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I feel like there's nothing for us to say until Ono's calmed down. Just let her scream and yell and what ever else until it's clear to her that we're not going anywhere until we've said our piece.
 
Muramasa said:
Remember Akiko?
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In my opinion, that worked out.
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I wouldn't necessarily say that it worked out but rather that it could have gone a lot worse. And the Akiko situation has definitely not been resolved. When last we saw her, she was catatonic (which was an improvement over her previous condition of "homicidal"), and her group realized that Akiko was not a good choice for a leader. But things are going to change once she wakes up; we still need to figure out what was up with Kato Setsuko and get Akiko to come to terms with it before that situation can truly be called "resolved". I suspect that our meeting to cleanse the Sendai group this weekend will be interesting.
 
cmwatford said:
I feel like there's nothing for us to say until Ono's calmed down. Just let her scream and yell and what ever else until it's clear to her that we're not going anywhere until we've said our piece.
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If there's a chance she's coherent enough to hear we're offering to do what she wants, we need to take it. If she doesn't answer, we can spend next round sitting around until she calms down, but no reason to not try.
 
Onmur said:
@Muramasa
We need less words. More meaning.

[] I'm sorry Megane, I can't do that. Your ignorance is killing you, so I'm not leaving until we've this talk.
[] If you want a moment to collect yourself, that's fine. If you'd like to do this outside, that's also fine. That's up to you.

I think this is about the maximum amount of words we have to convince her. The explanation part is fine, but the first part should be specially concise and severe.
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We were considering giving her some space, correct? In that case my whole vote needs to be reevaluated.
 
DracoDracul said:
Given that this is PMMM I'd bet 5 bucks that she witched out and became Gwen.
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Muramasa said:
We were considering giving her some space, correct? In that case my whole vote needs to be reevaluated.
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I think the current vote's objective should be something like: 'Get Ono to agree to having this talk', or 'get Ono to to calm down enough to listen to us'.

I guess the 'calm down' part would come first, unless it's unnecessary.
 
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Onmur said:
I think the current vote's objective should be something like: 'Get Ono to agree to having this talk', or 'get Ono to to calm down enough to listen to us'.

I guess the 'calm down' part would come first, unless it's unnecessary.
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I seriously doubt that she'll agree to that. And if we're blatantly giving her an ultimatum like that, then we should have just stuck to the earlier plan of waiting outside her window. If we're giving her space it might be better to do it the way Kinematics said. Tell her that we'll be waiting for her, make sure the ring stays on her, and keep timestop on.
 
Agent Whiskers said:
I seriously doubt that she'll agree to that. And if we're blatantly giving her an ultimatum like that, then we should have just stuck to the earlier plan of waiting outside her window. If we're giving her space it might be better to do it the way Kinematics said. Tell her that we'll be waiting for her, make sure the ring stays on her, and keep timestop on.
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But do we need a 'severe' opening statement?

[] "I can't do that, Megane. Your ignorance is killing you; we need to have this talk."
[] Step away. "I'm sorry. Take a moment, collect yourself, we'll be outside. We'll wait as long you need"
-[] Leave through the window.

Wouldn't she do better outside timestop? We could disconnect her from it, leave, then tell her we're waiting.
 
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I got a feeling that Ono's gonna postpone that meeting for as long as she could when we wait outside as revenge on us for making her wait among other things.
 
If we keep up the trend of only appearing in time-stop, she may begin to think that it's either some weird dimensional effect around us, furthering her (probable) belief that we're some weird kind of witch that torments Magical girls instead of normal people, or that we're just an illusion/voice in her head. This amuses me, because by now she's about at Sakura's level when considering how acceptable a target is to troll.
 
Onmur said:
But do we need a 'severe' opening statement?

[] "I can't do that, Megane. Your ignorance is killing you; we need to have this talk."
[] Step away. "I'm sorry. Take a moment, collect yourself, we'll be outside. We'll wait as long you need"
-[] Leave through the window.

Wouldn't she do better outside timestop? We could disconnect her from it, leave, then tell her we're waiting.
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I disagree. That's just opening us to more stonewalling and stalling in general.
 
Onmur said:
@Muramasa
We need less words. More meaning.

[] I'm sorry Megane, I can't do that. Your ignorance is killing you, so I'm not leaving until we've this talk.
[] If you want a moment to collect yourself, that's fine. If you'd like to do this outside, that's also fine. That's up to you.

I think this is about the maximum amount of words we have to convince her. The explanation part is fine, but the first part should be specially concise and severe.
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Since I'm not completely sold on leaving. Edited.
 
Muramasa said:
[x] I'm sorry Megane, I can't do that. Your ignorance is killing you, so I'm not leaving until we've had this talk.
[x] If you want a moment to collect yourself, that's fine. If you'd like to do this outside, that's also fine. That's up to you.
-[x] "You are burning through too much magic, too quickly. Your soul gem is darkening way too fast."
-[x] "You're killing yourself, Megane. That's what'll happen when your Soul Gem fills up completely, or when you go try to fight a Witch alone, while high on corruption. I told you, it effects your judgement in the worst way. It's an extremely dangerous position to be in."
-[x] "And I can't have that. I can't have you ignorant of the dangers of this world you've been brought into."
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Need to edit this bit, then. One of them.

Perhaps these can be joined?

-[] "You are burning through too much magic, too quickly. Your soul gem is darkening way too fast. We've told you it affects your judgement, in the worst way. If you try to fight a Witch alone, high on corruption, you'll just get killed. The other thing you need to know, if your Soul Gem fills up completely, you will die."

Can't find a way to phrase things right now. Sleepy.
 
Muramasa said:
Since I'm not completely sold on leaving. Edited.
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Hmm, I'm not either. But she might not listen either in her current state. Then there's also the option of waiting for her in to calm down in the room. What does everyone else think?

Either way, if we do decide to give her space, maybe something like this?

[] "Okay". Start preparing to leave.
-[] "But your ignorance about what I need to tell you will kill you. You had almost died the day that we met. I'm sorry, but we're having this talk, and this won't end *gesture around timestop* until we do. I'll be waiting outside for when you're ready."
[] Leave. Preferably through the window, but if not, the door. Make sure the ring stays on her finger to keep her in timestop.
-[] If leaving through the window, get down using grief platforms or staircase. Leave them up as an invitation.
[] Keep a close eye on her through your grief senses to make sure she stays in timestop using the ring, doesn't get too corrupted, and that she doesn't move out of range.
[] Wait. Offer cleanses.

I really feel bad for dragging Homura and Mami into this. It's going to be frustrating. It already is.
 
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Agent Whiskers said:
Hmm, I'm not either. But she might not listen either in her current state. Then there's also the option of waiting for her in to calm down in the room. What does everyone else think?

Either way, if we do decide to give her space, maybe something like this?

[] "Okay". Start preparing to leave.
-[] "But your ignorance about what I need to tell you will kill you. You had almost died the day that we met. I'm sorry, but we're having this talk, and this won't end *gesture around timestop* until we do. I'll be waiting outside for when you're ready."
[] Leave. Preferably through the window, but if not, the door. Make sure the ring stays on her finger to keep her in timestop.
-[] If leaving through the window, get down using grief platforms or staircase. Leave them up as an invitation.
[] Keep a close eye on her through your grief senses to make sure she stays in timestop using the ring, doesn't get too corrupted, and that she doesn't move out of range.
[] Wait

I really feel bad for dragging Homura and Mami into this. It's going to be frustrating. It already is.
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I would offer to cleanse Homura at this point, but this looks pretty good to me.
 
Muramasa said:
[x] I'm sorry Megane, I can't do that. Your ignorance is killing you, so I'm not leaving until we've had this talk.
[x] If you want a moment to collect yourself, that's fine. If you'd like to do this outside, that's also fine. That's up to you.
-[x] "You are burning through too much magic, too quickly. Your soul gem is darkening way too fast."
-[x] "High corruption effects you personally. It influences your emotions. It compromises your judgement in the worst way, and if you allow your gem to darken completely, you'll die.
-[x] "And I can't have that. I can't have you ignorant of the dangers of this world you've been brought into."

[x] If at anypoint Megane becomes violent or transforms, disconnect her from timestop.
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One more thing. Shouldn't we actually put in to give her a bit to get a hold of herself after we tell her that she can? Or does it imply to let it happen if she does need to?
 
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