, I'm not fully sure myself what a significantly better answer would have been there, but if Homura has ever had any variation of that conversation before, then it feels like something she'd have thought through at least a little, and had a chance to find literally anything else to say that doesn't potentially come across as a challenge, unless Homura doesn't think that's how it comes across.

**shrug** Plenty of reasons there could be for a line as dubious as that one, it merely seemed notable to me that I hadn't seen the one I posted considered before. Doesn't mean it hasn't been, doesn't mean it's quite right, just that it's a possibility that I find interesting to think about.
You are not wrong at all. Homura has those feelings. Further, she expects way less emotion from others, also due to her distorted PTSD viewpoint.

I'm just going by the script. When she blocks the Kyouko - Sayaka fight, her "I am an ally of reason" line is way too stage-drama. It isn't normal speech at all. So, I'm going with this as Urobuchi's motif for her declarative mode. I think it's a tick of Urobuchi, done to create the scene, and not a further exploration of Homura. Unless she watches all the old sword movies?
 
Unless she watches all the old sword movies?

With the time she spent in the hospital, I'd not be surprised if she'd immersed herself in some kind of moderately escapist media. Not to mention- I dunno about everyone else, but when I'm placed in a time of difficult social, it's not uncommon for me to spit out verbatim quotes from other sources that seem appropriate. So, that's at least a possibility. At any rate, I don't intend to debate or head into the discussion of Homura's dialogue as a whole, nor the "I am an ally of reason" line specifically; I don't have any particular thoughts about the latter, and the former would just have me projecting onto everything. With respect to the specific dialogue I was talking about, again, there are likely multiple both Watsonian and Doylist ways to interpret the line, and my interest was mostly exploring the fact that it seems upon initial inspection to be a spectacularly poor word choice for a reply, and a possible reason for it that I'd not come across before.
 
Panting

I've finally read through the thread updates!

Sweats profusely

...I'm not even gonna contribute anything.

Despair
 
Panting

I've finally read through the thread updates!

Sweats profusely

...I'm not even gonna contribute anything.

Despair
Fresh Meat!

...Ahem, Don't worry about contributing too much, as long as you remain on-topic you're welcome. Heck, even if you digress a bit its fine. And if you ever notice something wrong or missing with the votes, don't be afraid to speak up. Even little details can help a lot.
 
2. Ask about the girl's own vision for the future. Be lighthearted, but pay close attention. Promote the idea of living a complete life as a Magical Girl.
Why? It's easy for us because Sabrina doesn't have a past, but other girls may have their own dreams of things to do which may even be compatible with being a magical girl. (What if Mami decided to give a try on becoming an idol, for example?)

Also, I don't get how that is compatible with proposing "school, or a favorite mundane occupation they can try out" as written in the next post.

[] Before dinner:
-[] Help cook, simultaneously prepare Mami to lead the discussion. Points:
--[] Re-affirm the trust between the new girls and us. This isn't about compulsion, or contracts.
---[] Cleaning is free. Settling them in town is free. If they still feel obligation, help the next girl for us.
--[] We want to help more. Ask about each girl's own vision for the future. Be lighthearted, but pay close attention.
...
On the vote itself, for me it seems like wanting to micromanaging the rest of their lives here. Personally I'd prefer to get a more hands-off approach as Sabrina is already spreading herself too thin.

(or maybe it's the size of the vote: if the preparation talk with Mami is good enough the part to the dinner itself should be in main points only; also, isn't Mami supposed to lead the conversation at dinner?)

...I'm not even gonna contribute anything.

Despair
Fresh meat!

(Despair?)
*gives WanderingTwix a grief seed* Never mind WanderingTwix's profile says Male
 
(Despair?)
*gives WanderingTwix a grief seed* Never mind WanderingTwix's profile says Male
Come now, we can do better than that. At least clear it up a bit.
*applies polish until the seed is nearly see-through*
As for ye, Wanderer, come in, sit down, have a rest at the Brinabar. No need to speak up, just sit back and watch the debates on the floor.
Possibly poke your head into the looking glass over there. Or marvel at the Catgirl's Hourglass.
 
Point Insertion pt. 16
You don't let go of Mami, smiling at her instead. You regret the way some things have gone. You regret the way you'd broken the news to her, the way you broke her. You could have done better, and you should have done better. But you don't regret this.

You don't regret your decision to be her friend. You don't regret being with her.

"Sabrina?" Mami asks.

"Just thinking," you say, and pull her into a hug. "I'm lucky to know you."

"I'm luckier to know you," Mami mumbles into your shoulder, her arms warm and tight around your waist.

"I know you think so," you say, pulling back and smiling at her. "I disagree. So let's just leave it at that, and agree we're both really lucky to have each other?"

"I... Alright." She takes a breath, and smiles at you. A touch wan, but warm and adoring. "Shall we start preparing for our guests?"

"Yeah," you say. "Let's."

You hook your arm through Mami's, and head to the kitchen, splitting up at the door. Mami raids the kitchen for ingredients, and you start getting all the dishes and pots and pans ready, Grief setting a dozen different items dancing through the air. You shoot Mami a grin - if you're going to do this in time, then you're going to need the time.

Mami smiles back, and starts setting out food on the countertop. "Mackerel, we can grill that, shrimp for sushi? We have some fresh tuna we can make sashimi with."

"Chicken, hmm," you say, glancing over at the counter. "Simmer that with the tofu for one of the courses. Vegetables... Soup?"

"Vegetable soup. Miso soup, too," Mami agrees, stepping past you to grab the chopping board.

"I'll chop," you say, stopping her with a hand on her wrist. "You're better than me for the actual cooking, I'll handle the labour."

"You're just as good-" Mami protests, and smiles at you. "-but I know you'll disagree."

You huff, and grin right back. "Besides." You spread your hands demonstratively, Grief fanning out with the motion into razor sharp blades.

"Make sure it's clean!" Mami says, laughing.

You fall into an easy rhythm with Mami - she does in fact let you take the grunt work, starting the ricecooker, chopping vegetables and meat. Mami sets the soup on the two inner stoveheads and gives you a smile, and you take over with Grief. And since you don't actually have to reach over to stir, Mami mans the stove with two pans. One with a lightly seasoned mackerel sizzling away and another to brown some chicken, and both smelling absolutely heavenly.

"Hey, Yuma!" you call out telepathically as you work. "How's it going?"

"Miss Sayaka told Yuma not to say anything to you!" Yuma says. "Or else she wouldn't give Yuma candy!"

"... really?" you say. Huh. Candy.

"Big sis hit her for that, and took away the candy," Yuma says, mental voice lowering to a conspiratorial whisper. "But big sis shared the candy with Yuma and Miss Sayaka! So Yuma can tell you."

"Ah, that's good!" you say, giving the vegetables a contemplative look. Nice, even cuts, but then you wouldn't expect anything less of yourself. Not when you're using Grief. You send all of it gliding over the pot, and lower it in gently. "What news do you have for me?"

"Big sis was really surprised at how much Miss Sayaka has improved!" Yuma tells you. "She wants to know what you're feeding her. Can Yuma have some?"

"A steady stream of powers and magic," you say, giving Mami a smile as you walk past her to the cupboard. "I'm sure you're no slouch yourself, at this point."

"Yuma beat Sayaka in the spar earlier!" Yuma says. "Miss Sayaka wasn't expecting Yuma to fight so hard."

"Oof, that's got to be a blow to the ego," you say. "Well done, Yuma!"

"Thank you!" Yuma says. "Big sis and Miss Sayaka are sparring now, no powers. Big sis said, since Miss Sayaka liked the clones so much, she needs to be better with them."

"Makes sense to me," you agree. "Kyouko's a good teacher, honestly."

"Big sis is big sis!" Yuma says happily.

"Hah, well, keep me updated if anything interesting happens?" you say.

"Yuma can do that!" Yuma says. "Will you be coming next time?"

"I should be," you say. "See you later, Yuma!"

"Bye-bye!" Yuma chirps.

Mami gives you an inquisitive look as you dart past her, reaching for the cupboard.

"Checking on Sayaka," you tell Mami, fishing a package of seaweed sheets from the cupboard. "Sushi, right?"

"Mmhm!" Mami says, smiling at you. "Ah, don't forget to put the sashimi into the fridge."

"Whoops, good point," you say, tucking the seaweed under your shoulder and ferrying the sliced fish to the fridge. "Where's the wasabi- ah, found it."

"Beef hotpot for the main course," Mami decides. "Could you help me slice the beef? And prepare the mushrooms?"

"Of course," you say, beaming.

The entire apartment smells absolutely, ridiculously good by the time you're done. Yuma's shared a few more pieces of choice gossip, mostly about Sayaka being chased up and down the training area by Kyouko, and you're pleased that everything seems to be going well on that front. And Mami even took the time to create decorations out of ribbons, little ribbon flowers and ornaments while you painstakingly formed food into shapes.

You flop on the couch with Mami. "Do you... do you think we may have overdone it?" you say, toying with the pendant around your neck.

Mami giggles, nestling comfortably under your arm. "Maybe a bit."

"Ah, well," you say, reaching for the television remote. It goes to some gameshow or another, but really, it's just there to provide a bit of white noise while you wait.

"Mmmnm," Mami mumbles, cuddling closer.

It isn't too much later when you feel two presences enter your sphere of detection. "They're here."

"Oh!" Mami says, stirring. You tighten your arms around her waist.

"Not here here, they're still at the ground floor," you say. "But they'll be here soon."

"Oh," Mami says, and smiles. "Alright, then. Is everything still warm?"

"Yup," you say. You wait patiently as they take the elevator, and wait as they walk down the corridor looking for your apartment. And then-

"There we are!" Mami says, hopping to her feet at the sound of the doorbell.

You open the door together to greet the Shiogama girls. Saito Akemi, with her sharp features and eyes of dark pink, is the first to step forward. She bows, wavy brown hair hanging like a curtain around her face.

Noriko -and there's only one of her for now- bows too, a touch belatedly. Her hair's a solid mass of vivid green drawn back into a ponytail, with just a few yellow streaks peaking through.

"Thank you for inviting us, Miss Tomoe, Miss Sabrina," Akemi says, a bit too loud, a bit too nervous.

"There's no need for that," Mami says. "Please, come in."

They straighten, and let Mami usher them inside. Both of them seem to have dressed up a bit, both in neat, matching dresses. They look around the room, apparently curious.

"Welcome," you say, smiling at them. "Glad you could make it. Dinner'll be just a few minutes, OK? Go ahead and take a seat."

You bustle off to the kitchen, and back with the first few courses. A proper kaiseki has a dozen or so courses, half of them bite-sized, all of them prepared with fresh-as-in-collected-the-very-same-day-fresh, but by mutual agreement with Mami that it would take too long, you serve multiple dishes at once.

"Itadakimasu!" you all chorus. The two Shiogama girls sit opposite to you and Mami, digging in tentatively.

You watch as they take their first bites, and give Mami a proud smile at their widening eyes.

"It's good," Noriko murmurs.

You pop the shrimp appetizer into your mouth and nudge Mami, still smiling.

"Thank you, Miss Watanabe," Mami says. She's already on the sashimi. "But really, this isn't a formal dinner. Please, there's no need to stand on ceremony."

"Yeah," you say, smiling. "Really, we just want to get to know you."

"It's appreciated," Noriko says, chopsticks moving daintily. "In truth, there's not much to tell that... you don't already know."

Her expression falls, Akemi shifting a little closer.

"Well... we don't really know each other, right?" you say, smiling gently. "So, um... I'm Sabrina, as you know. Vee Sabrina, on paper, but the surname is a bit of a weird thing. My powers are Grief control, and I enjoy spending time with Mami and my other friends, and helping people."

Mami blushes, and you beam at her.

The Shiogama girls exchange a look before Noriko speaks. "T-then... I'm Watanabe Noriko," she says. "Um... my power is that I have a second body? It's very useful. Uh, well, I like Akemi, and I sculpt a bit, and, ah, I like video games. Calligraphy, too."

"And I'm Saito Akemi. And I like my girlfriend Noriko! Uh... my power is luck. It's, um, mostly passive," Akemi says, and smiles sheepishly. "I suppose it might be one of the reasons we're here? Um... yes, I like Noriko, I like experiencing new things, and... I like reading."

She elbows Noriko. "You like reading too," she says.

Noriko's smile falters a little. "I do," she says quietly. Her eyes flicker up to meet yours. "We were all in the book club... before. It's how we met."

"Do you want to talk about her?" Mami asks, her tone soft and gentle. "It's alright if you don't."

"I... we'd rather not," Akemi says. Noriko picks at her sashimi, before picking it up and cramming the entire portion into her mouth, followed by the wasabi paste.

"This is good!" Noriko says. There's just a hair of an edge warbling under her bright, cheery tone. "Is this fresh?"

"Yep!" you say, smiling. If she wants to change the topic, you're perfectly willing to go with it. "Freshly cut about... er, about an hour ago. And that's fresh wasabi, too."

"Mmmmm," Noriko says. "It's excellent! You and Miss Tomoe should open a restaurant."

"Honestly, I'm not convinced Mami's power isn't cooking," you say, giving Mami a fond look. "Magic's just something you picked up on the side, right, Mami?"

Mami nods gravely. "Alas, you've revealed my secret," she says, a hint of a smile curling her lips.

"Well, of course," you say, grinning. "How could I ever let such majesty be hidden away?"

Mami blushes, smacking your shoulder lightly. You grin at her, and take the moment to pop the last of your sushi into your mouth.

"Can't be better than my power," Akemi says after a moment.

"Excuse me?" you say, and grin at her.

"My power is the reason we're here, after all," Akemi says. She holds out one hand, fingers spread. "If it weren't for that, then we wouldn't be meeting the Tomoe Mami."

"... that's a fair point, but Mami's still better," you say, just as firmly. You stand, reaching across the table. "Anyway, everyone's done with the first few courses, so let me get your dishes..."

You grab everyone's dishes, some of them floating on Grief. When you return from the kitchen, you're bearing the main courses - a small bowl of vegetable soup as a palate cleanser, beef and mushroom and vegetable seasoned and simmered to perfection, miso and tofu soup...

"That smells amazing," Akemi says, sitting up and peering at the dishes as you set them up. This is going to be so much washing later.

"Thank you," Mami says, smiling. You take your seat beside her, and you all start digging in.

"So do you have anything in mind for what you want to do, Miss Saito, Miss Watanabe?" you ask, sipping gently from your bowl of soup.

"Not really," Akemi says, shaking her head. "Do... do you have something in mind for us?"

"We do not," you say firmly.

"We've invited you here because you need somewhere to live, not because we want something from you. But..." Mami adds, smiling gently and glancing at you. "There are things you should know."

"I promise you that we have no intention of making you fight, or make payments or anything," you say. "I swear it. But as Mami says, there are complications. I... well, I'm willing to go into it now, but the food will get cold. Would you rather hear it now, or later?"

"I..." Noriko exchanges a look with Akemi before clearing her throat and looking up. "We appreciate that, Miss Tomoe, Miss Sabrina. If it's alright, we'd rather go into the details after dinner?"

Akemi essays a weak smile. "It would be a shame to waste your efforts cooking."

"That's not a problem," you say, smiling back. Your hand finds Mami's under the table, and she squeezes gently. You switch your chopsticks to your other hand, fumbling before using Grief to stabilize them.

"Miss Saito, Miss Watanabe, you mentioned you were in the book club?" Mami breaks the silence with a smile. "Have you any good book recommendations?"

"Ah... well, we've... not been in school," Akemi says. "But we've been reading the Haruhi Suzumiya series again! A new novel is being released soon."

"Oooh," you say, and snicker. "Did you watch the anime?"

Noriko cringes, chopsticks freezing midair. "Don't talk to me about the Endless Eight."

An anime to show Homura sometime between the sun burning out and never, really, but you can definitely talk about it. Especially the decision to reanimate and revoice the exact same episode eight times in a row to show the effects of a timeloop.

"Aw, it wasn't so bad," you say, grinning. "Right, Mami?"

"I only watched it after the fact," Mami says. "It wasn't too bad."

"Noriko was watching it as it aired," Akemi says. "Made me watch it, too. Misato..." Her smile fades.

Noriko takes a deep breath. "We all watched it together," she says. "It was agonizing."

"It was probably worse for Nagato, who had to go through it, uh... fifteen thousand times," you say, grinning. "I mean it was honestly a really clever gimmick."

"Fifteen thousand, five hundred and thirty two. Clever doesn't mean good!" Akemi protests.

"I always thought it was because of a last minute studio decision to turn Disappearance into a movie," Noriko says. "Seven episodes would have been more than enough to cover it, but then the decision would have left them searching for filler."

You shrug, mouth full of beef and mushrooms. Delicious, delicious mushrooms.

"Mmmrmph," you say, swallowing. "Oh, since we're on the subject of books... or were, really, but before I forget, I've got a book recommendation. Upcoming novel, The Sky of Seven Stars. A friend of ours wrote it, so I'm obliged to plug it."

"I think I've heard about it," Akemi says, frowning. "Or... I saw an ad for it somewhere? I'll keep an eye out!"

"Let me know if you spot it in the wild," you say. "Because now that I'm telling you this, I just realised I have no idea when it's actually going to be in the bookstores."

Mami giggles faintly, bumping against you. You spend the rest of dinner with amiable, light chatter, letting the topics ramble on. You watch them relax, but it's clear enough to you that they're still grieving, the kind of deep, pervasive loss that cut deep and would probably stay with them forever.

Finally, though, dinner finishes with dessert, ice cream topped with fruit. The clinking of utensils against dishes stills, and an almost expectant silence falls.

"So," you say, stirring your spoon through the remains of your ice cream. Noriko and Akemi sit up straighter, expectant and worried. "The elephant in the room."

"Just tell them, Sabrina," Mami murmurs to you, and looks across the table. "There's no easy way to break this news, I'm afraid."

"The first, big thing is Walpurgisnacht," you say. "Do you know what she is?"

They both shake their heads.

"The Queen of Witches," you say, setting your spoon down. "A Witch big enough, powerful enough, to exist without a Barrier. It is due. Here. In Mitakihara, on the night of Walpurgis. Thirtieth of April."

You look up. Their faces are slowly draining of colour as you meet their eyes. "I do not expect you to fight. We do not want you to fight if you don't want to. You've just moved here, and you are under no obligation to defend this city."

"But Walpurgisnacht is coming to Mitakihara," Mami says. "You'll have to evacuate, and... we're going to win, but the city is most likely going to be damaged."

"Mm," you say, and smile at them. "The real issue is that the damage is probably going to be on par with a hurricane hitting. Reconstruction will probably take a while, but the good news is that we're already starting to arrange for that."

"Oh," Noriko says, sounding faint.

"We've got it handled," you say, smiling. "Or we will have, by that time. It's just going to take time."

You're leaving out Feathers, of course, but one thing at a time, one shock at a time. Akemi reaches out to Noriko for support, grabbing her hand. And you can tell they're speaking to each other by telepathy. You let them, smiling softly at Mami as you wait. They need the time to process it, and so you let them have the time. Mami smiles back, and cuddles closer.

"You..." Noriko breaks the silence. "You said Walpurgisnacht was the first thing?" She stumbles over the unfamiliar word.

"The second thing isn't nearly as earthshaking," you say with a smile. "Just that... well, with my powers, I can help a lot of magical girls, and I intend to. We're expecting quite a few more immigrants to Mitakihara City - I think I did mention that you might be getting roommates, right?"

"You did," Akemi says. "That's..." She smiles weakly. "That's a lot more manageable, as far as bad news goes."

"I'm sorry," you say. "I really don't know if there's an easy way to break the news of a giant, city-destroying Witch. Aaaaaaaanyway, I have to say - the worst case, on the topic of incoming magical girls, would be girls who specifically want to cause trouble."

"Because... of you," Noriko guesses. "I've never heard of anything like your magic existing before."

"It hasn't," you say. "And I'm expecting that people will want to have that for themselves."

"They can't have you," Mami says, fingers tightening around yours. You smile at her, squeezing back.

"I know," you say. "This is my home. Here, with you." You smile at her, and turn your attention to the Shiogama girls. "Still, that's what we can expect, in the coming weeks."

They both nod wordlessly.

"I would..." you purse your lips, and start again. "I completely understand if you don't feel up to doing much. I understand, and I want you to take as much time as you need to settle in and recover. But there are a few things I could ask for your help with, if you're willing?"

"What do you need?" Akemi says.

"We don't have as much time for Witch hunting as we used to," you say, and hurry onward as you see their expressions fall. "And I'm not asking you to fight them! But if you're willing, helping to locate and tell us about them would be enormously helpful. And... well, as I said. We're expecting refugees. If you were willing to help us manage them, it would be an amazing help."

Akemi exchanges a glance with Noriko. "I think... I think we could do that," she says quietly.

[] Akemi and Noriko
- [] What else do you want to talk to them about?
[] After dinner activities
- [] Invite them to do something?
- [] See them off
[] Write-in (word count limit: 150 words)


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Big sis said, since Miss Sayaka liked the clones so much, she needs to be better with them."

Huh. Kyouko took clones better then I expected, given her potential issues with them. I was worried that we hadn't warned Sayaka about that...

Well. Kyouko can certainly give Sayaka some advice on how to use clones as decoys and distractions in combat.

"Yuma beat Sayaka in the spar earlier!" Yuma says. "Miss Sayaka wasn't expecting Yuma to fight so hard."

Also, maximum kek.

Their faces are slowly draining of colour as you meet their eyes. "I do not expect you to fight. We do not want you to fight if you don't want to. You've just moved here, and you are under no obligation to defend this city."

Good, we made that clear.

"We don't have as much time for Witch hunting as we used to," you say, and hurry ownward as you see their expressions fall.

Mm. A witch killed their friend. It looks like they're very much not ready to go back to that, as a result. We might want to apologize for that.

We're expecting refugees. If you were willing to help us manage them, it would be an amazing help."

Akemi exchanges a glance with Noriko. "I think... I think we could do that," she says quietly.

That will be very helpful. Especially with passive luck magic helping them in their approach.

Also, on a side note: Passive luck magic is hilariously useful. If they're okay with sharing it, then we'd be very happy to compensate them for literal good luck charms, or for letting Sayaka copy the power.

It does seem like it's luck manipulation of the "personally avoid ill effects, those close to you can still suffer", though, so we should keep that in mind.

Is there any reason not to give them a Clear Seed?
 
Since we're asking questions about Nuke-A-Gurca, Is her spit explosive? 'Cause hilarious combat options ahoy!

It's also the first thing my mind went to when she started talking about throwing fingers as grenades.
Not quite as explosive as the more solid parts of her body.

One idea I had while pondering about applications of self exploding powers was about her learning to make magically shaped explosions and managing to grab onto her enemies and making her palm's outer layer of skin explode.

"Big sis is big sis!" Yuma says happily.
[Q] Tell Yuma she should join the tautology club.
-[Q] Explain: The tautology club is the tautology club.

... Actually, this might not be a joke vote.

You open the door together to greet the Shiogama girls. Saito Akemi, with her sharp features and eyes of dark pink, is the first to step forward. She bows, wavy brown hair hanging like a curtain around her face.

Noriko -and there's only one of her for now- bows too, a touch belatedly. Her hair's a solid mass of vivid green drawn back into a ponytail, with just a few yellow streaks peaking through=.
Information had been added to the planner!

So Noriko can fuse both her bodies back into one and split at will? Nice.


The Shiogama girls exchange a look before Noriko speaks. "T-then... I'm Watanabe Noriko," she says. "Um... my power is that I have a second body? It's very useful. Uh, well, I like Akemi, and I sculpt a bit, and, ah, I like video games. Calligraphy, too."

"And I'm Saito Akemi. And I like my girlfriend Noriko! Uh... my power is luck. It's, um, mostly passive," Akemi says, and smiles sheepishly. "I suppose it might be one of the reasons we're here? Um... yes, I like Noriko, I like experiencing new things, and... I like reading."

She elbows Noriko. "You like reading too," she says.

Noriko's smile falters a little. "I do," she says quietly. Her eyes flicker up to meet yours. "We were all in the book club... before. It's how we met."
Hm. I want to add this bit about their hobbies somewhere in the planner. Gonna have to make space.

Also, a meguca who wished to be two people and a meguca who wished for good luck? Holy crap, these are the real smart gucas, much better gucas than we are.

I mean, good luck powers are literally limited by your Potential, but it's one of those OP OP ideas. You don't know what to wish for so just wish to win. :p

"Can't be better than my power," Akemi says after a moment.
She knows it, too.

[Q] Headpats.
 
If I am not mistaken, then we already gave them one when they moved in.
You are mistaken. :p

We should offer and give them a Clear Seed. Uh, we didn't even mention them, I think. I wonder if they'll consider up and leaving once they have one. Still should offer, they seem like good girls?

So first things to bring up, Clear Seed and Sayaka copying their powers if they'll allow it?
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Jul 14, 2018 at 4:49 AM, finished with 140621 posts and 5 votes.

  • [X] Take a mental step back. Offer tea?
    -[X] You don't want to take advantadge of an unfair situation.
    -[X] They have no obligation to help. You're looking for volunteers. Ask them to think it over.
    -[X] That said:
    --[X] Offer a Clear Seed. Standard disclaimer.
    --[X] Explain and ask if they'd mind Sayaka copying their powers.
    [X] Try to lighten up the atmosphere before they go.
    -[X] Chat a while, invite them to hang out any time, promise to introduce them to everyone.
    -[X] Idea: Enchantment + infinite magic. Could Akemi enchant real luck charms?
    [X] Afterwards
    [X] Call Nagisa. Check how she's doing, and try to set up another visit.
    [X] Make a Grief Enchantment Enhancer; use it to try making Speckled Enchantments:
    -[X] Perception: Sense enhancers (Grief, magical, normal), lie detector.
    -[X] Defense: Against projectiles, extreme light and sound, mental and soul magics, harmful effects in general.
    -[X] Utility: Toggleable privacy field, ability enhancers (combat, multitasking, control, magic).
    [X] Test successful Speckled Enchantments for witchy feeling, duration, and effectiveness. Drop those with marginal value.
    [x] Give them a clear seed. Guca love clear seeds.
    [x] Ask if Sayaka can copy their powers
    [x] The one with Nagisa
 
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