Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
No, no. Madoka is the team mom. She just... Doesn't know it yet.
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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- He/Him
Someone on SV who actually understands social-fu?
Sabrina needs more people like you. Badly.
Sadly, Sabrina and Kyouko are not bonding over their shared tendency for Kyouplomacy. It would been so hilarious to see...
Interloper pt. 5
You bite into the drumstick, replying telepathically to Yuma. "Mami was a good friend of your big sis, but they parted on bad terms. I think she's angry at Kyuubey."
"Oh," Yuma says, a trace of relief colouring her voice. "Um... Thank you." The green haired girl sneaks you a quick smile between bites of a boiled egg.
"You're welcome." You chew thoughtfully on your mouthful of chicken -a bit dry, but what else would you expect at a cheap buffet?-, and glance at Kyouko, who's still working on setting a world record, demolishing the contents of her plate with reckless speed, barely pausing to chew before she swallows.
"How's the food?" you ask idly, wiping your greasy fingers on a napkin and picking up your fork.
Kyouko frowns at you, brows contracting over tired, crimson eyes, her hands moving busily to load up her fork.
"It's good!" Yuma says brightly. Bits of chewed egg spray out, and Kyouko sighs, putting down her own fork before reaching across with a napkin.
"Don't talk with your mouth full," Kyouko chides, gently wiping the younger girl's mouth.
Yuma swallows, blue eyes huge. "Sorry, big sis."
"I'm not mad," Kyouko says, putting the napkin down to ruffle Yuma's hair. She glares challengingly at you, eyes daring you to comment.
You raise an eyebrow at her, holding her gaze as you fork up some salad.
She snorts. "'sabout the same as last time," she allows grudgingly. "Not bad."
It takes you a moment to realize she's referring to the food, and you nod graciously. "I don't think the mushroom soup was here last week," you suggest. Privately, you can't help but think that she's a little like a puppy. A deadly, easily provoked, tsundere puppy.
Kyouko shrugs with a single shoulder, mouth full again.
"Yuma thinks it was there last week," the younger girl says, punctiliously swallowing before speaking.
Kyouko swallows. "What she said," she says, pushing her emptied plate forward and leaving for a third helping. Yuma smiles at you, pushing her emptied plate forward too, and following her adopted older sister to the buffet line.
You look down at your own, barely half empty plate, and raise an eyebrow at Kyouko and Yuma, already piling new plates high with food. You turn your attention back to your plate, eating slowly, while watching the two of them move about through your Grief senses. No spare Grief Seeds. And for yourself... you have Hildegard, Aurora, and...
Jane.
...
Seriously?
Jane?
"Sabrina?" Mami again, as Kyouko and Yuma return to the table.
"Hey, Mami!" you say, injecting cheer into your mental voice. "How are you?"
"We're doing integration practice now," Mami tells you. "Um..."
"Yes, Mami?" you ask.
"Umm... Do you know how to integrate sin x to the power of five? Mami asks.
You blink, frowning and trying to work it out in your head. Well. "Hm... Uh, the integrand should be sin x... you'll get, uh, integration of sin cubed x I think, and then you'll have to integrate that one more time. Same way."
"Ohh... two integrations, I see," Mami says. "Thank you, Sabrina!"
"Sabrina? Are you OK?" Yuma asks, peering up at you. Both her and Kyouko have returned with fully laden plates, and Yuma has, yes, a bowl of mushroom soup.
"Hm? Yeah. Just thinking," you say, returning to your meal. To Mami, you reply, "No problem, Mami!"
"Umm..." Mami says. "D-do you know if... Sorry."
"I should be able to make it, Mami," you say, forking up some salad.
"Oh!" Mami brightens. "See you soon!"
"See you," you reply.
Kyouko and Yuma have returned to guzzling down their meals. You cast about for another topic to try and spark up conversation, racking your brains for something relatively neutral and safe - but really, all you can think of is trying to get Yuma and Nagisa into the same room for maximum diabeetes. And also Kyouko as a puppy.
"So, uh, Yuma?" you ask.
The green haired girl looks up at you, slurping a strand of noodle into her mouth.
"Uhh, I'm just curious, what's your opinion on cheese?" you ask.
Yuma blinks her enormous blue eyes at you in confusion, while Kyouko gives you a flat, unamused glare. "It's... OK?" Yuma says, sounding confused.
"Ah," you say, nodding sagely. "Good to know."
Kyouko continues to stare at you, eyes attempting to bore holes in your skull while you return to eating, forking up some more salad. It's actually not half bad.
"And by the way, Kyouko," you say telepathically to her, and not acknowledging her glare at you. "How are you holding up? Hunting, looking after Yuma?"
"I'm fine," she bites out the words, along with a particularly vicious chomp that bends the cheap metal of her spoon.
[] Probe further
- [] How?
[] Proceed
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Short update, but I felt I should break here.
For future reference - when I say points, not wording, I don't mean to trim it down to 'Ask Kyouko if she's alright by telepathy' if you have something specific to ask. If you want Sabrina to specifically ask or say something, then by all means, specify it.
Holding in abeyance:
"Oh," Yuma says, a trace of relief colouring her voice. "Um... Thank you." The green haired girl sneaks you a quick smile between bites of a boiled egg.
"You're welcome." You chew thoughtfully on your mouthful of chicken -a bit dry, but what else would you expect at a cheap buffet?-, and glance at Kyouko, who's still working on setting a world record, demolishing the contents of her plate with reckless speed, barely pausing to chew before she swallows.
"How's the food?" you ask idly, wiping your greasy fingers on a napkin and picking up your fork.
Kyouko frowns at you, brows contracting over tired, crimson eyes, her hands moving busily to load up her fork.
"It's good!" Yuma says brightly. Bits of chewed egg spray out, and Kyouko sighs, putting down her own fork before reaching across with a napkin.
"Don't talk with your mouth full," Kyouko chides, gently wiping the younger girl's mouth.
Yuma swallows, blue eyes huge. "Sorry, big sis."
"I'm not mad," Kyouko says, putting the napkin down to ruffle Yuma's hair. She glares challengingly at you, eyes daring you to comment.
You raise an eyebrow at her, holding her gaze as you fork up some salad.
She snorts. "'sabout the same as last time," she allows grudgingly. "Not bad."
It takes you a moment to realize she's referring to the food, and you nod graciously. "I don't think the mushroom soup was here last week," you suggest. Privately, you can't help but think that she's a little like a puppy. A deadly, easily provoked, tsundere puppy.
Kyouko shrugs with a single shoulder, mouth full again.
"Yuma thinks it was there last week," the younger girl says, punctiliously swallowing before speaking.
Kyouko swallows. "What she said," she says, pushing her emptied plate forward and leaving for a third helping. Yuma smiles at you, pushing her emptied plate forward too, and following her adopted older sister to the buffet line.
You look down at your own, barely half empty plate, and raise an eyebrow at Kyouko and Yuma, already piling new plates high with food. You turn your attention back to your plate, eating slowly, while watching the two of them move about through your Grief senses. No spare Grief Seeds. And for yourself... you have Hildegard, Aurora, and...
Jane.
...
Seriously?
Jane?
"Sabrina?" Mami again, as Kyouko and Yuma return to the table.
"Hey, Mami!" you say, injecting cheer into your mental voice. "How are you?"
"We're doing integration practice now," Mami tells you. "Um..."
"Yes, Mami?" you ask.
"Umm... Do you know how to integrate sin x to the power of five? Mami asks.
You blink, frowning and trying to work it out in your head. Well. "Hm... Uh, the integrand should be sin x... you'll get, uh, integration of sin cubed x I think, and then you'll have to integrate that one more time. Same way."
"Ohh... two integrations, I see," Mami says. "Thank you, Sabrina!"
"Sabrina? Are you OK?" Yuma asks, peering up at you. Both her and Kyouko have returned with fully laden plates, and Yuma has, yes, a bowl of mushroom soup.
"Hm? Yeah. Just thinking," you say, returning to your meal. To Mami, you reply, "No problem, Mami!"
"Umm..." Mami says. "D-do you know if... Sorry."
"I should be able to make it, Mami," you say, forking up some salad.
"Oh!" Mami brightens. "See you soon!"
"See you," you reply.
Kyouko and Yuma have returned to guzzling down their meals. You cast about for another topic to try and spark up conversation, racking your brains for something relatively neutral and safe - but really, all you can think of is trying to get Yuma and Nagisa into the same room for maximum diabeetes. And also Kyouko as a puppy.
"So, uh, Yuma?" you ask.
The green haired girl looks up at you, slurping a strand of noodle into her mouth.
"Uhh, I'm just curious, what's your opinion on cheese?" you ask.
Yuma blinks her enormous blue eyes at you in confusion, while Kyouko gives you a flat, unamused glare. "It's... OK?" Yuma says, sounding confused.
"Ah," you say, nodding sagely. "Good to know."
Kyouko continues to stare at you, eyes attempting to bore holes in your skull while you return to eating, forking up some more salad. It's actually not half bad.
"And by the way, Kyouko," you say telepathically to her, and not acknowledging her glare at you. "How are you holding up? Hunting, looking after Yuma?"
"I'm fine," she bites out the words, along with a particularly vicious chomp that bends the cheap metal of her spoon.
[] Probe further
- [] How?
[] Proceed
[] Write-in
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Short update, but I felt I should break here.
For future reference - when I say points, not wording, I don't mean to trim it down to 'Ask Kyouko if she's alright by telepathy' if you have something specific to ask. If you want Sabrina to specifically ask or say something, then by all means, specify it.
Holding in abeyance:
[x]Mention that Sendai's been resolved.
[x]Offer a regular grief seed. Ask to cleanse again too if it seems like she needs it.
-[x] If she presses us for a reason, restate what we said during our first meeting about just wanting to help megucas.
[x]Telepathy Yuma. Try and make sure your big sis cleanses her own gem too, okay?
[x]Offer a regular grief seed. Ask to cleanse again too if it seems like she needs it.
-[x] If she presses us for a reason, restate what we said during our first meeting about just wanting to help megucas.
[x]Telepathy Yuma. Try and make sure your big sis cleanses her own gem too, okay?
I'm curious about what the purpose of the cheese line was.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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- He/Him
She takes time to grow into the role. For now, she's too insecure and lacking in self-confidence to really involve herself in someone else's personal matters (unless it's someone like Sayaka or Hitomi--childhood friends). Her reaction to the lichbomb, though, clearly showed her potential and tendency for this role.
As an aside, I'm rather tempted to actually tell Homura how she and Madoka are probably Sabrina's 'parents', since the two of them directly made the wish that made, well, Sabrina. The idea is that, for Homura, it actually gives some meaning and value to her looping hell beyond just endless attempts at a Good End--her looping directly created a good friend that wouldn't have even existed otherwise. Still totally undecided on whether or not such a conversation would be best left for after WPN or not, though.
Krecart
Not for throwing.
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- They/Them
Should've asked about meguca pants. Makes way more sense than cheese.
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It'd be something she'd have in common with Nagisa?
pretty much exactly what I expected from that vote line.
We're the team Morning Person.
Jackercracks
In a British accent
- Location
- England
I assumed it was a reference to something that I didn't remember.
Gadjo
Doka
[] "Kyoko, I live literally 5 minutes away. There's no reason you can't fill seeds and then just call me over. I'll pretty much always be able to show up within a few hours, and if I can't you can just throw it to Kyubey. There's no reason to give those to Kyubey when they can still be used. it's a waste of resources."
This might be a good line to open with. Either way, I want to bring up that there's no reason we can't be on call to cleanse seeds for her.
This might be a good line to open with. Either way, I want to bring up that there's no reason we can't be on call to cleanse seeds for her.
Whelp, most of what's left is still valid. I suppose we could clarify our question to Kyoko so we get more than "it's fine", and add a few things that we also wanted to cover this conversation. Maybe take this chance to change when Sendai news is introduced and make then lead in into it clearer.
But over all, there really isn't much to do other than the rest of the vote.
But over all, there really isn't much to do other than the rest of the vote.
She's pissed off right now. Ask her about that. It would actually be productive if she snapped at us. We can take whatever she chooses to explode about.
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
- Location
- Soviet Lunar Base
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the madowish theory makes a fine headcanon, but it isn't a serious theory and should be treated like one until we get definitive proof, and that includes telling it to other people.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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- He/Him
Yeah, directly asking Kyouko if she's okay is just going to get a standard "I'm fine" response. She's that type of person. If you want to actually know how she's holding up, you need to be a lot more subtle and indirect. Things like noticing the lack of spare grief seeds, the state of Kyouko's own gem when we met her today, the fact that Kyouko is clearly quite hungry even by her standards, or the fact that she seems more tired than usual tell us much more than she herself would.
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My only objection to giving Kyouko a cleansed Seed is that we don't quite understand (yet) how it relates to a Soul Gem. In other words, once a Seed is cleansed, it interacts with other Seeds as if it were a Soul Gem, but it interacts with other Soul Gems as if it were a Seed. This could mean that it's in some kind of intermediate state between the two, in which case it might seem rather cruel to continue dumping grief into them. Alas, we need to SCIENCE more before we can roll out cleansed Seeds beyond personal experimentation, particularly with regards to whether or not it's possible to convert a Seed back into a Gem.
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My only objection to giving Kyouko a cleansed Seed is that we don't quite understand (yet) how it relates to a Soul Gem. In other words, once a Seed is cleansed, it interacts with other Seeds as if it were a Soul Gem, but it interacts with other Soul Gems as if it were a Seed. This could mean that it's in some kind of intermediate state between the two, in which case it might seem rather cruel to continue dumping grief into them. Alas, we need to SCIENCE more before we can roll out cleansed Seeds beyond personal experimentation, particularly with regards to whether or not it's possible to convert a Seed back into a Gem.
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Jackercracks
In a British accent
- Location
- England
Alright, we're being way too polite, dancing round everything and it's pissing off Kyouko. Hell, it would piss me off if someone was treating me like a fragile porcelain vase. Kyouko's tougher than Mami, we don't need to treat them the same. I propose: Sabrina Limit Break.
[ ] Bullshit. You're hunting for two, one of who has a non-combat power. I can tell you haven't got any seeds and I refuse to see either of you die for no bloody reason. I want to help her just as much as your do so I'll give you unlimited grief seed cleanses if you teach me how to fight with this hammer I never fucking use. I plan on getting in a lot of fights soon.
[ ] Bullshit. You're hunting for two, one of who has a non-combat power. I can tell you haven't got any seeds and I refuse to see either of you die for no bloody reason. I want to help her just as much as your do so I'll give you unlimited grief seed cleanses if you teach me how to fight with this hammer I never fucking use. I plan on getting in a lot of fights soon.
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Gadjo
Doka
Maybe not the best way to phrase it, but I like the general idea: we should call Kyoko out on her bullshitting (we really don't need to frame it as a service exchange).
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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- She/Her
Yeah, we should either call her on her bullshit or allow her the fiction of a service exchange. Trying to do both is awkward.
Regarding the cheese line, we could just say we were asking because we know a girl her age who likes cheese, and it sounded like less of a stupid question in my head.
Anyway, why don't we offer to buy training sessions from her? Start at 1 cleanse a session, plus whatever the training cost. Then we can just agree to whatever Kyoko haggles to. Everyone gets what they want, and Kyoko doesn't feel like a charity case, because we're a client, not just some nosy bitch.
Yelling and trying to guilt trip her is just going to get us decked in the schnoz.
Anyway, why don't we offer to buy training sessions from her? Start at 1 cleanse a session, plus whatever the training cost. Then we can just agree to whatever Kyoko haggles to. Everyone gets what they want, and Kyoko doesn't feel like a charity case, because we're a client, not just some nosy bitch.
Yelling and trying to guilt trip her is just going to get us decked in the schnoz.
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That's already Homura's working assumption. But it wouldn't hurt to bring it up in actual conversation, perhaps when we discuss clear grief seeds with her and ask for her help to research dewitching them.
In terms of the vote, if we want to give Kyouko a seed, we're going to have to press her pretty hard first so that she admits that she needs it (I would prefer to offer Aurora or Hildegard, but the consensus of the last vote means that it pretty much has to be Jane).
[] Probe further
-[] Point out that Kyouko's gem was dark and they don't have any grief seeds.
-[] Ask if there is a shortage of witches or if there's a different problem.
-[] Offer to loan Jane to them as a temporary measure.
--[] Press the issue and recruit Yuma to help convince Kyouko if it seems like she might reject the offer.
--[] We can come by and cleanse it at any time, but they are not to give it to Kyuubey.
[] Describe the Sendai solution, mention the meguca involved, the reason for the conflict, and the way it was resolved.
[] Ask if there are any other meguca in Kasamino.
[] Telepathy Yuma. Try and make sure your big sis cleanses her own gem too, okay?
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
- Location
- Soviet Lunar Base
...Can you explain to me why exactly are you chewing her out and trying to guilt trip her?
Actually, what exactly is everyone trying to achieve with this vote? Can't we just move on and offer her the seed?