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I will shamelessly repost this.
universalperson said:
[q]"My body is made from a wish
My blood is of magic and my heart is of hope
I exist to break the system
Never retreating from it
Never submitting to it
Forging grief into what will bring hope
Waiting for a witch's arrival
This is the only path, I have no regrets.
My whole life has been

UNLIMITED
GRIEF
WORKS"
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FelOnyx said:
Something like:
"So what did you think about those two?"
"They seem like nice people. What's their story, anyway?"
"They were trying to save the world."
"Awesome!"
"They were really, really bad at it. Like, "burned your house down" bad."
"By accident?"
"No, on purpose. They thought burning your house down would save the world."
"..."
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"Didn't work, by the way."

"... Grrr?"

"Turns out the one supposed to attack you also can change the future."

"..."

"I say also, because I do that, too."

"..."

"So it's not a shocker, or anything..."

"Grrr..."

"So you don't think you can let bygones...?"

[TEETH GRINDING INTENSIFIES]

"... Don't do anything you will regret?"

"...rrrrrr..." *nods*

"I'm glad we could see eye to eye on this."

*Leaps away*

"That went better than expected."


'Sabrina! Help! There's some crazy girl and she's throwing molotovs and she's got a sword and-'

'Don't hurt her! She's a friend!'

'That's what Oriko said but I can't- duck!'

'You can't du-?'

'Stop her! Shit! She's got a fire extinguisher! What is she doing with t-'

'Kirika?... Kirika?'

*Looks around*

"KIRIKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

*Makes sure nobody heard*

*Nods*

"... Better. Than. Expected."
 
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Onmur said:
"Didn't work, by the way."

"... Grrr?"

"Turns out the one supposed to attack you also can change the future."

"..."

"I say also, because I do that, too."

"..."

"So it's not a shocker, or anything..."

"Grrr..."

"So you don't think you can let bygones...?"

[TEETH GRINDING INTENSIFIES]

"... Don't do anything you will regret?"

"...rrrrrr..." *nods*

"I'm glad we could see eye to eye on this."

*Leaps away*

"That went better than expected."


'Sabrina! Help! There's some crazy girl and she's throwing molotovs and-'

'Don't hurt her! She's a friend!'

'That's what Oriko said but I can't- duck!'

'You can't d-'

'Stop her! Shit! She's got a fire extinguisher! What is she doing with t-'

'Kirika? Kirika?'

*Looks around*

"KIRIKAAAAAAA!"

*Makes sure nobody heard*

*Nods*

"... Better. Than. Expected."
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"Don't worry you will probably recover from the resulting skull fracture."
 
Knightfall said:
"Don't worry you will probably recover from the resulting skull fracture."
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Silly. Can't tell that to Kirika since she's unconscious.

So pass the message.

'Sayaka, can you tell Kirika she's gonna be fine and recover from that?'

'... Which one's Kirika?'

'The one bleeding from her skull, I think.'

'... Sooo... which one's Kirika?'

'... The one with the claws.'

'Got it.'
 
Redshirt Army said:
Prototype Oriko Talk.

"I'm sorry, Sayaka. There's something that me, and Mami, and Homura, should probably have told you earlier, before, and we didn't. But... you need to know this, and you deserve to know this.

After... the fire, the three of us hunted down a new magical girl Mami and I had seen while approaching your apartment. It was difficult, but we managed to incapacitate her and her accomplice. And, yes, she was the one that burned down your home. Apparently she's a precognitive, which is how she was able to make so much trouble for us, and apparently she thought burning down your home would 'make the future better'.

I'm not saying this to excuse her. What Mikuni Oriko did was wrong on a great number of levels, and I had to ... I had to threaten her a great deal to get her to back down. But... We had her at our mercy, Sayaka. And I didn't want to kill her. Magical Girls... between the memory modifications Kyubey does to keep magic secret, the abilities of a magical girl to escape normal police, and the consequences of letting soul gems go without cleansing... Normal prison isn't an option. We've been keeping her and her accomplice under house arrest, and trying to convince them to... give up their wicked ways, I guess?

I'm... Again, I'm sorry, Sayaka. We should have told you earlier."
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Ehhh. Too apologetic. I have something different in mind- we do need to apologize for not telling her, but we need to explain why she did it properly and AFTER Sayaka's met them. Emphasizing that she HAS been punished. That she's saved her life and the lives of others since, and that she's dying now. Ask Sayaka what she thinks should happen to her- or Oriko.

o3o said:
I say we introduce Sayaka to them under neutral circumstances, and let blueberry know we want her unbiased opinion of them for something. (And we'll explain to her afterwards) Let best buddy be best.

Then, after the impression (hopefully good) is formed, we tell her everything. We've told her that we want to help misguided meguca, and, well... Saving the world is something Blueberry should approve of.
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Yeah, my plan involves this.
 
Ugolino said:
Ehhh. Too apologetic. I have something different in mind- we do need to apologize for not telling her, but we need to explain why she did it properly and AFTER Sayaka's met them. Emphasizing that she HAS been punished. That she's saved her life and the lives of others since, and that she's dying now. Ask Sayaka what she thinks should happen to her- or Oriko.


Yeah, my plan involves this.
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Not a huge fan of doing the "psyche!" thing with Sayaka with respect to Oriko. It might make her feel like we're being too flippant about something deeply important to her on a personal level.

One thing that we should probably do is emphasize that Oriko is being punished not just for her actions with respect to Sayaka, but also for the other people she's harmed. Hitomi and the other residents of Sayaka's building in particular. If Sayaka thinks that we're performing magical girl moral exceptionalism, it might proc her Hero of Justice instincts.
 
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We could note that Oriko also threatened us and Mami, and used a bomb to blow our legs off our torso. House Arrest was our idea, and Mami agreed...

On one hand, she hurt us too, so if we're willing to look past it - and remember, Sabrina is chilling with Mami on Blueberry's JUSTICE METER [especially given the whole BREAK THE SYSTEM AND SAVE ALL THE MEGUCA] - she should as well. If she intends to be a Hero of Justice™... well, it's appealing to the redemption and mercy and whatnot, while not feeling unfair because "you weren't the only one Oriko hurt."

But on the other hand, it heaps more "evil" onto Oriko and Kirka's plates, and gives Blueberry that much more reason to dislike them.

Hmm.
 
o3o said:
We could note that Oriko also threatened us and Mami, and used a bomb to blow our legs off our torso. House Arrest was our idea, and Mami agreed...

On one hand, she hurt us too, so if we're willing to look past it - and remember, Sabrina is chilling with Mami on Blueberry's JUSTICE METER [especially given the whole BREAK THE SYSTEM AND SAVE ALL THE MEGUCA] - she should as well. If she intends to be a Hero of Justice™... well, it's appealing to the redemption and mercy and whatnot, while not feeling unfair because "you weren't the only one Oriko hurt."

But on the other hand, it heaps more "evil" onto Oriko and Kirka's plates, and gives Blueberry that much more reason to dislike them.

Hmm.
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I am of the opinion that downplaying Oriko's actions is doomed to fail for the same reason that keeping them secret entirely is. Thus, letting Sayaka know that Mami and Sabrina were also targeted by Oriko is ultimately necessary.

I'd rather have Sayaka stick by her principles and treat Oriko and Kirika in accordance with them than try to have her tolerate them under false pretenses.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Not a huge fan of doing the "psyche!" thing with Sayaka with respect to Oriko. It might make her feel like we're being too flippant about something deeply important to her on a personal level.

One thing that we should probably do is emphasize that Oriko is being punished not just for her actions with respect to Sayaka, but also for the other people she's harmed. Hitomi and the other residents of Sayaka's building in particular. If Sayaka thinks that we're performing magical girl moral exceptionalism, it might proc her Hero of Justice instincts.
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Nah, we need her to see them as people first or this really won't work.
 
That's the idea of the neutral first impression.
If she meets Berserkirika on an ORIKOOOOOOO rampage, then she'll be firmly locked in as a [Villain]. On the other hand, if she meets Bestbuddy-Kirika, she's prolly significantly more likely to be sympathetic and willing to forgive, or at least tolerate, them - at least more so then she would otherwise.
 
Sayaka: "What did they do to Homura, though? She's..."

Homura: [FUMING]

Sabrina: "Yeah, you'll have to ask her yourself."

Sayaka: "... Pass."
 
Just an FYI, guys, and this is not an April Fool's joke - I won't be doing anything for April Fool's day, and I likely won't be updating this week, possibly not the next either. My thesis submission is Monday, I have a test Friday, and then I have my thesis presentation the Wednesday after. Huzzah.
 
Firnagzen said:
Just an FYI, guys, and this is not an April Fool's joke - I won't be doing anything for April Fool's day, and I likely won't be updating this week, possibly not the next either. My thesis submission is Monday, I have a test Friday, and then I have my thesis presentation the Wednesday after. Huzzah.
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Firnagzen is dead. Now I reign supreme over this thread! Bow down before your new overlord, mortals! :V
 
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