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I do like the idea of telepathically contacting Kyouko.

Points to get across:
•Hey, that's the newbie I was talking about.
•She just got told some really heavy shit from us, give her some slack.
•I was planning to go over the melee training plan with her and Mami tommorow.
 
This is what I was thinking about.
Jiraiya: [flashback] In the shinobi world it's not how you live, it's how you die. A shinobi's life is not measured by how they live but rather it's measured by what they acomplish before their death. And looking back, my life has really been full of nothing but faliure. Continiually rejected by Tsunade,
[about Orochimaru]
Jiraiya: not being able to stop my friend and unable to protect either my student or my mentor. Compared to the great deeds of the hokage my actions are all insignificant things and deed. I wish I could have diel like eact of the hokage. A tale is only good as it's final turn of events. A plot twist. And mistakes are important part of a plot, too. I lived my life always believing that the lessons I learned are what haund me. I swore I'd acomplish a deed so great that it would obliterate all my faliures. I'd die as a splendid shinobi, at least that's least that's how it's supposed to go. But my tale ending like this... The Great lord Elder prophesied that I would be the one to guide the revolution. A person who would make a great choice that will bring either peace or destruction to the world of the shinobi. I thought I would defeat Pain, stop the Akatsuki and save the world from destruction. But in the end, I failed that, too. How pitiful. How sad that this will be the end twist to the tale of Jiraiya the Gallant. What a worthless story it tourned out to be.
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I swore I'd acomplish a deed so great that it would obliterate all my faliures.

Firnagzen said:
Completely unrelated to anything,
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Mami is never not relevant to this quest.
 
Let Sayaka and Kyoko talk it out. If we telepathy them Sayaka will know we send Homura to spy on her. I doubt that's gonna go over well, when her trust in our judgement is already rock bottom.

Just have Homura keep an eye on it. If fighting erupts Homura can timestop and grab us. Then we can have Mami tie them up in ribbon bondage or something.

We just need to make sure that Homura can drag us into timestop. So we need to stay outside the privacy barrier.
 
God mini-Mami is adorable.
(inb4 LostDeviljho)

So, proto-proto-idea of a vote.

[] Tell Homura and Mami that you trust those two to not kill each other
[] Telepathy UgoMura Kyouko and Sakura
-[] Make sure they are not fighting and ask to not do it
-[] Outline situation to Kyouko and ask her to lecture Sayaka on meguca life if possible; make it an abrupt start of her training
[] If thing above worked out, tell Homura and Mami about plan to let Kyouko train Sayaka and apologize/explain not warning sooner (there were valid reasons in time)
 
Ralathon said:
Let Sayaka and Kyoko talk it out. If we telepathy them Sayaka will know we send Homura to spy on her. I doubt that's gonna go over well, when her trust in our judgement is already rock bottom.
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Yeah, it's fine for Sayaka to talk to people without Sabrina playing mother hen. Let her meet Kyoko on her own and see what she thinks.

EDIT: And not interfering means not calling either of them telepathically and giving them directions. Give up control. Just let something happen without feeling like Sabrina has to manage it for once.
 
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Redshirt Army mentioned it before I even read the update, but yeah, Sabrina's not Sayaka's favorite person right now and we've been arranging for her training with an abrasive sketchy meguca.
 
Ralathon said:
You know, we actually have a lot of excess grief. If we ever figure out how to sustain grief constructs beyond our range, we should totally do that. Not like we're using the grief for anything, and a giant Barad-dûr in the middle of Mitakihara would annoy Kyubey.
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We probably can make an eye that'd let us look all over Mitakihara, actually.
 
Ralathon said:
You know, we actually have a lot of excess grief. If we ever figure out how to sustain grief constructs beyond our range, we should totally do that. Not like we're using the grief for anything, and a giant Barad-dûr in the middle of Mitakihara would annoy Kyubey.
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I've had a sneaking suspicion for a while that if we leave piles of grief lying around unattended, QB will just steal and devour it.

This has led to the mental image of legions on QB bodies slowly eating their way through our giant grief monolith.
 
Redshirt Army said:
The largest concern of just letting them talk is that Kyoko might be like "so you're that girl Sabrina asked me to train" and Sayaka will be like "what she didn't say anything this makes me so mad". :V
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If that's really the largest concern then the potential downsides seem pretty low. The potential upsides are letting them get to know each other without someone outside trying to manage it, which might be a good idea.
 
Random832 said:
With our luck it'd only let us see 100 meters.
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Light is a natural phenomenon, and we'd be receiving, not sending, anyway.

ctulhuslp said:
Hmmm. Can we make a grief-Palantir? And grief-Orthanc?
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Palantir would be Range limited.

... Why wouldn't we be able to make Orthanc? We just need a big enough place to put it.

Redshirt Army said:
... And there were those plans to make a ring that would let others use our power... and we already have a phylactery...

Fuck it.

[x] Be Sauron.
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That doesn't work, I'm pretty sure Sauron was prettier than Sabrina. We'd need to ditch our flesh body for either: nothing; or a bombastic supernaturally good looking, elvish body.
 
I think we should take a gamble by sending Mami out to grab Sayaka and get her home with Homu as back up?

Look I know it sounds bad but I think its time for Mami to face her fears with the Kyouko, she's pretty much the symbol of her past, present and future if Sabrina's count, I mean its agency for her instead of being stuck in Sabrina's shadow with all her success and directions in control.
Honesty I think she would recover a lot of her self esteem if she accomplish her mission of standing up to Kyouko and bringing Sayaka home, which as a bonus in making Sabrina proud and proving her own worth by keep Brina here.
They do need to talk and once Homura returns after dropping Sayaka home she can observe hidden until needed.

Homu is our safety net who can quickly pull Sayaka and Mami in and out in an instant should things about to fall apart with Kyouko and leaving with words like Sabrina will own and explain everything in her curt manner if that happens.

Which poor Brina would have to take Kyouko to a 4 star as recompense.

We should trust Mami and Homura with dealing with those two independently while we work on Oriko and mentally bribe Kyouko with lots of food or own her any one favour that we can fill.
This way she accepts in toning down her reaction to Mami since its quid pro quo in her street/magical girl mindset while we get a more confident Mami out of it.

Actually Homura could explain why she's taking Sayaka away in an urgent manner by saying its a personal siltation between the two and can provide general details if prompted. And why Mami can't meet her other times?
Kyouko never come this way and avoids her.
That way the personal nature of the meeting would force Sayaka to leave.

If Mami falters then its back to the drawing board.
I should be sleeping now....
 
Briefvoice said:
If that's really the largest concern then the potential downsides seem pretty low. The potential upsides are letting them get to know each other without someone outside trying to manage it, which might be a good idea.
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Well, theoretically they could suddenly start a fight to the death, but I think that's unlikely for a variety of reasons. So it's the largest realistic concern.
 
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