Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
If nothing else, "But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave" is an improvement, right?
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
- Thread starter Firnagzen
- Start date
-
- Tags
- puella magi adfligo systema puella magi madoka magica be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist bad decisions dating mami tomoe (tomoe mami) diabolical laughter friendship is the best ship handholding identity crises microwaving tea gets you put in the bad place names are important the body is the fursona of the soul this is not the baked goods thread we don't talk about rionna what could possibly go wrong? who in the world is azure sanfrancisco?
[x]Some of it's pretty bad, Mami. I won't lie. Some of it is just...strange. Things I can't really explain, or that don't make sense to me right now.
[x]But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x]Ask about her.
[x] I know this is a lot to hear right now, Mami. Do you want to hear some of it tonight, or do you want to just relax? I'm okay with either.
-[x]Just talk about light-hearted things. Whatever Mami wants to bring up.
-[x]If she seems to be doing okay and wants to know...
[x]About the weird stuff...I know a lot more things than I should, and not just the stuff that I need to tell you, but also more mundane things like languages, math, science, strategy, medicine, the magic system, and so much more, are all stuffed inside my head. That's what I meant by things that don't make sense.
[x] This and other things made me come to the conclusion that I'm only 8 days old. Pretty sure, anyway. No, I don't think I have amnesia, anymore. I literally don't have a past prior to last Sunday. I don't know where I'm from or how I got here, but I think that before then...I didn't exist.
Added, and we already mentioned that some things aren't ours to talk about if I remember correctly. And things are going blurry that's my cue to crash.
[x]But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x]Ask about her.
[x] I know this is a lot to hear right now, Mami. Do you want to hear some of it tonight, or do you want to just relax? I'm okay with either.
-[x]Just talk about light-hearted things. Whatever Mami wants to bring up.
-[x]If she seems to be doing okay and wants to know...
[x]About the weird stuff...I know a lot more things than I should, and not just the stuff that I need to tell you, but also more mundane things like languages, math, science, strategy, medicine, the magic system, and so much more, are all stuffed inside my head. That's what I meant by things that don't make sense.
[x] This and other things made me come to the conclusion that I'm only 8 days old. Pretty sure, anyway. No, I don't think I have amnesia, anymore. I literally don't have a past prior to last Sunday. I don't know where I'm from or how I got here, but I think that before then...I didn't exist.
Added, and we already mentioned that some things aren't ours to talk about if I remember correctly. And things are going blurry that's my cue to crash.
Last edited:
Um... are you sure you understood the part of the post that wasn't vote suggestions? Because the first few lines are not the only part I find objectionable.
Words mean things. Different words mean different things. Points, not phrasing is definitely welcome when making arguments, assertions, or giving information. But when you are trying to give just enough information about secrets to let someone react to them, without giving clues as to what those secrets actually are, my thought is every word matters quite a lot. I don't mean to nitpick either, but if you can't see the difference between "Some of it is just...strange." and "Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying.", and more importantly, WHY that difference exists, then you've missed the entire point completely.
Not really? The point is the whole vote (and not just the parts I suggested) should be built around giving context to each item that Mami is able to deal with, or if we do reveal anything, giving it the appropriate leads that she contextualizes it in a positive or neutral way rather than a negative one.
Like, I would rather simply blurt out the origins thing and the strange knowledge thing than directly associate it with secrets we want to reveal (and I'm not suggesting that blurting is a good idea either). Obviously the association will be made after the fact, but this is completely about presentation.
Ok, now I really do need to get to bed.
[X] Ugolino
Revoting so the script picks up Ugo's changes in my vote.
That's why I didn't fill in Xs yet. I wasn't happy with how I did the "hack job" of the two votes either.
Revoting so the script picks up Ugo's changes in my vote.
That's why I didn't fill in Xs yet. I wasn't happy with how I did the "hack job" of the two votes either.
- Location
- ⇙
I actually like SWB's reasoning and proposed wording, especially separating the information about Sabrina from the more harmful things. It cleary separates the things we know and eventually want to tell her into different categories and at the same time gives an explanation for why we haven't told them to her yet. This way part of the things we want to tell her seem a bit more positive to Mami and she has a clearer view, what's safe to ask about. I find it likely that she will ask us about our self knowldge herself, once she calmed down, maybe after a good night sleep, if we dress it up as just weird and not devastating. She will want to know more about Sabirna after all.
So proposed option without revealing anything as the update will most likely end, if we have to make such a choice.
Most of the wording taken from SWB with a few minor tweaks or additions.
[] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
Makes clear that it is not something about ourselves that is horrible and dark and should help make her worry less. And also shows it's okay to ask us about this stuff.
[] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
Makes clear that there are things we won't talk about, until we get permission from others or find a better way to explain it, but will tell her eventually.
[] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
Changed world to system which makes it no less true, but is something Mami is already familiar with and makes it sound less apocalyptic. She said she won't ask about this part so it should be fine.
[] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
Don't think this line has to explained.
[] Wait for her reaction
-[] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
This part is more or less there to give Mami more agency in deciding what she wants to do. I want her to choose the next step without any input from us. If she wants to her the stuff about Sabrina fine, if she doesn't also fine.
I admit I'm not the best at this stuff, but this version puts more emphasis on seriously considering Mami's question and adressing her fears. If we tell her that none of the secrets that pertain to oursleves are particulary dark (aside from " we were wished in existence to break a sytem that makes girls into monsters") and should put quite a few of the fears we just incited
to rest.
It also gives us more agency to adress a potntial reveal of our knowledge and sudden pop into existence, because we can gauge Mami's reaction to everything we tell her, before we decide how exactly we wnat to proceed. I know it's slowing down things,but sometimes that can be necessary.
Edit: updated vote.
[x] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
[x] Past that though... some are other people's secrets that I can't tell without their permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. There are some horrible things that I'm trying to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
So proposed option without revealing anything as the update will most likely end, if we have to make such a choice.
Most of the wording taken from SWB with a few minor tweaks or additions.
[] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
Makes clear that it is not something about ourselves that is horrible and dark and should help make her worry less. And also shows it's okay to ask us about this stuff.
[] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
Makes clear that there are things we won't talk about, until we get permission from others or find a better way to explain it, but will tell her eventually.
[] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
Changed world to system which makes it no less true, but is something Mami is already familiar with and makes it sound less apocalyptic. She said she won't ask about this part so it should be fine.
[] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
Don't think this line has to explained.
[] Wait for her reaction
-[] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
This part is more or less there to give Mami more agency in deciding what she wants to do. I want her to choose the next step without any input from us. If she wants to her the stuff about Sabrina fine, if she doesn't also fine.
I admit I'm not the best at this stuff, but this version puts more emphasis on seriously considering Mami's question and adressing her fears. If we tell her that none of the secrets that pertain to oursleves are particulary dark (aside from " we were wished in existence to break a sytem that makes girls into monsters") and should put quite a few of the fears we just incited
to rest.
It also gives us more agency to adress a potntial reveal of our knowledge and sudden pop into existence, because we can gauge Mami's reaction to everything we tell her, before we decide how exactly we wnat to proceed. I know it's slowing down things,but sometimes that can be necessary.
Edit: updated vote.
[x] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
[x] Past that though... some are other people's secrets that I can't tell without their permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. There are some horrible things that I'm trying to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
Last edited:
PhDEevee
Mathematician and Questgiver
- Location
- Sydney
[x] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
I like this. It's broken down into manageable chunks for Mami to deal with. And doesn't underestimate the severity of the worst parts.
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
I like this. It's broken down into manageable chunks for Mami to deal with. And doesn't underestimate the severity of the worst parts.
- Location
- Germany
OH, much better
[x] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
[x] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
Mister Bad Guy
Mr Mercury to friends
- Location
- Bay Area
AnonymousRabbit
Rabbit Faced
Sups has hammerspace in his cape?!
You're surprised by this?
AnonymousRabbit
Rabbit Faced
Mister Bad Guy
Mr Mercury to friends
- Location
- Bay Area
It's... uh... an application of Phantom Zone technology?
- Location
- South Africa
You've convinced me.
[x] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
[x] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
Krecart
Not for throwing.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[x] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[x] Some of it is just things about myself that I want to share with you. Stupid of me to call them secrets at all. Just... weird things about me I hadn't gotten around to saying or don't fullly understand myself yet.
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
[x] Past that though... there are some tragic stories about other people that I can't tell without permission. A few things I feel guilty about. Some things I know that aren't easy to explain.
[x] The worst of it, though, it's bad. I won't lie. It's something horrible about the system that I hope to change.
[x] But there is nothing that changes how highly I think of you, or that would make me leave.
[x] Wait for her reaction
-[x] If she changes the topic or wants time to think, before asking further questions go along with it and talk about more light hearted things
-[x] If she asks about something you just told her, do that next update
- Location
- Germany
Or somesuch . God , SUCH power creep ,DC?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I thought he pulled the gift out of his ass. Just like all his superpowers?
- Location
- ⇙
Current vote tally: