Sabrina: Sayaka your saying you can shoot EXPLODING SWORDS

Sayaka: ... Yes

Sabrina: HUGS ALL THE HUGS!!!

Sayaka: Get away from me!

Sabrina: LET ME HUG YOU
Sabrina: *Learn SAYAKA can make swords that HUG you in order to IMMOBILIZE you so they can BLOW YOU THE FUCK UP*

Sabrina: *HUG SAYAKA*

Makes sense.

Exploding swords, nothing. Firn has said that we could pull off the entirety of Shirou's fight against Gilgamesh, if we really tried and put enough effort into it, complete with Reality Marble and Noble Phantasm replicas.
(And it would probably be easier to just shred everything)

Though, that's an insane amount of concentration, not that Sabrina doesn't possess that already, but IIRC, Shirou was creating dozens of completely new and different weapons per second, doing the whole involved 8 step process for each of them, and also copying their trajectory down to the fraction of a second they were thrown...

...Guys.
You know what's better then MECHA GURREN ZILLA LAGANN?
MECHA GURREN ZILLA LAGANN...WITH UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS.
Meh. Why would we want swords when we can YELL REAL LOUD and blow things away like that. :p

Plus, we've got Mami throwing Tiro Finale...

Of course... we need to make a drill.

*Sabrina randomly puts on a hard hat*

Mami: ?

Homura: *Shrug*
 
Exploding swords, nothing. Firn has said that we could pull off the entirety of Shirou's fight against Gilgamesh if we really tried and put enough effort into it, complete with Reality Marble and Noble Phantasm replicas.

I am the light of my soul
Grief is my body and hope is my blood
I have created over a thousand ripples
Unaware of loss, Nor aware of gain
Have withstood pain to create many changes
I have no regrets. This is the only path
So as I pray, unlimited grief works.
 
Sabrina: *Learn SAYAKA can make swords that HUG you in order to IMMOBILIZE you so they can BLOW YOU THE FUCK UP*

Sabrina: *HUG SAYAKA*

Makes sense.


(And it would probably be easier to just shred everything)

Though, that's an insane amount of concentration, not that Sabrina doesn't possess that already, but IIRC, Shirou was creating dozens of completely new and different weapons per second, doing the whole involved 8 step process for each of them, and also copying their trajectory down to the fraction of a second they were thrown...
Well, the wish was to control all grief. Controling a multitude of instruments, manipulating them appropriately while keeping them in time with each other would also be pretty difficult, but Sabrina can do it as a background function.
...we should see if manipulating, say, 10 marbles, uses more magic then 20. Does making witch-stuff generate more then normal griefbending...?

Meh. Why would we want swords when we can YELL REAL LOUD and blow things away like that. :p

Plus, we've got Mami throwing Tiro Finale...

Of course... we need to make a drill.

*Sabrina randomly puts on a hard hat*
Cause it's awesome.
Duh.
 
I am the light of my soul
Grief is my body and hope is my blood
I have created over a thousand ripples
Unaware of loss, Nor aware of gain
Have withstood pain to create many changes
I have no regrets. This is the only path
So as I pray, unlimited grief works.
Doesn't really fit...

Butterfly flapping? :V

We kind of cheat by turning it off...

...

History repeats itself...
Unlimited Kirika works? : P

You asked for it.


I am the bucket of my hat.
Complex are my plots, and shady are my methods.
I have created over a thousand plans.
Unknown to straightforward communication.
Nor known to microwaved tea.
Have withstood Grief to troll many Homu's.
Yet, those plans will never solve anything.
So as I pray, Unlimited Kirika Works.
 
At least post the best version. :V

"Her mind is made out of plots."

Aww, not the English version?
I'm not translating the English translation back to Japanese, that's asinine.
"Her blood is reason and her heart unseen!"

You're getting surprisingly into this.
She actually kinda liked Fate/Zero.
She would, it's a depressing story with a foregone conclusion.
By the same author.

What?
Nothing.
"She survived through countless schemes
Not even once regretting
Not even once being understood."

Ugh, did you have to do Archer's? It's so gloomy.
"Yet she was never alone
Trapped after failure upon an ocean of plots.
Thus, she cannot find meaning"

At least she knows she isn't alone. Still, c'mon, you're so close.
Also, missed a prime "these eyes will never see anything" blind oracle joke.
"That mind was certainly made out of plots."

Ooh, ooh, I wanna try!
Go ahead.
---
Sasha beat me to it, but I claim the moral victory.
 
"Her mind is made out of plots."

Aww, not the English version?
I'm not translating the English translation back to Japanese, that's asinine.
"Her blood is reason and her heart unseen!"

You're getting surprisingly into this.
She actually kinda liked Fate/Zero.
She would, it's a depressing story with a foregone conclusion.
By the same author.

What?
Nothing.
"She survived through countless schemes
Not even once regretting
Not even once being understood."

Ugh, did you have to do Archer's? It's so gloomy.
"Yet she was never alone
Trapped after failure upon an ocean of plots.
Thus, she cannot find meaning"

At least she knows she isn't alone. Still, c'mon, you're so close.
Also, missed a prime "these eyes will never see anything" blind oracle joke.
"That mind was certainly made out of plots."

Ooh, ooh, I wanna try!
Go ahead.
---
Sasha beat me to it, but I claim the moral victory.
This seems to be implying that Sabrina dislikes Fate/Zero.
Sabrina confirmed for bad taste.
 
Except Excalibur isn't in UBW because "lol faeries"
We're making grief-constructs that have similar properties; it's not the actual UBW.

And, even then, going by...Extra Archer, both the Archer Illyas, and HF Shirou, UBW is at least capable of producing something extremely close to Excalibur.
 
We're making grief-constructs that have similar properties; it's not the actual UBW.
Fair.



Moon Cell simulation not guaranteed 100% accuracy.
both the Archer Illyas
Non-canon for numerous reasons, the fact that it's mechanics do not match up with the rest of the Nasuverse among them.
Caliburn, which is admittedly just a discount Excalibur with a higher chance of breaking.
 
Fair.




Moon Cell simulation not guaranteed 100% accuracy.
If you're holding a Grief-Replica of UBW to Fate standards, I don't see why I can't do the same for Extra...which is in the right franchise.

Non-canon for numerous reasons, the fact that it's mechanics do not match up with the rest of the Nasuverse among them.
And... we're discussing a grief-replica of UBW. Why does it need to stick to the main-verse's UBW rather than any other ones?
Caliburn, which is admittedly just a discount Excalibur with a higher chance of breaking.
:Citation Needed:

Iunno, the image looks exactly like
I think Archer also tells Saber he could use it on her in UBW route.

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HF Route said:
I'll destroy it.
I'll destroy the giant magic circle, and the shadow along with it.
Angra Manyu's fetal activity is slowly destroying the cavern.
…But I don't think it'll die even if the cavern collapses.
I have to destroy that thing here and now.

Is it possible?
…Yes, it's possible.
I'll go as near it as I can and attack it with great force.

Angra Manyu can't move as long as it's in the black fire.
I'll cleave it in two before he can emerge.
If there's anything capable of such a feat, it's



The greatest Noble Phantasm I know of.
Caliburn wouldn't be considered greater then Excalibur. And that's clearly a picture of Excalibur Morgan...
 
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Do remember Sabrina creates stuff out of Grief, with whichever properties Grief can give...

So of course we can replicate Excalibur!

... In appearance and general effect, that is, we can make a similar sword that can shoot LZRZ, with a persistent effect of invisibility, though in this case it would, ironically, make the sword easier to perceive... though it might still make it harder to someone to know how long the sword is, which might have some use...

(At least if they can't see us change the size of the weapon mid fight because we're cheaters?)

Now... what would be interesting; what if we made Sabrina create Excalibur, and Grief could make it mostly happen, but we believed Excalibur couldn't be made by anybody?

Would believing something is impossible to do, make it so Sabrina can't use Grief transmutation to do it?

In one of the canon routes, doesn't Archer also imply that he could Trace Excalibur, but only as a ragequit suicide attack?
Pretty sure he straight up says it in UBW.

Only if we scale up the size of the weapons so that they can be wielded by MGZL :V
We'd obviously end up with a giant drill, regardless of what we think we're gonna make at the time...

And Mami would be wielding it.

One-handed.
 
Prototype Oriko Talk.

"I'm sorry, Sayaka. There's something that me, and Mami, and Homura, should probably have told you earlier, before, and we didn't. But... you need to know this, and you deserve to know this.

After... the fire, the three of us hunted down a new magical girl Mami and I had seen while approaching your apartment. It was difficult, but we managed to incapacitate her and her accomplice. And, yes, she was the one that burned down your home. Apparently she's a precognitive, which is how she was able to make so much trouble for us, and apparently she thought burning down your home would 'make the future better'.

I'm not saying this to excuse her. What Mikuni Oriko did was wrong on a great number of levels, and I had to ... I had to threaten her a great deal to get her to back down. But... We had her at our mercy, Sayaka. And I didn't want to kill her. Magical Girls... between the memory modifications Kyubey does to keep magic secret, the abilities of a magical girl to escape normal police, and the consequences of letting soul gems go without cleansing... Normal prison isn't an option. We've been keeping her and her accomplice under house arrest, and trying to convince them to... give up their wicked ways, I guess?

I'm... Again, I'm sorry, Sayaka. We should have told you earlier."
 
I say we introduce Sayaka to them under neutral circumstances, and let blueberry know we want her unbiased opinion of them for something. (And we'll explain to her afterwards) Let best buddy be best.

Then, after the impression (hopefully good) is formed, we tell her everything. We've told her that we want to help misguided meguca, and, well... Saving the world is something Blueberry should approve of.
 
I say we introduce Sayaka to them under neutral circumstances, and let blueberry know we want her unbiased opinion of them for something. (And we'll explain to her afterwards) Let best buddy be best.

Then, after the impression (hopefully good) is formed, we tell her everything. We've told her that we want to help misguided meguca, and, well... Saving the world is something Blueberry should approve of.
Something like:
"So what did you think about those two?"
"They seem like nice people. What's their story, anyway?"
"They were trying to save the world."
"Awesome!"
"They were really, really bad at it. Like, "burned your house down" bad."
"By accident?"
"No, on purpose. They thought burning your house down would save the world."
"..."
 
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