Is Ono magically diabetic, then?

You know, come to think of it, so might be our friendly catatonic water-mage. She didn't respond very well to sugar either.

Maybe magic insulin? I have no idea what that would translate to though.

In all seriousness, I think it's time to go "western" style now. Eastern culture frowns upon confrontations and would generally prefer to save face while passive-aggressively sabotaging the target of their ire. By forcing a confrontation now, we can effectively "lance the boil" in order to deal with the fallout all at once right here, right now. I personally would not want to deal with Megane being passive-aggressive for the forseable future.
 
Alas, if it were only that easy. We could have just let her witch out, killed her, get the grief seed, and went on our merry way.

But that would not be right, especially for White Knight Sabrina, Friend to all she meets.

Being the responsible adult in a world full of teenagers sucks.
 
I think, that given how we have decided to go the aggressive route, we should go the aggressive route.

[x] Pin Ono to the wall with Grief.
-[x] Stab a shap bit of grief into the wall by her throat while yelling "DO YOU WANT TO DIE?" in her face.
-[x] When she indicates she doesn't want to die, lichbomb her and explain about how emotions and magic use can kill her and the importance of keeping her gem clean.
 
Did anybody say every meguca should experience 95% Gem corruption?

Not saying we should do that, but I'm totally saying it's tempting.
 
This is a terrible idea. Obviously we are thankful, but Ono is right there, so it's not the time nor the place to thank Mami, since that would just be more fuel for Ono's anger.
We've cocked up being nice about it. After a certain point, as long as it's safe, it's better to just let an angry person be angry because it will burn itself out.
 
Why is everyone so angry that Ono is angry?
If you step back and take a look at the situation, it's perfectly normal that she would be absolutely pissed right now.
After repeatedly telling us that she doesn't want to see us, we broke into her home and more importantly her room to confront her anyway.
If you look at this from Ono's perspective, she has every reason to be pissed. Sure, Sabrina wants to help her, but Ono hasn't really acknowledged this fact yet and doesn't have the full picture of her new magical girlness.
Megane struggles fruitlessly, trying to break out of the restraints. "Release me," she snaps, glaring at Mami. "Release me! Leave, and stop telling me what to do!"
Going by this line Ono doesn't think we are doing all this crap for her benefit, but instead believes that we are doing everything for our own gain and want to make a loyal minion out of her or something along those lines.

Again:
If this happened in Ono quest, the players would be absolutely losing their shit right now, because that annoying, crazy Sabrina chick just broke into their house and is still making demands even though they told her to piss off.. She even brainwashed Mami and Homura to fuel her evil agenda.
 
Again:
If this happened in Ono quest, the players would be absolutely losing their shit right now, because that annoying, crazy Sabrina chick just broke into their house and is still making demands even though they told her to piss off.. She even brainwashed Mami and Homura to fuel her evil agenda.

To be fair, the players in Ono quest would have the metaknowledge to know that what Sabrina is talking about isn't exactly nonsense either. Those same players would also have accepted the meeting under normal circumstances.
 
Why is everyone so angry that Ono is angry?
If you step back and take a look at the situation, it's perfectly normal that she would be absolutely pissed right now.
After repeatedly telling us that she doesn't want to see us, we broke into her home and more importantly her room to confront her anyway.
If you look at this from Ono's perspective, she has every reason to be pissed. Sure, Sabrina wants to help her, but Ono hasn't really acknowledged this fact yet and doesn't have the full picture of her new magical girlness.

Going by this line Ono doesn't think we are doing all this crap for her benefit, but instead believes that we are doing everything for our own gain and want to make a loyal minion out of her or something along those lines.

Again:
If this happened in Ono quest, the players would be absolutely losing their shit right now, because that annoying, crazy Sabrina chick just broke into their house and is still making demands even though they told her to piss off.. She even brainwashed Mami and Homura to fuel her evil agenda.
It's perfectly normal for anybody her age to not want people to tell them what to do. That much seems simple enough.

I'm not really angry at Ono, but I think she needs to exhaust her own anger at this point. It's not about being right, but about her being able to live when everything doesn't go according to plan.

Really, we missed one meeting with her, mind it was an important one, but still, just one. It's not gonna be the last time it happens; we, or somebody else, will fail Ono at some point, and we can't let that mean Ono won't make it through to the next day.
 
Alas, if it were only that easy. We could have just let her witch out, killed her, get the grief seed, and went on our merry way.

But that would not be right, especially for White Knight Sabrina, Friend to all she meets.

Being the responsible adult in a world full of teenagers sucks.
Imagine if we had let Homura kill Oriko.

No Sendai warning, no Ono warning, no Soujos warning...
 

Welp.

Anyway, everyone is feeling outraged and annoyed right now, but this was kind of the predictable somewhat justified reaction. Except for the comment about Mami and Homura. I kind of want to punch her in the mouth for that one. Except that would be the opposite of helpful. Need to continue being calm. She's not our enemy nor is are we opposed or trying to bypass her like Akiko. She's someone that we want to help. And we need to keep behaving like we want to help her instead of completely losing our tempers.

But she did give away a couple of things here, which I'm actually glad about. Evidently, she thinks we're like some kind of mob boss trying to bully her. So, being all forceful and angry probably won't help. And if we do try to get her speak out and be angered further, I'd suggest we be very careful about how we do it, otherwise we come off as a bully and reinforce her impression of us.
 
We've cocked up being nice about it. After a certain point, as long as it's safe, it's better to just let an angry person be angry because it will burn itself out.
We're well past the point of worrying about being "nice". But as Guilop said, Ono has plenty of valid reasons to be angry at us, and thanking Mami for one of the things that angers her (i.e. her current state of confinement) will only add unnecessary fuel to the fire. We need to confront Ono directly and tell her exactly why we broke in (i.e. her life was in danger). Any side comments to Mami (or Homura) are unnecessary right now and would just give Ono more (valid) reasons to be angry at us.
 
Right now, I want to break her staff. I really don't want it used on us, and she can make a new one later, this would probably only result in her getting angryer though.
 
And we should try to keep it that way.
Evidently, she thinks we're like some kind of mob boss trying to bully her.
Ono doesn't have a 'normal' perspective on the meguca world. She sees our behavior as really bad, because she doesn't have the bigger picture to draw comparisons.

She needs that bigger picture, I think. It's her life now, it'll be easier to accept distasteful things, like being kicked around Sabrina's schedule if she realizes it's the best option out of many bad options.

Of course, it's hard to give her the big picture when she can't deal with it on her own.

Maybe we could pretend, or something. Ask Mami if we would be better off doing the 'normal' thing, kicking her out the city.
 
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Ehh. I don't know about the Onmur vote. I especially don't think we should thank Mami out loud. Kind of a wall of text, what do you guys think for edits?

[X] Smile at Mami, and nod in appreciation.
[X] If interrupted, allow her to finish, then continue.
[X] Ono, I know you want me to leave you alone. And hell, I can't be in many places at once, so most magical girls have never been bothered by me. Thing is? A huge portion of them are dead.
[X] You don't know what you've gotten yourself into with your contract. Witches are dangerous, sure, but there's something else I bet you don't even know about.
[X] Your soul gem? That's you. Kyubey didn't tell you. Kuybey doesn't tell anyone. You know that black stuff that accumulates in it? It's called grief. If it fills up, you're dead.
[X] So most girls have to risk their lives every night fighting those witches. Most girls can't afford to take a night off. And one night? They either run out, or get killed because they let their guard down.
[X] I am offering you a chance to avoid that. To be able to cleanse your gem whenever you need it. To avoid fights you aren't ready for.
[X] My power is unique, in that I can cleanse people's gems. I want to use it to make sure you never want for grief seeds. That's all I want, Ono. Literally all you have to do is accept the grief seeds I don't need and use them appropriately.

Edit: derp.
 
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Ehh. I don't know about the Onmur vote. I especially don't think we should thank Mami out loud. Kind of a wall of text, what do you guys think for edits?

[X] Telepathy: Thank you, Mami.
[X] If interrupted, allow her to finish, then continue.
[X] Ono, I know you want me to leave you alone. And hell, I can't be in many places at once, so most magical girls have never been bothered by me. Thing is? A huge portion of them are dead.
[X] You don't know what you've gotten yourself into with your contract. Witches are dangerous, sure, but there's something else I bet you don't even know about.
[X] Your soul gem is more important than you know. You know that black stuff that accumulates in it? It's called grief. If it fills up, you're dead.
[X] So most girls have to risk their lives every night fighting those witches. Most girls can't afford to take a night off. And one night? They either run out, or get killed because they let their guard down.
[X] I am offering you a chance to avoid that. To be able to cleanse your gem whenever you need it. To avoid fights you aren't ready for.
[X] My power is unique, in that I can cleanse people's gems. I want to use it to make sure you never want for grief seeds. That's all I want, Ono. Literally all you have to do is accept the grief seeds I don't need and use them appropriately.

Timestop = no telepathy
 
[X] Ono, I know you want me to leave you alone. And hell, I can't be in many places at once, so most magical girls have never been bothered by me. Thing is? A huge portion of them are dead.
[X] You don't know what you've gotten yourself into with your contract. Witches are dangerous, sure, but there's something else I bet you don't even know about.
[X] Your soul gem is more important than you know. You know that black stuff that accumulates in it? It's called grief. If it fills up, you're dead.
[X] So most girls have to risk their lives every night fighting those witches. Most girls can't afford to take a night off. And one night? They either run out, or get killed because they let their guard down.
[X] I am offering you a chance to avoid that. To be able to cleanse your gem whenever you need it. To avoid fights you aren't ready for.
[X] My power is unique, in that I can cleanse people's gems. I want to use it to make sure you never want for grief seeds. That's all I want, Ono. Literally all you have to do is accept the grief seeds I don't need and use them appropriately.
Why aren't you for lichbombing her?
 
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