I think we should't restrain her as long as she doesn't do anything we can't tank and ignore.
Mami forgive us.
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I'm reminded of Hoshiko. We immediately acquiesed to release her when asked, despite having been atacked by her group.
She hasn't yet lashed out with violence (despite the shock of our sudden appearance in her sanctum and the discomfort of time-stop), although...Actually restraining her sounds like a really bad idea. I'd almost prefer just letting her vent at us.
Physical violence might be imminent. If she just yells at us, that's one thing, but if she gets violent, then we ought to be prepared to restrain her (not preemptively, but as soon as she starts lashing out). I hope that won't be necessary, but I'd rather be prepared than to have her injure one of us. Muramasa's vote "If at any point Megane becomes violent or transforms, disconnect her from timestop." is one way to accomplish this. If it did come to that, we would need to either physically restrain her or leave, but the choice would be pushed to the next vote.Her hands clench into white knuckled fists, the muscles standing out.
True. But do think that the explanation about the importance of the seed and the giving of the seed should happen at the same time.Our talk isn't going to conclude this update. We can talk about this later.
I can take any-*torn to shreds by Ono* Yeah that would be a really stupid thing to try doing, let's not try the nearly 100% suicidal option.And the more I think about it the more I'm inclined to believe that any act of violence here us unacceptable behavior and face tanking is shounen level stupidity. I don't recommend face tanking anything.
We didn't leave our Gem with Mami, else I'd be certain Ono won't manage to hurt us in a meaningful way by lashing out, since she likely doesn't know what a meguca can take without trouble.
Unconnecting her is safer, though.
[x] Be gentle and comforting
[x] "We can have this meeting elsewhere if you like. I will understand. But we're not leaving you alone while you are in danger."
[x] "You are using up your magic too quickly. If we don't teach you to manage it properly, your gem will fill and you will die. I don't want you to die."
[x] "We can teach you what you need to know here or elsewhere, but we are teammates and when any of us are in danger, we don't abandon them."
With a wish like that, the only way to save her is to break her, as horrible as it sounds. Otherwise, she'd just keep going until she's either killed or Witches out. There's no alternative.I just hope this doesn't turn into another Akiko incident, where she can't deal with what's happening, because it goes against her wish.
If Megane's wish was something like "I want to always be in control" or I wish I was in control of my life", then what we're currently doing can't be healthy for her.
But there's not much we can do about that right now, so let's calmly press on and hope for the best.
Well, I think that if we speak for too long, we'll get interrupted. I want to wait until she's accepted that we're having the meeting before including everything else we need to say. As for violence.I feel this maybe a bit too passive and the intent behind this approach will get lost or misunderstood. I also think we should be explaining all of our justification for being here. The gem corruption is just the biggest concern.
Also this vote doesn't address the possibility of Megane becoming violent.
More like it would require perfection, or close. Always being in control of yourself means, when you're a teenager, means you're always being controlled by a teenager. Teenagers kind of need to listen to adults, at times.Always being in control of oneself would be fine and all, except that it requires said person to always be rational.
My big quarrel with the votes so far is they're ignoring the big bridge between where we're at in the conversation, and where we wanna be.
Right now, Ono is in angry reaction mode. She's going to shout down our initial soft words, probably any words.
We need to plan around this. I like the soft approach, but we need to wait before we bring it out.
I'm sure you're going to have a wonderful time explaining getting ourselves stabbed or worse to Mami.Well, I think that if we speak for too long, we'll get interrupted. I want to wait until she's accepted that we're having the meeting before including everything else we need to say. As for violence.
[x] Be gentle and comforting
[x] "We can have this meeting elsewhere if you like. I will understand. But we're not leaving you alone while you are in danger."
[x] "You are using up your magic too quickly. If we don't teach you to manage it properly, your gem will fill and you will die. I don't want you to die."
[x] "We can teach you what you need to know here or elsewhere, but we are teammates and when any of us are in danger, we don't abandon them."
[x] If Megane becomes violent, use grief to pass my soul gem to Mami and tell Mami and Homura to let her be. Tank anything she dishes out. If she needs to learn the lichbomb this way, so be it.
Could we offer to take this talk outside?[x] "If you want a moment to collect yourself, that's fine. But we can't leave until we've had this talk. It's too important."
How?Also; do recall that we can try to cut off her magic, either to stop her trying to chib us or to take a peep under the glamour. It'd be strictly a short-term solution, since we'd probably paralyze her in the process, but in this context, that might not be entirely a bad thing.
About a millionty pages back, when we were messing around with our magic-o-vision, we tried cutting off magic to our hand? Uh, 'twisting' the glowy stuff connecting it to the soul gem? No lasting ill effects. If I remember correctly, it just stopped working and felt tingly.
I imagine we can do that with our magic in our body.About a millionty pages back, when we were messing around with our magic-o-vision, we tried cutting off magic to our hand? Uh, 'twisting' the glowy stuff connecting it to the soul gem? No lasting ill effects. If I remember correctly, it just stopped working and felt tingly.
I'm sure you're going to have a wonderful time explaining getting ourselves stabbed or worse to Mami.
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This is thoroughly unwise.
Could we offer to take this talk outside?
[] "If you want a moment to collect yourself, that's fine. If you want to do this outside, it's fine. But we can't leave until we've had this talk. It's too important."