We don't really need it since we have the actual straits to the not!Med.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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I agree with most of the land-based concerns with one caveat: any land that belonged to the Ymaryn at any point in time must be retaken. Maybe not right now, but as soon as the opportunity arises.
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
Why? What is the point? What resources would we acquire that are worth spending that amount of manpower?
- Location
- in the trash
Maybe? Chinese cuisine generally tends to have:
- Rice is generally the defining staple. Some noodles, bread not really.
- Clear soups and broths. Creamy, thickened soups are basically nonexistent. Coloured broths, yes, thickened, no.
- A total lack of dairy products, which also ties in to the above point about soups.
- A lot of stirfry, steaming, and braising as the dominant methods of food preparation. Baking and roasting not so much.
- Very heavy on the salt and oil, at least on the mainland.
Some bits line up, others don't.
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- Hell
Cultural. To be able to say that Ymaryn is whole again. To have everything back.
It is mostly nostalgia really. Wanting things to be back the way they were.
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- United States
At this point, Modern Ymaryn is to Ancient Ymaryn as Modern Egypt is to Ancient Egypt.
A lot of cultural remnants sticking around, but none of the same beliefs or practices.
So, we can try to emulate the Ancient Ymaryn, but we're never going to go back to being them, and I think it's best to just accept that now.
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
Cultural we should look forward to what the bright future has. Not backwards.
I want my engineered wood and tree wooden skyscrappers. Given our large forests, we may want to look into forestry and chemical research.
The problem with Russia is that they have stretches of land where it's very easy for our enemies to invade, although since Russia is very big, it's also quite difficult for enemy logistics.
Once we're in the 20th-21st century, it should be feasible for the Ymaryn to start an environmentalism revival that actually stick this time.
The problem with Russia is that they have stretches of land where it's very easy for our enemies to invade, although since Russia is very big, it's also quite difficult for enemy logistics.
Once we're in the 20th-21st century, it should be feasible for the Ymaryn to start an environmentalism revival that actually stick this time.
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- Hell
*shrug*
It is what it is. Not trying to encourage a push, merely theorycrafting from what I can see from my corner of the thread. There has not really been given any other solid reason for doing so other than nostaglia.
It is what it is. Not trying to encourage a push, merely theorycrafting from what I can see from my corner of the thread. There has not really been given any other solid reason for doing so other than nostaglia.
That is reaching. That has not been Ymaryn territory for centuries. Nobody is going to include a negative as part of their nationalist trait.
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- United States
I mean, we could do that.
We probably have a better than average chance of doing that.
I'm just saying not to expect Sacred Forest 2.0, with everyone working towards forestry with a religious fervor.
That's an Ancient Ymaryn thing that is essentially impossible to replicate, both because we no longer have the traits that gave us our love for the land (Divine Stewards) but we also no longer have the same religion that placed forests as sacred things to respect.
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SoonTM
We all agreed that Ymaryn territory, once claimed, can never be abandoned. This is no time to act rationally.
HanEmpire
Delicious
Maybe, but the players have been driving towards creating "Greater Ymar" and cultural domination of old Ymaryn splinters for the last couple of in-universe centuries. I think it's reasonable that our intellectuals are going to derive a lot of the new national identity based on the biggest, most weighted common denominator they can use to that effect, ie. the old Ymaryn Empire. And if that happens Ymaryn nationalism will probably include a national mission of "reclamation" for all lands that were once Ymaryn.
My thought in Greater Ymaryn is that they are the most likely states vulnerable to diplomatic annexation(especially via nationalism concepts), and are already populated and developed, so it takes less to bring them up to par.
I would oppose military reunification of Greater Ymaryn aince it defeats the point if we need occupation forces just to keep it.
I would oppose military reunification of Greater Ymaryn aince it defeats the point if we need occupation forces just to keep it.
HanEmpire
Delicious
I see we're going to need to beat down Nohon to get proper ocean access to the east.
@Academia Nut:
Why haven't the Styrmyr conquered a southern port?
Who owns Not!Italy and Not!Greece?
Who's that down in Not!Australia?
AN quote from Discord:
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- He/Him
The Balkans are in the way and the Styrmyr decided they would rather not.
Disunified city states in an absolutely psychotic level of violence, with the only thing they can agree on is blowing up outsiders. You have been selling guns and cannons to them for centuries.
Sketch colony.
HanEmpire
Delicious
Black Sheep delenda est.
Let's fuck them over before they develop a national identity.
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- United States
I uh, I'm pretty sure AN meant Siberia.
As in, all of that free empty land.
That the hyper expansionist Nohon will more than gladly move into.
Instead of the land of the people we have been propping up for a few turns.
HanEmpire
Delicious
Ah. Well then, let's do that too.I uh, I'm pretty sure AN meant Siberia.
As in, all of that free empty land.
That the hyper expansionist Nohon will more than gladly move into.
Instead of the land of the people we have been propping up for a few turns.
Horologer
Incertae sedis
- Location
- a risen sea
Y'know, I will laugh and laugh if, after moving from a civ that only collapsed after we fucked it over under a system that assumes regular collapses and refreshes...
To a civ that should only experience revolutions and government refresh rather than collapse...
We promptly overreach and have the civ splinter back into broken nations that we conquered but never assimilated.
It'll be so ironic.
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
Oh wow we a Big Boy now
HanEmpire
Delicious
You say that as if we're TTL!Russia or something.