Slith10
Back from the dead and ready to party!
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- New Zealand
Sabrina would forgive people for burning her house down.
Sabrina would forgive people for setting her on fire.
Sabrina would forgive people for microwaving...
Sabrina Best Girl.
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Sabrina would forgive people for setting her on fire.
Sabrina would forgive people for microwaving...
Sabrina Best Girl.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
noahgab1133
Fluffy?
if we are this excited over ugomura how is the thread going to react to kyoko and sayaka meeting within the quest?
FelOnyx
Love and Peace!
- Location
- Gunsmoke
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Damage control mode, most likely.
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
- Location
- The glorious Pacific Northwest
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- Any
...'Brina is basically a palette-swap of her, so yeah.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
So if we want go on a vacation with Mami, we make Sayaka bleach her hair and give her instructions on how to take our place?
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(Just imagine Sayaka awkwardly trying to hug Homura because Sabrina insisted Homu should get at least one hug a day).
Slith10
Back from the dead and ready to party!
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- New Zealand
Sayaka doesn't let go of her dislike of people and in this case it might cross over into actual hate.
Sayaka is selfish at heart, that's why she tends to self-destruct in such a way with no regard to those around her.
This is exactly what we must break the blueberry of. Note that we're not going to be able to do that if Sayaka labels us a liar and a manipulator.
On the plus side, we've already making progress, in that we've gotten her to change her mind about Homura. Even Homura recognizes the rarity and difficulty of this feat: it's in fact why she's actually allowing herself to feel hope and be a little vulnerable again. This, in my opinion, is a victory that we can build upon, to reforge Sayaka into a less rigid, and therefore less brittle, personality.
On the minus side, she still has that stubborn sense of personal honor. She calls it heroism, but really it's selfishness, the belief that she must succeed on her own merits or not at all. It's a dangerous belief for so green a meguca to have, and we must break her of it before she rejects any and all help, resulting in Octavia.
In this way, Oriko is, IMO, the perfect teachable moment, because she also has the same selfishness, a selfishness that led her to rely wholly on her power rather than thinking things through first, and resulted in her breaking Hitomi's leg and burning down Sayaka's house in the name of her Greater Good. That's the problem with only gathering sycophants around you, as Oriko did, or worse still never listening to anyone else and relying only on yourself, as Sayaka does: there's no one to call you out when you're doing something bone-headed, like making a selfish wish and selling your soul to an alien used car salesman. We really need to pound this lesson hard into Sayaka, for reasons that go far beyond getting her to become friends with O+K, though it does seem to me a likely side-effect of teaching her this lesson is at least a detente between Sayaka and O+K.
(This conversation, BTW, should be had in front of Madoka, but probably not anywhere near Oriko+Kirika: Sayaka won't likely be ready to meet those two for days, maybe weeks. OTOH, this is also a good way to further hammer in the essential selfishness of what Sayaka just did, in order to further persuade Madoka to not do the same thing.)
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theauthor
Birdie
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- Soerabaja
The best parts we probaly don't talk about ugomura as much as it is now had you guys don't bring it up.
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We have Kyouko in our head, so we inherit the Best Girl property.
Maximum drama answer: "Nothing. Someone else who looks like them threatened Madoka."
Homura: [RAGE INTENSIFIES]
Sabrina: Hey, what can I say? You won't answer for yourself, so she gets to hear my take. You knew that was what I think about this.
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That's quite good, any chance of Madoka or Hitomi harsh/strong in responding to Sayaka's problem?
I wonder if Sabrina breaks Sayaka, would she be our second limpet?
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Sayaka would limpet with swords.
Like hugging a porcupine more than a hedgehog. Of course once she mellow out its a hedgehog.
I'm not sure what you mean. I do want to sit all three of them down and talk out the whole Oriko situation, why she thought she was doing the right thing, why she was wrong, how even now she is so deluded into thinking that she must be the one to save the world with her power that her own magic is rebelling against her. There are important lessons there for both Madoka and Sayaka, and really Hitomi deserves to know how and why her leg was broken in the first place.
Hah, no. Sayaka's not the type to be destroyed by this revelation the way Mami was. She has a full support system, friends and family. She just needs to be reminded to rely on them sometimes, that single-minded determination can be harmful as much as it can be helpful.
In contrast, Mami has, up to the point when we lichbombed her, patterned her entire life to better serve the cause of being a magical girl, of saving lives even if that means alienating others, isolating herself, even recruiting other magical girls for Kyubey because she thought it was her friend. We have, at a stroke, uprooted her entire life and set her adrift, with Sabrina herself as her only remaining constant. The only saving grace there is that at this point she'll likely not go full-bore Tetris on everyone if she gets Witchbombed, since the foundations of her life that the Witchbomb would destroy have already been uprooted.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Well, that doesn't mean we can't break Sayaka and limpet her.
We'd just have to be less emotional and more mechanical about it.
Of course, we're not gonna vote for that, so it's up to Dedolere to do it whenever she comes around.
Loktarogar
The Apex of Cuddling
- Location
- Brazil
Limpeting people, is the new term here now.
Sabrina would look like a pimp a mami and a sayaka on each arm.
Sabrina would look like a pimp a mami and a sayaka on each arm.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
... That would require clones.
So... finally, we're gonna manage to develop cloning just so we can have more mami hugs.
Makes sense.
DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
- Location
- San Diego, California
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- He/Him
Can't we just get Kyoko and Sayaka to be friends and thus give Yuma more big sisters?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
She'd be more like Yuma's aunt.
Higure
Witch of Faith
- Location
- The Golden Land
Wouldn't that make Sayaka Yuma's unofficial adopted father?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Can't a girl have two moms?
Geez... Poor Sabrina doesn't need to wonder if it's OK to have a Madomom and a Homumom.
Or was it a Momdoka and a Momura?
We should get this on paper.