The real question is what happens when a body is included in time stop while the soul gem isn't.
Works perfectly; Oriko's Soul Gem was on Kirika that one time, and Oriko was included into the time stop no problem.

Sabrina did wonder wtf.

I don't think that's a good point of comparison. I also don't know why is that, but probably the answer lie in the fact this grief is held close to us by our magical ability to control and bend grief.

Maybe I'm wrong about this tho.
It's been proposed that magic might treat our Grief as an extra limb of sorts; a part of our body.

Hell, since Grief is under our control as part of our Wish, maybe our Grief is even more a part of as than our body!

[Q] Rid Yourself of the Curse of Flesh!
-[Q] Make Yourself a New Vessel! One made of the grandious material that is Grief!
--[Q] Abandon your current flesh puppet in favour of the new, greater Grief body!
---[Q] You are now SABRINA, greater than meguca, greater than Witches, you. Are. THE STRONGEST!!!
 
As long as the soul gem is connected to the body, the gem would be pulled into the timestop too. That's why we can manuever our grief without contact in the time stop.

Yeah, but what if we left our soul gem on a table? Is the metaphysical connection enough, or do they need to be in physical contact?

And if a metaphysical connection is enough, and our grief counts as part of our body, what happens if Homura timestops while holding onto a grief marble?
 
Hell, since Grief is under our control as part of our Wish, maybe our Grief is even more a part of as than our body!

[Q] Rid Yourself of the Curse of Flesh!
-[Q] Make Yourself a New Vessel! One made of the grandious material that is Grief!
--[Q] Abandon your current flesh puppet in favour of the new, greater Grief body!
---[Q] You are now SABRINA, greater than meguca, greater than Witches, you. Are. THE STRONGEST!!!

So you're voting for me, then? :V

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[:V] Replacing our physical body with one made of grief!
 
Yeah, but what if we left our soul gem on a table? Is the metaphysical connection enough, or do they need to be in physical contact?

And if a metaphysical connection is enough, and our grief counts as part of our body, what happens if Homura timestops while holding onto a grief marble?

The metaphysical connection is enough. If Homura is holding a grief marble we'd be pulled into the timestop. Case and point we wrapped a grief ring around Megane and she was pulled in.
 
[Q] Rid Yourself of the Curse of Flesh!
-[Q] Make Yourself a New Vessel! One made of the grandious material that is Grief!
--[Q] Abandon your current flesh puppet in favour of the new, greater Grief body!
---[Q] You are now SABRINA, greater than meguca, greater than Witches, you. Are. THE STRONGEST!!!
I assume that we will end up looking somewhere between a Core and Guilty Spark, and based on that assumption I support this wholeheartedly.
 
Works perfectly; Oriko's Soul Gem was on Kirika that one time, and Oriko was included into the time stop no problem.

Sabrina did wonder wtf.


It's been proposed that magic might treat our Grief as an extra limb of sorts; a part of our body.

Hell, since Grief is under our control as part of our Wish, maybe our Grief is even more a part of as than our body!

[Q] Rid Yourself of the Curse of Flesh!
-[Q] Make Yourself a New Vessel! One made of the grandious material that is Grief!
--[Q] Abandon your current flesh puppet in favour of the new, greater Grief body!
---[Q] You are now SABRINA, greater than meguca, greater than Witches, you. Are. THE STRONGEST!!!
Cue anti-magic wave from Kirika. :V
 
Wait wat. Cite?

Because how even does that work? What happens to the grief accumulation of her soul gem while it's frozen?
"My Soul Gem is with Kirika," Oriko observes.

... wait.

Your hand, rising in a habitual gesture to cleanse Mami's and Homura's Soul Gems, pauses midair. You squint around at the grey hues of the timestop, and more importantly, at Kirika, just visible down the corridor. Frozen. You look back at Oriko, who simply frowns at you.
 
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Also,
You reach up to the jeweled pin on your chest that is your Soul Gem, and carefully unfasten it, before holding it out to her. "Just in case she somehow does something."

She twitches, staring at the Soul Gem in your hand. Her jaw works, as if she can't decide what to say.

"Look, Homura," you say, gently reaching out and taking the pistol from her hand. She lets you take it, fingers slack, and you press your own Soul Gem into her hand, and close her small, cold fingers around it. My life in your hands. "It'll work out, Homura, and we'll get you, and Madoka, and Mami, and Sakaya and Kyouko and everyone else your happy endings. The question here is whether Oriko and Kirika will be there to see it."

"Why are you giving her the chance?" Homura asks. Her left hand, holding Oriko's Soul Gem, hangs freely by her side, in contrast with yours, held out between you like a warding shield.

You look away, casting your gaze out over the rusting machinery and old buildings around you. "I don't want to kill her. I... you saw how she reacted to what I told her about Margot. She doesn't known everything, and she can be shaken. If I can... I'd rather talk her down."

You take a deep breath, and meet Homura's eyes. "But if we can't, then as I said, I'll help you. My mess, my responsibility."

She shakes her head slowly. "You can't be this naive."

"I'm making progress," you argue. "You saw how she reacted!"

"She could be acting," Homura counters.

"Could she?" Your eyebrows arch high. You certainly don't think she was.

Homura's lips twist, but she seems to concede the point.

"So, if she'll only talk if you can't hear, then I'll humour her. But in any case, Homura, I'd feel a lot safer if you could take overwatch. If she does anything funny, well..." you gesture at Oriko's Soul Gem. "We need to be connected, so I could use my Grief to form a trail to connect us?"

She nods slowly, letting the hand holding your Soul Gem fall to her side. "That won't be necessary," she says, carefully untying the rope from around her waist. "I have a longer rope." She lets go of her end of the rop-

-e. You grimace. "Ugh. Never going to get used to that." Homura's tying a brightly coloured length of rope to the one currently bound around your waist, and you follow that rope with your eyes - it trails across the landscape, reaching to the top of some old, half built structure, all exposed steel and I-beams. Homura nods at you, finishing the knot, and then lets g-

-o again. "Argh," you mumble into the floor.

Wait, why are you on the floor?

You push yourself up, off the floor, and look at the old structure where the rope led to... where the rope doesn't lead to.

...
We did gave our Soul Gem to Homura, and got caught in timestop while she held it, so it really shouldn't have surprised us that Oriko could enter timestop while Kirika had her Soul.
 
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We did gave our Soul Gem to Homura, and got caught in timestop while she held it, so it really shouldn't have surprised us that Oriko could enter timestop while Kirika had her Soul.

This one's much less surprising. We know that being disconnected from your body causes unconsciousness and loss of time perception, and thus not being aware when your soul is in time stop but your body isn't makes sense.

I wouldn't expect that result if we were maintaining awareness from the gem itself, though.
 
I would vote for Sabrina to turn herself into a cyborg (can't suffer rejection, grief can BS it) but her normal body seems already boosted by magic already anyways. However, we .... could replace a bit of her joints in order to allow a greater freedom of motion. 360 wrist rotation, if anything. And maybe owl-level neck spinning.
And maybe radar.

(Why are we all that worried about grief damaging our flesh puppet again? We can grow it back if it does anything, as long as it doesn't touch our soul gem)
Mami will do her usual response? :V
"Oh Sabrina"
 
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[x] Check up on Oriko and Kirika.
[x] Get a maid outfit.
-[x] Prepare breakfast.
-[x] Bring it upstairs.
-[x] "GOOD MORNING SLEEPYHEADS!"
-[x] Breakfast in bed.
-- [x] Pictures, if any, can wait until they are properly awake and can decide to pose for one.
-- [x] Take one of yourself, at least.
[x] Continue previous vote.
 
[x] Check up on Oriko and Kirika.
[x] Get a maid outfit.
-[x] Prepare breakfast.
-[x] Bring it upstairs.
-[x] "GOOD MORNING SLEEPYHEADS!"
-[x] Breakfast in bed.
-- [x] Pictures, if any, can wait until they are properly awake and can decide to pose for one.
-- [x] Take one of yourself, at least.
[x] Continue previous vote.
 
I would vote for Sabrina to turn herself into a cyborg (can't suffer rejection, grief can BS it) but her normal body seems already boosted by magic already anyways. However, we .... could replace a bit of her joints in order to allow a greater freedom of motion. 360 wrist rotation, if anything. And maybe owl-level neck spinning.
And maybe radar.
And then next time we get nailed by Kirika's antimagic or a similar effect, we fall apart at the seams like Ms. Fortune. That ought to turn some heads. :p
I would pay good money to prank Sakura with this, just to see the look on her face

Fun fact: Had A: Mami's Soul Gem not been on her hat when mogumogu happened and B: she been lichbombed at the time (and thus not necessarily have witched out immediately), she (or Oriko after Homura sawed her head off with an LMG) could have just kept fighting as a Dullahan.
 
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And then next time we get nailed by Kirika's antimagic or a similar effect, we fall apart at the seams like Ms. Fortune. That ought to turn some heads. :p
I would pay good money to prank Sakura with this, just to see the look on her face

Fun fact: Had A: Mami's Soul Gem not been on her hat when mogumogu happened and B: she been lichbombed at the time (and thus not necessarily have witched out immediately), she (or Oriko after Homura sawed her head off with an LMG) could have just kept fighting as a Dullahan.
Could she make a motorcycle out of ribbons?
 
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