Guys.

Maybe figure out if they're even still alive before planning the expedition.

Seriously, though, unless you can get either version of Kanna, it'll be a waste anyway. And one of them's crazy and the other dies first.
 
@Mister Bad Guy:

Sabrina: "Heeey. "
Asunaro girl: "Hey?" 'Another meguca to the freezer. Better call the others.'
Sabrina: "Is Kanna around? Either one?"
Asunaro girl: "Wait, either one? Nevermind, never heard of her."
Sabrina: "Oh, ok. Tell Kazumi witch girl sends her regards. Byeee!"

Shit, wait, that's Kirika.

@Gadjo: I'm asking what your idea is on how to witchbomb Mami, in contents. Numerous people have wanted to figure out stuff with Hildegirl, for example, before that so we can say that Meguca are dead or not dead when doing it.
 
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We should eventually go. Seeing how Firn handles Asunaro is too good to be missed. If the memory-barrier is up, bringing anyone other than ourselfs might be asking for trouble.
 
Let's not have the witchbomb discussion right now. I just meant an expedition into Asunaro should involve the whole team knowing exactly what they're getting into. The whole "we'd have to witchbomb Mami first" bit was really just saying "we have other, more important shit to get done before we can go there".
 
Let's not have the witchbomb discussion right now. I just meant an expedition into Asunaro should involve the whole team knowing exactly what they're getting into. The whole "we'd have to witchbomb Mami first" bit was really just saying "we have other, more important shit to get done before we can go there".
Ic. I do not consider them such a threat and want to do the trip so we can witchbomb Mami honestly. Needing Mami for that trip would be a catch-22 in that case.
 
Do elaborate, please, because I have no idea what you're saying.
See above.

Thought my thoughts were more about how we can't be honest about witching out if we're not sure and want to present our knowledge whether it is final or not as definite.

So that we don't present false hope but can truly say "when a girl witches out, they die" or "when a girl witches out, I can save them", not "Well, I might be able to save them in the future."
 

In all seriousness, we literally just dealt with something more dangerous than canon!Kazumi.

@'Lement

It's not the mind reader that is the problem. It's the bloody amnesia barrier that one girl erected around the city. I mean Sabrina's head is already screwed up, no need to make it worse.

I think we might be immune to the amnesia barrier. We are Out of Character, so it hardly matters.

...Did you miss how they have an insane power copier on their side? Along with the general insanity and piss poor quality of the work making everyone else look insane?

Are you talking about Hijiri Kanna? Because she's not working with the Pleiades, and her power copying is fairly conditional. She pretty much wished to connect to the Pleiades specifically, IIRC.

Worst case scenario, we drop "We're an artificial human, too!" And pass Homura's wish theory as canon fact. Hijiri is canonically demonstrated to basically lesbian-yandere crush on other artificial megucas due to her insecurities, and at the very least that would let us put her down.

Use the bad writing of Kazumi Magica to your advantage, if you insist upon it's existence. Otherwise have faith in Firn.
 
Yeah, if we want to go to Asunaro and solve their problem, Witchbombing Mami is a must. Or turn her to less-limpet then leave her for a day or three.
 
Sabrina and Homura coordinate to take care of Asurano before Mami even knows they're gone, so as to avoid the Witchbomb.

"So what did you do today, Sabrina?"
"Oh, nothing. Practiced my magic. Helped trade around people's stock Soul Gem pile-I mean Grief Seeds, shit!"
"Wait, what? You mean..." Tetris.
"Goddaaaammit."
 
Ok, I'm reading this manga now.

Aahahahah what the fuck "We designed this app to pick up witches' residual power". A witch-detecting cell phone, really?

Ayase's gem collection reminds me of a certain someone.

Ok, two souls is definitely interesting.

Grief control seems to solve this soul gem freezer & related motives completely. My guess is we'll hit at a point in the timeline where it won't be that easy though.

Hm, not sure if Mami would remember Kazumi, but I guess there's a connection there.

Oh, yeah, that memory modification is pretty broken. But it seems to require physical contact, so it's counterable.

That mind control, on the other hand, is all kinds of fucked, and I want nothing to do with it.

Uhhhhh, stuffing the corpse with the flesh of witches is, uhhhhhhhhhh, something Sabrina should be able to do, easily. Yuck.

The number of plot TWIIESSSTS is just stupid. Also that connection power would be very useful to have if we want to Science!. We'd need to find a mind controller to stamp out the crazy though, because I don't think Sabrinamancy will therapy that.

The power cloner seems to be sane? Very relatively speaking?

Interesting to read about a group that targets gems as much as we do. Fighting them without every advantage we can glean would definitely be playing with fire.

Hm, so the memory field would make us forget about the Kyubey, what grief seeds do, and possibly a bunch of other things. But grief control should an OCP to it. That said, this is definitely a stupid part that Firn might fix.

God damn that is one smug incubator.

"This is well thought out" oh my god I'm dyin ghere

Ok, so they didn't manage to resurrect their friend, but they did manage to create a soul from nothing, more or less.

Aaaaand done.


That... wasn't quite as crazy as I was led to believe. Yeah, still bad fanfiction level, especially with all the new abilities that they do with magic which they kind of just make up on the spot. But hey, at least now I know.

And yeah, if we do go there, and the plot there resembles the 'canon' plot in any way, then we'll have to end up there at a point where grief control doesn't magically solve everything.
 
In all seriousness, we literally just dealt with something more dangerous than canon!Kazumi.
What? Are you kidding me? This scenario is a cakewalk compared to the clusterfuck that is Asunaro.
Are you talking about Hijiri Kanna? Because she's not working with the Pleiades, and her power copying is fairly conditional. She pretty much wished to connect to the Pleiades specifically, IIRC.
Also, no, her wish was to specifically manipulate connections. There's nothing that indicates that the connections that she is limited to manipulating are the Pleiades, and she has one of the few powersets that we can't defeat outright. Worse still, her powerset also counters that of our trumpcards. I know we have a habit off assuming that we are invincible when we go all out, and that is mostly true for most megucas, but this does not apply to Kanna. If we aren't careful with how we approach this she will wreck our faces and eat us for breakfast.
 
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To be honest there is so much stuff involved that doesn't make sense and powers that just kind of happen for reasons, that an Asunaro that is written by Firn might be very different from the one we see in the manga.
(It might actually make sense and have reasonable explanations for the stuff that is happening.)
Anyway, we should put it on the list of stuff to worry about later and if we decide to go at some point try to gather as much information about it as we can.
 
"We've Got Hostiles" pt. 45
You press your lips together, frowning slightly. "I'm sorry," you say. "I... I have a... somewhat different perspective of Grief and Grief Seeds than most, thanks to my powers." You can feel Noa's sharp gaze, the girl from Tokyo observing you thoughtfully.

Sakura snorts loudly, and you can see her lips twitch. You can already hear the 'Fuck you' before Tamiko nudges her sharply in the ribs. The teleporter grunts and subsides in annoyance.

"So, yes," you say. "My apologies for that. Just go ahead and correct me if I make mistakes again, OK?"

Nods all around.

"Sorry, Sabrina," Mami says, voice still apologetic.

You squeeze her hand. "Don't be, Mami. Thank you for telling me."

"Anyway, moving on," you say, flapping your hand in the air. "OK, so if full Seeds are problematic, then how about half filling them?" You spread your hands. "Half fill them, then keep it and use a new one. Does that work?"

Chouko frowns, considering. "We don't have enough Seeds to make it like that."

"Which, yes, is part of my concern," you nod. "How many Seeds do you need a week, roughly? What kind of intervals would be best for me to drop by?"

Chouko exchanges a look with Yuko, and the Suzuki sisters. The Sendai girls seem to consider this, too, likely communicating via telepathy. Rin folds her arms in front of her, her usually soft face set hard as she frowns at Yumi.

Mami squeezes your hand lightly. "Sabrina..." she says, voice soft. "I think you're overwhelming them."

"I want this to work, Mami," you reply. "I want to help them."

Mami smiles softly at you. "I know. Just... try not to push them too hard? I'm sure you know what you're doing, though."

"I hope so too," you say drily.

"We use... about two Grief Seeds every week," Yumi says, clearly fighting to keep her face blank. Haru blinks, and then glares at that little reminder, followed by her sister and Yuko. The gravity controller flinches minutely before continuing. "That... doesn't include hunting, or Rin's healing circuits. Or Akiko's trips."

"More than that," Chouko says. "Maybe four or five. We have to hunt more." She says it flatly, gaze fixed on Yumi.

"Right," you say loudly, glancing around the loose circle of people standing on the roof. "So three or four a week, let's call it four. And if you're only half filling them, call it, say, triple that."

Chouko nods.

"And it doesn't mean that you can't fill up the Seeds the rest of the way either," you continue, expounding on your idea. "I mean, you still can, in an emergency."

"Miss Minami, are you willing to supply the twelve Seeds for Miss Tsubaki and her group?" you ask, transfering your gaze to the grey haired girl.

Yumi frowns. "We can."

"Will you do it, then?" you ask, folding your arms. "Well actually," you say, holding up a hand and eyeing Yumi, Tamiko, and Sakura. "I should say that this is just a suggestion, if you have any other ways of dealing with this you'd prefer, I'm willing to hear it out."

"A bit fucking late to be saying that, no?" Sakura says sourly, pulling a face. "Yeah, yeah, your solution's fucking great. Can't fucking see much wrong with it."

Tamiko nods slightly. Rin, her arms still crossed, inclines her head in agreement, and out of the corner of your eye, you can see Noa's twintails sway as she turns to give you another considering look. Kirika, standing between you and Noa, turns to the Tokyo girl and... well, you guess she pulled a face, by the way Noa arches an eyebrow and looks away.

"We'll do it," Yumi says, looking from the rest of her group to you, then Chouko.

A smile emerges on Yuko's face, her entire body jerking from its slouched, tired posture, while an identical smile spreads across the Suzuki sister's faces like the break of dawn. Chouko sags in very visible relief, tightly wound tension seeping from her shoulders, but only for a moment, before she visibly forces herself to straighten. She inclines her head, and then dips into a half-bow. "Thank you."

To your surprise, Rin bows back. "I... think we've caused you enough trouble. This is... not anywhere near recompense, not by far."

"You don't know how much of a relief this is," Chouko says quietly. "So thank you, regardless." The bluenette turns, bowing to you - this time, far more deeply, bending nearly ninety degrees at the waist. "Thank you too, Miss Sabrina."

You wave it off. "It's what I came here to do," you say. To fix things, to improve the lives of magical girls. To impose your brand of thinking, your way of doing things on the magical girls here.

What's the difference?

"So, one last thing," you say, hiding your inner turmoil. "There's... well, there's a trick, or a technique, I guess, I've been working on - I can empty a Grief Seed a little more than is usual so that it accepts more Grief before being filled, but I'm... not sure it's completely safe. It's something that..." you waggle your free hand. "It's a project I'm working on, if I get it working, well..." you spread that hand demonstratively.

Chouko nods, brows creased in vague puzzlement. You can practically read her thoughts - I'm not even surprised.

Rin bobs her head. "That would be helpful. More than helpful."

Yumi sighs. "Shall we... go retrieve the Grief Seeds now?" she asks. "And... if you don't mind my asking, what's to be done with Akiko and our... allies from Fukushima?"

[] Write-in

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Whelp.
 
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[]Please do.
[]This way'll be better for everyone in the long run. We promise.
[]Let Sendai go. All of them as a gesture of good faith. Hang onto Akiko for now until we can talk to her. We want to try and find out what's wrong with her, and help her if we can.
[]We're going to wake Fukushima, and talk to them, ask them about how many seeds they have back home.
-[]Did they say anything about that to you? Anything about them you can tell us?
[]Start with the metalbender. Keep her restrained. Ask Sendai and Mami to help keep her calm.
-[]Her friends are okay. We don't want to hurt her.
-[]Ask her what the hell she was thinking with bringing the fight onto a crowded highway.
 
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Hmm, that brings up a very good question. What was the plan for dealing with the Fukushima girls? All I seem to recall is that we decided to let Sendai wake them up and then...something?
 
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