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Err... Perhaps we can begin with the "stabilize her" part, before going with the "it's the end of the world as we know it" part?
 
One day, after putting their adorable platinum blond children to bed, sabrina and mami will look back on this and laaauuugghhh
 
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bird_poison said:
Err... Perhaps we can begin with the "stabilize her" part, before going with the "it's the end of the world as we know it" part?
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We're doing a spectacular job of failing to achieve exactly that while presenting statements and evidence that skirt the heart of the matter but don't actually reach it.

And it's not the end of the world as we know it. It's preventable.
 
Oh dear... At least it Sabrina finally got around to the metabomb issue. I think having a vote that goes too long might end up hurting in the long run, but it needs to be proper enough so that Mami understands why Sabrina's done what she's done from the beginning.

[X] "Because I was scared."
[X] "I woke up in an alleyway, dying, with no idea of who I was and with information that I shouldn't have had. When Kyubey told me that I could become a Magical Girl, and that I had potential, I thought I could use that and the information that I had to make things better, for everyone, because that was the only thing I thought I could do."
[X] "I don't have any records. I don't have a family. I don't have memories from before then not because I have amnesia, but likely because I was bo—no, created recently. I didn't have anywhere to go, but you offered a home for me to stay and showed me hospitality that no one else would show a stranger."
[X] "We didn't become friends because of foreknowledge or planning, but because you showed me kindness and treated me as a close friend, so I gave you the same in return. But because of how we became friends, I was so scared and worried how you would treat me if I told you the truth, so I kept putting it off, and the more I put it off, the harder it was to tell you. I didn't know what to do."

A bit incomplete, but eh. It sorta gets to the main point, and mainly shows that we didn't befriend her out of a plan or because of pity.
 
Kaizuki said:
We're doing a spectacular job of failing to achieve exactly that while presenting statements and evidence that skirt the heart of the matter but don't actually reach it.

And it's not the end of the world as we know it. It's preventable.
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At least make an opening about that she is important to us, then explain the end of everything business.

She is hurt because we (in her mind) manipulated her from the begining because [reasons].

We must explain that [reasons] is we don't want her (and anybody) to die horribly.

This is our reason to be, our highest desire.

We can reasure her we won't leave later. We can explain the exact nature of the threat later. But first and foremost, we are not the chess-master, but a concerned friend with privileged perspective and lethal knowledge.
 
... Updating previous vote to include something that prevents possible "how does that have anything to do with this" in some scenarios.

[X] Because I've come to care deeply for you, to the point that I don't know what I'd do without you. In the end, that was why. I was afraid I'd lose you if I told you.
 
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Oh this?

bird_poison said:
That sounds cute, but you are not explaining a thing.

"Because I like you" is not an explanation, is an excuse. Is an excuse to do what we did, snd an excuse to do so many things it loses al worth as an explanation.

What we did: we denied her information.
Why we did it: because she was too fragile to know it.

I believe we should tell her that we like her, that we don't want her to abandon us, that we want the best for her, and that we know telling her what we know will hurt her. A lot.

And then we should ask for trust, and an opening to keep explaining what exactly we know.
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uhhhh
 
As far as I can tell, Mami wants both an explanation and a reassurance that Sabrina cares about her. Here's my attempt.

[X] Because I care about you. Because I didn't want you to die.
-[X] Telling you about Kyubey and what he did to our souls almost killed you, Mami. I couldn't bear that.
-[X] I knew you didn't know, so I lied about knowing you. So I could help you when you inevitably found out.
-[X] But I have never lied about my feelings.
-[X] I knew you were a kind and wonderful person before I met you, Mami. Now I really know you, you've become someone truly precious to me.
[X] It was unfair to keep this from you, so I decided to tell you. I never wanted to hurt you.
-[X] Please don't send me away.
 
I can't tell the votes from each other anymore. I don't... I can't...

I'm... I'm just going to try to go to bed now. I'll fail, but at least I'll have made the attempt.
 
UbeOne said:
So we didn't care for Mami at first? Wasn't this part discussed a while ago or something?
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Kaizuki said:
I am dead for the night. Can you quote yourself.
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Julian Bradshaw said:
(I do not think we should say something like "I have come to care for you." This implies we didn't care about her at first, presumably because we were callously manipulating her like Kyubey, but that isn't true!. We've always cared about Mami, just as we care about Homura, and Madoka, and everyone else.)
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Kaizuki said:
[X] Because I've come to care deeply for you, to the point that I don't know what I'd do without you. In the end, that was why. I was afraid I'd lose you if I told you.
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It's good to reassure her right off the bat, but I still feel like the one-line response isn't going to cut it. She's going to want some actual answers or our reassurance is going to sound like a hollow platitude.

So let's tell her how much she means to us... but let's follow it up with some actual answers to her question.

(Also implementing Julian's suggestion to not make it sound like caring for her is a recent development.)


[X] Because I was scared. Scared of losing you. Because I care about you, to the point that I don't know what I'd do without you.
[X] I'm sorry. I should have told you a long time ago. I know that. I just... didn't know how to tell you. At first, I didn't say anything because I didn't think anyone would believe me. How could anyone believe it? It seems so impossible. And Kyubey was always here… listening… spying on us. He could use the things I know to hurt people. If I'd told you when we first met what a monster he was, would you have believed me? And when I finally got up the courage to tell you that he was tricking you, to tell you the truth about Soul Gems, you were so hurt by it… I hated myself for putting you through that. I was afraid that if I tried to tell you the rest, I would hurt you again.
-[X] But that's all just excuses. The real reason is because I'm a coward. I was afraid of… well, of this. (Well, okay, not the ribbon thing; that was a surprise.) I was afraid of you hating me for keeping this from you. I was afraid of losing you. But I couldn't stay quiet any longer. It wasn't right. It wasn't fair to you. I don't want to keep secrets from you anymore. You're my best friend. You're the closest thing I have to family. I want to be honest with you. Even if… even if it costs me your friendship. You deserve the truth.
--[X] I don't know how I know these things. I'm not a clairvoyant. I didn't spy on you. I just woke up knowing them. I didn't recognize my own face in the mirror, but I knew who all of you were the moment I saw you. I knew that Homura had a good heart under that gruff exterior, and I knew that Kyubey was really a monster… and I knew that you were a hero. And when I actually got to know you, I discovered that you were even more amazing than I'd realized. If you can still stand the sight of me after all this... then I'd like nothing more than to stay by your side.
[X] I'll abide by whatever decision you make. I won't keep things from you anymore. Ask me anything. I'll tell you any secret that's mine to tell.
[X] If at time during the conversation, we sense that Mami's Soul Gem has reached half full again, remind her that she needs to cleanse it.
-[X] If Mami doesn't, tell her that we'll abide by any decision she makes… but we will not allow her to commit suicide by letting her Soul Gem fill up. Beg her to cleanse her Soul Gem, if need be.
--[X] If she doesn't cleanse it herself and it reaches dangerous levels, then we will use our powers to cleanse it for her, after warning her that we intend to. If by some miracle we're not still tied up at that point, we will not reach for it while cleansing it or make any other sudden movements that could startle her.


EDIT: Changed up some wording slightly.
 
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... Right.


Uhhhh wellllll hm.

Kaizuki said:
... Updating previous vote to include something that prevents possible "how does that have anything to do with this" in some scenarios.

[X] Because I've come to care deeply for you, to the point that I don't know what I'd do without you. In the end, that was why. I was afraid I'd lose you if I told you.
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I cant believe im trying to edit this before sleep. TT

[X] Because I care deeply for you, to the point that I don't know what I'd do without you. In the end, that was why. I was afraid I'd lose you if I told you.

There that'll be k if firn decides to do things before morning right
 
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