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Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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... have you been in the catnip again?
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Noooooooooooooo... O-of course not, nyah... Why would you think that?
Script Mak3r
(Verified Sun God) (Verified Feathers)
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inb4 the tsundere objects to this, esp. with arguments such as "that was an April Fool's joke"
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
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On a Rail pt. 31
She's thinking about it. You've gotten through to her, even if just the slightest bit, and that's enough to kindle a spark of hope in your chest.
"That's true," you agree. "You can't just... change yourself by thinking it. But... Hm."
You release Mami's hair, allowing it to uncoil back into its usual drill shape. Instead, you find her hand. Interlacing your fingers with hers, you give her a quick squeeze. She smiles back at you, a little strained, but happy for you nevertheless.
It's nice.
"Do you have something in mind?" Oriko asks expression returning to its usual polite blankness.
"I..." you chew your lip. "Kind of. I know for a fact that it's possible for powers from a rejected Wish to come back. It's not easy, but it's possible, and generally it doe-"
The realisation strikes you like a bolt from the blue, a thought crystallising in your mind.
"Sabrina?" Mami asks, peering at you.
You shut your mouth with a click. "I... I think I've just had a very important realisation," you say, turning the thought over in your mind and examining it. "Kirika, your... your Wish. What was it?"
"Hm?" The black haired girl blinks at you. "I wished to be someone useful to my Oriko." The seer in question puts her hand on the small of Kirika's back, wrapping her in a gentle hug.
"Yeah... yeah, you did," you say slowly as you think it over. "And it gave you antimagic. Which... yes, is useful to fight other magical girls. Like Homura, or myself. But... antimagic."
"Yes, so?" Kirika says, sounding confused.
"No... well- Oriko, you don't need your powers to be able to help or find the meaning of your life," you say, suddenly sure of your conclusion. "Kirika wanted to help you, and her Wish gave her antimagic."
"I don't see your point," Oriko says.
"No, I-" you wave your hand. "Wishes grant you what you want. They grant you what you want. Kirika wanted to help you, and correct me if I'm wrong, Kirika, but you didn't just want to be Oriko's soldier and fight for her, you wanted to be with her and help her, right?"
"Um, yes," Kirika says. "Duh."
That earns her the slightest hint of a blush from Oriko, which is adorable but besides the point right now.
"Yeah, and... your power will reflect that," you say. Mami squeezes your hand encouragingly. "And I mean - you did help Oriko with your powers, and it's, uh, how do I put this-"
"You're saying that I got antimagic powers when I Wished to help Oriko because it's like, my Wish is trying to tell Oriko she doesn't need her powers to live," Kirika says.
"That's exactly what I'm trying to say," you agree. "It's, agh, magic is subtle like that? Does that make sense?"
"But antimagic is the perfect counter in combat," Oriko points out. "Why wouldn't Kirika have gotten it?"
"As opposed to, say, mind control," you counter. "And besides, Kirika Wished for you. And she got... basically magic's great hint to you."
"I... see," Oriko says. Her eyes are wide. Genuinely surprised for perhaps the first time since you'd met her. "I don't know. My vision..."
"Oriko..." you chide. Mami closes her other hand on top of yours, lacing her fingers through.
"I know," she says, a hint of exasperation creeping into her voice. "Your confidence in our Wishes cuts both ways. Why would I be granted my visions if not to see?"
"Well, yes, you are, but as I've established, I think you're seeing -or rather looking at- the wrong thing," you counter. "Which segues nicely into what I want to say, anyway. Oriko, please? Just... please. Try to find happiness for yourself. I know. It's hard. But... hey. Try?"
"I suppose I must," Oriko says, with a wry smirk.
You break out into a grin. That's more progress than you've ever gotten. "Good," you say emphatically. "That's all I can ask for. Is there anything we can get you? Books, movies, games?"
"We have the internet," Kirika pipes up, squirming around to face you properly. "Yaarrrr~" She wiggles her fingers at you.
"Oh, sure, but it's not the same, and I'm sure there are things you want," you say.
"Some fresh groceries would be nice," Oriko says, settling back into the sofa. She seems mildly distracted, attention darting between you and Kirika.
"Chocolate!" Kirika chirps, grinning at you. "Uh, cooking chocolate, too, right, Oriko?"
"Uh, yes. Cooking chocolate, thank you for the reminder, dear," Oriko says.
"Right. Sure you don't want any games or anything?" you ask, starting to get to your feet.
"No, we have enough entertainment," Oriko says.
"Yup!" Kirika says, hopping to her feet.
"Right, then," you say, turning to give Mami a hand up. "I... well. Do try, Oriko? Please?"
The seer shrugs with one shoulder. "I can't make any promises."
"Trying is enough," you say.
She dips her head in acquiescence. "Dear, would you see them out?"
"Sure," Kirika says with a bright grin as she hops lightly to her feet.
"Right," you say. You dissolve the privacy field with a thought, relaxing as the ever-present pressure fades from your senses. Then again, you'd managed to not think about it for the entire time, really.
Mami gives you a smile, bumping her shoulder against yours, and with a laugh, you sling your arm around her waist. You say your goodbyes to Oriko, and head out.
"Hey, Sabrina?" Kirika pauses at the glass door.
"Mm?" you ask, turning to face her.
"'m not stupid," Kirika says, twiddling her fingers together. "You think that Oriko's purpose in life is me?"
"Well..." you say. "Pretty much, yeah."
Kirika blushes, hard. "Right. Right. Gotcha," she says.
"You remember what I said, right?" you ask. "She can be wrong. She is wrong about wanting to die, and... I think your magic is proof that she is. Her magic says one thing, and your magic says that you shouldn't listen to it."
"Get her to be happy, to live, to love," Kirika says, a luminescent, distant smile on her face. "Yeah, I remember. It's... hard. I forget how to say no to her."
"Mm," you agree. "Still... I'll ask from you the same thing I asked from Oriko. Try? Please?"
Kirika grins fiercely, little fang protruding. "Yeah, I can do that. I mean, I know I said that last time too, but like, you know what I mean," she says. "Thanks, 'brina. Though, uh..."
You raise an eyebrow at her fidgeting. "Yeah?"
"About letting us out, sometime?" Kirika asks, rubbing her lip.
[] Write-in
I'll be honest - I've been sitting on and giggling about the anti-magic thing for literally years at this point. Granted, the schedule got brought up a fair bit, but still!
"That's true," you agree. "You can't just... change yourself by thinking it. But... Hm."
You release Mami's hair, allowing it to uncoil back into its usual drill shape. Instead, you find her hand. Interlacing your fingers with hers, you give her a quick squeeze. She smiles back at you, a little strained, but happy for you nevertheless.
It's nice.
"Do you have something in mind?" Oriko asks expression returning to its usual polite blankness.
"I..." you chew your lip. "Kind of. I know for a fact that it's possible for powers from a rejected Wish to come back. It's not easy, but it's possible, and generally it doe-"
The realisation strikes you like a bolt from the blue, a thought crystallising in your mind.
"Sabrina?" Mami asks, peering at you.
You shut your mouth with a click. "I... I think I've just had a very important realisation," you say, turning the thought over in your mind and examining it. "Kirika, your... your Wish. What was it?"
"Hm?" The black haired girl blinks at you. "I wished to be someone useful to my Oriko." The seer in question puts her hand on the small of Kirika's back, wrapping her in a gentle hug.
"Yeah... yeah, you did," you say slowly as you think it over. "And it gave you antimagic. Which... yes, is useful to fight other magical girls. Like Homura, or myself. But... antimagic."
"Yes, so?" Kirika says, sounding confused.
"No... well- Oriko, you don't need your powers to be able to help or find the meaning of your life," you say, suddenly sure of your conclusion. "Kirika wanted to help you, and her Wish gave her antimagic."
"I don't see your point," Oriko says.
"No, I-" you wave your hand. "Wishes grant you what you want. They grant you what you want. Kirika wanted to help you, and correct me if I'm wrong, Kirika, but you didn't just want to be Oriko's soldier and fight for her, you wanted to be with her and help her, right?"
"Um, yes," Kirika says. "Duh."
That earns her the slightest hint of a blush from Oriko, which is adorable but besides the point right now.
"Yeah, and... your power will reflect that," you say. Mami squeezes your hand encouragingly. "And I mean - you did help Oriko with your powers, and it's, uh, how do I put this-"
"You're saying that I got antimagic powers when I Wished to help Oriko because it's like, my Wish is trying to tell Oriko she doesn't need her powers to live," Kirika says.
"That's exactly what I'm trying to say," you agree. "It's, agh, magic is subtle like that? Does that make sense?"
"But antimagic is the perfect counter in combat," Oriko points out. "Why wouldn't Kirika have gotten it?"
"As opposed to, say, mind control," you counter. "And besides, Kirika Wished for you. And she got... basically magic's great hint to you."
"I... see," Oriko says. Her eyes are wide. Genuinely surprised for perhaps the first time since you'd met her. "I don't know. My vision..."
"Oriko..." you chide. Mami closes her other hand on top of yours, lacing her fingers through.
"I know," she says, a hint of exasperation creeping into her voice. "Your confidence in our Wishes cuts both ways. Why would I be granted my visions if not to see?"
"Well, yes, you are, but as I've established, I think you're seeing -or rather looking at- the wrong thing," you counter. "Which segues nicely into what I want to say, anyway. Oriko, please? Just... please. Try to find happiness for yourself. I know. It's hard. But... hey. Try?"
"I suppose I must," Oriko says, with a wry smirk.
You break out into a grin. That's more progress than you've ever gotten. "Good," you say emphatically. "That's all I can ask for. Is there anything we can get you? Books, movies, games?"
"We have the internet," Kirika pipes up, squirming around to face you properly. "Yaarrrr~" She wiggles her fingers at you.
"Oh, sure, but it's not the same, and I'm sure there are things you want," you say.
"Some fresh groceries would be nice," Oriko says, settling back into the sofa. She seems mildly distracted, attention darting between you and Kirika.
"Chocolate!" Kirika chirps, grinning at you. "Uh, cooking chocolate, too, right, Oriko?"
"Uh, yes. Cooking chocolate, thank you for the reminder, dear," Oriko says.
"Right. Sure you don't want any games or anything?" you ask, starting to get to your feet.
"No, we have enough entertainment," Oriko says.
"Yup!" Kirika says, hopping to her feet.
"Right, then," you say, turning to give Mami a hand up. "I... well. Do try, Oriko? Please?"
The seer shrugs with one shoulder. "I can't make any promises."
"Trying is enough," you say.
She dips her head in acquiescence. "Dear, would you see them out?"
"Sure," Kirika says with a bright grin as she hops lightly to her feet.
"Right," you say. You dissolve the privacy field with a thought, relaxing as the ever-present pressure fades from your senses. Then again, you'd managed to not think about it for the entire time, really.
Mami gives you a smile, bumping her shoulder against yours, and with a laugh, you sling your arm around her waist. You say your goodbyes to Oriko, and head out.
"Hey, Sabrina?" Kirika pauses at the glass door.
"Mm?" you ask, turning to face her.
"'m not stupid," Kirika says, twiddling her fingers together. "You think that Oriko's purpose in life is me?"
"Well..." you say. "Pretty much, yeah."
Kirika blushes, hard. "Right. Right. Gotcha," she says.
"You remember what I said, right?" you ask. "She can be wrong. She is wrong about wanting to die, and... I think your magic is proof that she is. Her magic says one thing, and your magic says that you shouldn't listen to it."
"Get her to be happy, to live, to love," Kirika says, a luminescent, distant smile on her face. "Yeah, I remember. It's... hard. I forget how to say no to her."
"Mm," you agree. "Still... I'll ask from you the same thing I asked from Oriko. Try? Please?"
Kirika grins fiercely, little fang protruding. "Yeah, I can do that. I mean, I know I said that last time too, but like, you know what I mean," she says. "Thanks, 'brina. Though, uh..."
You raise an eyebrow at her fidgeting. "Yeah?"
"About letting us out, sometime?" Kirika asks, rubbing her lip.
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[X] Ask Oriko and Kirika if there's anything you can get them to help them pass the time (books, games, movies?), then depart and ask Homura for a timestop.
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I'll be honest - I've been sitting on and giggling about the anti-magic thing for literally years at this point. Granted, the schedule got brought up a fair bit, but still!
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Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
Wow. Critical hit, straight through the armor and into the magazines. Good work, @Godwinson. I'm just going to credit you with solving the Oriko thing right now.
eeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I think we can promise that we'll work on it?
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typo
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwww
Huh. That's part of what we wanted to talk to Homura in timestop about?
Like, can we just say "I was heading to talk to Homura about, in part, this"?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
*Look at Homura out there*
(If she's there right now)
"Right there is the big problem with that. Maybe I should tell her she can secretly stalk you during a Date..."
*Wink wink*
EDIT: Wait, f*cking, can we feel Homu out there right now? I wanna hug Best Buddy so much right now but I don't think it'd be good for Homu to see that.
Shoulderpats?
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
And this is why I was so confident about my idea, because after people started piling onto my vote, Firn said this to me via PM. I couldn't say that's why I was so sure about it, because it wouldn't be right.I'll be honest - I've been sitting on and giggling about the anti-magic thing for literally years at this point. Granted, the schedule got brought up a fair bit, but still!
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Congratulations.You may have saved our best buddy and her stubborn oujou for good.we are almost out of the woods now for sure....
Take a bow, Godwinson.
Could give Homu a change of heart witnessing their lovey dovey antics while Sabrina and Mami hangs out with Madoka as guards for their sleepover.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
We could literally propose it as a double date. Just blush and look sideways at Mami and say it's necessary... but she shouldn't misunderstand, we'd be OK with it since it's with her... but she shouldn't read too much into this... unless she wants to... we wouldn't mind either way, not that we don't like Mami, we do, but we don't want to push her-
*Shoves Brina and Mami forcefully into a kiss*
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- Austria
[] Tell her that we will try to, but need to convince Homura (and now Sayaka and Hitomi?)
-[] Those recent revelations can be useful in convincing, but it is Oriko and Kirika's secret, so ask permission to use
[jk] Immediately look for groceries
It is short, but is there more to say?
Also, we'll need to ask around for mind-affecting or soul-affecting guca to help with Akiko.
-[] Those recent revelations can be useful in convincing, but it is Oriko and Kirika's secret, so ask permission to use
[jk] Immediately look for groceries
It is short, but is there more to say?
Also, we'll need to ask around for mind-affecting or soul-affecting guca to help with Akiko.
Muramasa
Best Girl
[] Yeah, I've been thinking about how to talk to Homura about it... You would have to be chaperoned but I don't think Homura can object if say both Mami and I kept an eye on things.
[q] It's is absolutely not a- Okay it totally does come of as a d-double date.
[q] *awkward blushing the rest of the night*
[q] It's is absolutely not a- Okay it totally does come of as a d-double date.
[q] *awkward blushing the rest of the night*
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Wait, this is perfect
. So much blushing will be the perfect excuse for Mami and Brina to take a few minutes away from each other - they do have to sleep together later, after all.So while Mami competes for 1st place Best Cook with Tomohisa, we have a private conversation with Madoka about... everything.
GiftOfLove
From the Heart
Homura would probably put a bullet through her head on reflex.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Vote is being crafted with an eye toward an infodump that @AuraTwilight is providing regarding Puella Magi Oriko Magica.
[X] Tell Kirika you were planning on addressing the matter anyway. Ask her if perhaps Oriko might prefer to stay at the hideout they were going to use. Oriko has bad memories of the house, after all.
[X] Ask Homura for timestop for the three of you. Explain to Mami and Homura that you might want to change where Oriko is being held. Explain why keeping Oriko in the house is somewhat cruel. Plan is tentative, will do move only if everyone is okay with it. Reference need to include at least Sayaka in future discussion on topics regarding Oriko.
[X] Look to talk to Homura in private. Hug Mami, explain it's stuff personal for Homura, about the stuff you woke up knowing.
[X] Once in private timestop, explain to Homura what you know about Oriko from metaknowledge, especially that you hadn't fully remembered the loop Homura interacted with them in until just now. Apologize to her for not explaining your reasoning beforehand. You're trying to be better about being secretive and controlling. Offer to show her what you woke up knowing. Offer to include showing Madoka too.
I'm wanting to avoid a "double-date", because that seems like a good way to alienate Homura and Sayaka, by being overtly chummy with the Mikunis. Likewise, we need to get better about including all of our friends in discussions and decisionmaking, we really need to bring Madoka into things, and we need Homura to know what we do and don't know.
[X] Tell Kirika you were planning on addressing the matter anyway. Ask her if perhaps Oriko might prefer to stay at the hideout they were going to use. Oriko has bad memories of the house, after all.
[X] Ask Homura for timestop for the three of you. Explain to Mami and Homura that you might want to change where Oriko is being held. Explain why keeping Oriko in the house is somewhat cruel. Plan is tentative, will do move only if everyone is okay with it. Reference need to include at least Sayaka in future discussion on topics regarding Oriko.
[X] Look to talk to Homura in private. Hug Mami, explain it's stuff personal for Homura, about the stuff you woke up knowing.
[X] Once in private timestop, explain to Homura what you know about Oriko from metaknowledge, especially that you hadn't fully remembered the loop Homura interacted with them in until just now. Apologize to her for not explaining your reasoning beforehand. You're trying to be better about being secretive and controlling. Offer to show her what you woke up knowing. Offer to include showing Madoka too.
I'm wanting to avoid a "double-date", because that seems like a good way to alienate Homura and Sayaka, by being overtly chummy with the Mikunis. Likewise, we need to get better about including all of our friends in discussions and decisionmaking, we really need to bring Madoka into things, and we need Homura to know what we do and don't know.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
You can, you know, be explicit about things people would want to know when reading this.
You're talking about telling Homura that O&K aren't usually crazy mass murderers and the like? That normal loop Oriko just megucas around, saves Yumas, and fights Walpurgisnachts?
(Though we've already mentioned that O&K have fought Walpurgisnacht in past loops, ofc Homu didn't care because we were comparing Homu to O&K)
EDIT: Also, we should probably ask Mami if something's troubling her, since we specifically noticed her being worried.
Maybe.
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Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Yeah, problem is that I personally haven't read PMOM, and am working off of second-hand knowledge about why Oriko's actions there were especially nasty.
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Homura: *stare*
Also, re:strained Mami smile. Maybe we should talk to Mami before talking to Homu?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
She went crazy, trapped Madoka's school in a Witch Barrier, and when Yuma managed to make everybody pull through the... Witchbomb (?), Homu had hopes that that timeline would work.
But Oriko, being batshit insane (and fucking completely disregarding her Wish Vision, as far as I can tell), instead of dying peacefully when being killed, uses a last parting shot to kill Madoka, ruining everything for Homura.
Before that point, Homu didn't give a shit about Oriko, no matter how many meguca were being killed (by Kirika, as a stupid plot from Oriko to keep KB distracted and have KB not notice Madoka's Potential (because Gretchen was the boogeymonster in Oriko's Vision)).