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Kaizuki said:
We could... Hm.

I think optimally, we'd nudge the conversation between Sayaka and Kyouko via tekepathy and return to working over Oriko. That might peeve Homura... Hm.

But, something like

"Telepathy Sayaka. 'Ask her about Chitose Yuma if she hasn't come up.'"

And then just disconnect the telepathy net -- back under privacy.

If we can nudge Kokosaya in a positive direction that will do more good than any outcome of us actually going there would achieve.

First, though, we need to get more information from Homura. What are they talking about? How heated is it? Grief levels?

We could learn a lot by timestopping over there, breaking timestop just long enough to pick up the tone, timestop back.

But right now we should three to timestop immediately. Not because of danger, but because we're this close to breaking through on Oriko it looked like, and we need to explain our interactions with Kyouko to Mami now.

More detail later, but

[] Three to timestop
[] This close to breaking Oriko right now, we're going to need to deal with everything simultaneously.
[] 'Splain Oriko to both if requested
[] Light Kokotalk Mami -- Koko Talk as "want reconcile mumifriend!", "I didn't want to bring it up until I had solid results {Koko train seikyu, should further mellow koko} which... I actually somewhat do as of yesterday. But, uh, yesterday and today... Yeah. Tomorrow was the plan. Guess it's happening today, though..." Make it clear we're not trying to replace ourselves. May want to ask Homu to step out of room for this bit.
[] Timestop over to kokoseikyu? Investigate body language? Eye of Sauron instead? Evaluate & obtain more intel. Question Homura.
[] Push Seikyu in right direction (AKA towards Yuma) if possible / reasonable
[] Sic Homura on it. If anything that meets condition/s XYZ happens, response QWP
[] Kill the privacy device?
[] Fucking finish her Oriko
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I see. So this was YOUR PLAN KAIZUKI! You wanted to have a timestop conversation, so you made Kyouko spot Sayaka, so Homu would have to come meet us and interrupt our talk on her own!

So devious! Devious!
 
Other then giving Kyouko some context as to Sayaka's emotional state i.e Telling Kyouko that Sayaka's just been through a hard talk and is understandably and justifiably upset and for her to just keep that in mind, I am ABSOLUTELY against influencing this encounter. Including requesting Kyouko to 'go easy' on Sayaka.

For Kyouko and Sayaka to work, they have to be themselves. That means our interference should and must be kept to a minimum.
 
[Q] Put on your shipping goggles.
-[Q] Tell Mami you've been waiting for this moment.
-[Q] She'll understand.
 
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We probably want to give Oriko and Kirika some warning before we take down the interdiction field or poke our heads back in. I don't expect Kirika to have dissolved into crying and clinging in the last thirty seconds, but I can see it if she caught and continued our argument.

Do we want to give O&K more time together before we resume the argument? Building another interdiction field would let us do kokotalk lite with Mumi without asking for TS from Homu.

We need to give Homura a clear seed ASAP, next update if preferable. I think we do want to lead the next vote with "three for timestop".
 
[Q] Ask Homu for timestop STAT.
-[Q] Once in timestop, cuddle Mami and Homu for all their worth.
--[Q] If you stay in timestop forever, you'll never have to deal with the evil SOCIAL again.
---[Q] Stay in timestop forever.
 
We should check if Yuma's there via telepathy; she'll make herself be there in order to tone-police her Onee-chan and ship them. And also Sayaka can't villainize someone taking care of a 1st grader.

Additionally if Yuma's there we can telepathically ask her to give us the play by play, so as not to interrupt Kokosaya dynamics if they're going well.

"Sis is being all tsun about it. Blue girl's being all side-character rival tsun about it. Shipping bait is happening."
"...Thanks Yuma."

Like I want to be over there but we're making progress with Oriko and we should keep on it while the iron's hot. God we just need to get Homura to accept Oriko doesn't plan to harm Madoka ever. Can we just...ask them to talk civilly, or something? To have Oriko tell her what she's been telling us, or...?
 
Are we dropping the Privacy thing then?

[Q] Make Lie Detector and get Oriko and Homu to talk.
-[Q] Somehow.
 
Onmur said:
-[Q] Accidentally Oriko's house on fire.
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"Accidentally"


Vote Prototype:

[] Three to timestop for quick consult
-[] Give Homura a Clear Seed
-[] Tell Homura and Mami about how you proposed to have Kyoko give Sayaka advanced melee training. You were going to bring it up after this whole Oriko thing, but of course reality doesn't like to keep to your schedule.
-[] You think you're on the verge of a breakthrough with Oriko, and probably shouldn't intervene in the conversation between Sayaka and Kyoko anyway, but they do need an adult to keep them from making out too hard killing one another, and that's a good role for Homura.
-[] Ask Mami who she wants to go with.
[] Get back to Oriko conversation.
 
[Q] Gather all friendly girls.
- [Q] Perma timestop together.
- - [Q] Spend however long to find Walpurgisnacht.
- - - [Q] Infinite magical destruction to Walpurgisnacht during timestop.
- - [Q] Go back to Oriko.
- [Q] Sorry, couldn't hear you over the sound of all your visions being wrong.
[Q] Grief hot tub. Mami in a bikini.
 
rkyeun said:
[Q] Gather all friendly girls.
- [Q] Perma timestop together.
- - [Q] Spend however long to find Walpurgisnacht.
- - - [Q] Infinite magical destruction to Walpurgisnacht during timestop.
- - [Q] Go back to Oriko.
- [Q] Sorry, couldn't hear you over the sound of all your visions being wrong.
[Q] Grief hot tub. Mami in a bikini.
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[Q] Feathers crashes the party.
 
1) Get Oriko to admit that she wants to live if it's possible; that if it's allowed to her she'd rather live a hero than die a hero.
2) Relay this information, plus Symmetry Diamond, to Homura.
3) Talk with both about what happened today. Frame that Oriko wants to save the world or die trying, but would prefer to live as a hero. Does Homura accept that premise? (She does; that was never her bone to pick).
4) Frame that if Oriko does anything that hurts Sabrina or Madoka, Homura will kill them both messily. Does Oriko accept that premise? (She does, but Homura needs to hear it.)
5) Ask both of them if they understand that Oriko wants to live with her girlfriend and help save people, and to do this that means she cannot harm Sabrina or Madoka? If they understand this, can we lift the house arrest? Incrementally, if need be?

Do this, plus Telepathy Koko&Yuma damage control plan? Please?
 
Give Homura a clear seed and have her timestop over to S&K to make sure nobody dies. Telepathy Yuma. If she's there, we can stop worrying, I doubt a conversation involving her could go too badly. If she's not there, help her come up with a pretext for involving herself by telepathy?
 
I wanna do my above plan for O&K while telepathying Koko and Yuma for damage control, then after O&K we check on Sayaka, cleanse her, touch base. THEN we check on Hitomi with telepathy, just a quick "I'm really sorry about before, are you okay? Alright then, please talk to me if you feel like it, I want to be better friends with you."

THEN talk to Madoka. Touch base with her, ask her how she's doing, explain that we messed up a bit with Sayaka and Hitomi and basically give an overview of the night. Ask for advice on how to deal with Sayaka and make things better between the two of us. Emphasize how much we appreciate her, in general, and that talking really helped.

THEN (or earlier, honestly), apologize to Mami about not telling her about our involvement with Kyouko. We know she's a sensitive subject to her and we've...dropped a lot on her already, and we feel terrible about constantly dropping surprises on her. But the other reason we didn't tell her was we wanted confirmation Kyouko agreed to coming over before telling her and Sayaka. Tell her how Kyouko's been doing if she asks, and also mention Yuma. Tell her how great Yuma is. You'd love her, holy shit.
 
@AuraTwilight is like 5000% right. We need to get Yuma on the court, here. Ask her to play it passively unless she doesn't like what's happening. Maybe send Homura to ferry her over to the site.

Small children solve all social problems.
 
I don't think Homura needs to. Yuma would never be far from Kyouko anyway, and she's a Magical Girl. Though I'm not adverse to having Homura shorten trip speed and I don't think Homura would either considering what it's for.

But yea that post of mine should, imo, be our plan for multiple votes. Please?
 
I'm trying to put that plan into votes, but I'm sure I'm missing things/messing up order of things/making up stuff I don't understand/using more words than needed.

But I'm trying to have all points mentioned, at least.

EDIT: Also, this might be several updates worth of stuff, right?

[ ] "Let me do something really quick?"
-[ ] Telepathy Yuma to check if she's with Kyouko, or if she can check in on Kyouko. Either way, Kyouko might get in a fight so we'd appreciate if she let us know what Kyouko and Sayaka are doing right now?
-[ ] Undo the Privacy Grief thing.

[ ] Ask Homura for timestop; you need to talk with Mami and her.
-[ ] First of all, apologize to Mami. Explain the situation with Kyouko, how you asked her to help train Sayaka, and how you were holding some hope you could help Kyouko and Mami reconcile at some point. You've no excuse for not having told her any of this before now other than a the hectic days you've been having.
-[ ] If Mami's OK, proceed: Ask Homura to hear you out, and askif you can keep Mami in for this, you need to mention Homura's Wish. The way Oriko and Kirika are acting is wrong. Same with that time. Oriko and Kirika usually don't pull any of this shit, and they do Contract now and then. Explain Symetry Diamond if necessary; what Oriko and Kirika do when Oriko's not flipping her shit at a World ending threat.
-[ ] Explain the current situation and the conversation to Homura and Mami, as best as you can understand. Include that Oriko's goal includes keeping Madoka alive, but right now, we just got Oriko to go from her 'I need to die while making the world better phase' to admit that she wants to live and be a hero.
-[ ] As soon as Homu drops timestop, you're trying to get Yuma to give you a play by play of the Kyouko Sayaka meeting, so that's covered, and Yuma's like, the second or third Best, so yeah.
-[ ] You still have some talking to do with Oriko. Ask Homura to be here with us, instead of out there. She can keep a hand on her Shield if she needs to.
 
Onmur said:
-[ ] First of all, apologize to Mami. Explain the situation with Kyouko, how you asked her to help train Sayaka, and how you were holding some hope you could help Kyouko and Mami reconcile at some point. You've no excuse for not having told her any of this before now other than a the hectic days you've been having.
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We shouldn't actually apologize here. Like, I'm sure that's controversial, but we could get better results if we framed it as "I was trying to do this on the side for you, was actually going to tell you tomorrow."

Whether that's a true assertion or not of course depends on whether Mami would like to have Kyouko as a friend again. But... If Kyouko came to Mami's place and apologized and was nice, would Mami not be happy about that?

I remember people talking about whether this was accurate or not a few months back but I can't remember the answer. I'd like for this to be casual, though, rather than another apology and kowtow -- because Mami has a history of reacting differently based on how we treat things.

AuraTwilight said:
1) Get Oriko to admit that she wants to live if it's possible; that if it's allowed to her she'd rather live a hero than die a hero.
2) Relay this information, plus Symmetry Diamond, to Homura.
3) Talk with both about what happened today. Frame that Oriko wants to save the world or die trying, but would prefer to live as a hero. Does Homura accept that premise? (She does; that was never her bone to pick).
4) Frame that if Oriko does anything that hurts Sabrina or Madoka, Homura will kill them both messily. Does Oriko accept that premise? (She does, but Homura needs to hear it.)
5) Ask both of them if they understand that Oriko wants to live with her girlfriend and help save people, and to do this that means she cannot harm Sabrina or Madoka? If they understand this, can we lift the house arrest? Incrementally, if need be?
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Okay, kitty gonna votecraft.

[] Tear down the privacy device. Telepathy Mami, Homura, and Yuma. Ask Yuma (By name so nobody else gets confused) if she knows where her big sister is.
Transparency desu

-[] If Yuma isn't with Kyouko, inform her that something important is going on and you'd like her to be there watching it in case it doesn't go well. If she's okay with that, then where is she? If she's far away from Kyouko, you'll have someone ferry her over. Otherwise just have Homura give her Kyouko's location.

--[] If there's an actual emergency, Yuma should telepathy this line (i.e. Homu) and we'll be there immediately.

--[] If Yuma needs a ride, turn to Homura. Tell her to take Yuma through timestop to somewhere Yuma can observe the conversation. Yuma has proven to be extremely effective at pushing Kyouko towards being a better & happier person, far more so than anything we've accomplished. Yuma won't let Kyouko get into a fight with Sayaka.

[] Out loud, inform everyone still here that Yuma will deal with it unless it turns into an emergency.

[] Turn to Mami. Don't act like this is a big deal, because it's not, until and unless Mami wonders if we're trying to replace ourselves with Kyouko or something. "I've been trying to work on Kyouko on the sly in hopes of getting her to agree to make up with you. I'd been holding off on it because I know how you... anyway, I was going to mention this tomorrow, I'm trying to get her to train Sayaka in melee combat. She's an interesting person, but she's not you. You're the best." Hug Mami.
Casual Kokotalk. We might want to ask Homu for a momentary timestop and a bit of privacy? Nah. (I'm trying to get her to train Sayaka in melee combat. -> She's the person I'm trying to get to train Sayaka in melee combat. ?)

[] Get Oriko to admit that she wants to live if it's possible; that if it's allowed to her she'd rather live a hero than die a hero. Be as ruthless about it as is necessary, but polite, and don't use metaknowledge -- it's neither terribly useful nor necessary, here.
We can't have this thing up or we might miss lines over telepathy.

[] Clarify the line she misunderstood last time; explain the precog spiral and break her faith in her precog.
 
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Kaizuki said:
Whether that's a true assertion or not of course depends on whether Mami would like to have Kyouko as a friend again. But... If Kyouko came to Mami's place and apologized and was nice, would Mami not be happy about that?
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We're kind of trying to manipulate Koko and Mami here.

Kaizuki said:
Mami has a history of reacting differently based on how we treat things.
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That makes sense, though.

Kaizuki said:
[] Out loud, inform everyone still here that Yuma will deal with it unless it turns into an emergency.
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"My Secret Agent is a girl that should be a first grader by her age, but doesn't even do school."

Kaizuki said:
[] Tear down the privacy device.
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I'd put this at the start of the vote if we're not doing timestop, for Homu's sake if nothing else. It's only hiding Oriko and Kirika.
 
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