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Remember folks. The canal company seems to be less about going full bore into making the Suez Canal and more about setting up the infrastructure and local expertise to support the build. Making dams and small canals/irrigation networks to train up the locals and improve the Khemeteri ability and *then* going for the big project.
 
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Wouldn't it help with industrialization?
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Its more about developing complex debt instruments and enabling the much more efficient(if of course, risky) deficit spending.
Early experiments in complex credit was...mixed. There was a lot of efficiency to be gained, but the first movers also had giant, economy destroying pitfalls that couldn't be identified because nobody had done the kind of large scale mathematical modeling needed to figure it out and first principle intuitive assessments worked until the flow suddenly inverted or broke off because of components reacting at different thresholds or panic/rushes happening.

An economy is an ecosystem...say @Academia Nut
I'm wondering how much of the Greater Sacred Forest records were used for intellectual development. Wasn't very sure if it was ever restarted or if the studies made it into broader academic philosophies.
 
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People, remember, we have a shortish-term funding problems. Embarking on a giant infrastructure building project is pretty much the opposite of a solution.
 
aceraptor said:
Remember folks. The canal company seems to be less about going full bore into making the Suez Canal and more about setting up the infrastructure and local expertise to support the build. Making dams and small canals/irrigation networks to train up the locals and improve the Khemeteri ability and *then* going for the big project.
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I'd rather have the central bank improve our financial situation first. Because we are soon going to run into money problems if this is any indication:
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While doable, the People's budget was looking remarkably threadbare as they were stretched out to subsidize so many: anti-Syffrynite groups in the Monsoon Sea, trade and diplomatic envoys to the Black Sheep and Khemetri, educational and administrative assistance to the Gylruv, and now outright subsidy to economically unhealthy segments of the Gylruv. Fundamentally, the People needed an influx of cash to pay for all the things they wanted to do.
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Building up infrastructure in Khem will cost us and won't really bring in any money. And 'training up the locals first' means it's going to be a while before we can finally start the canal, meaning it'll be even longer before we gain any income from it.
 
Random Member said:
I'd rather have the central bank improve our financial situation first. Because we are soon going to run into money problems if this is any indication:

Building up infrastructure in Khem will cost us and won't really bring in any money. And 'training up the locals first' means it's going to be a while before we can finally start the canal, meaning it'll be even longer before we gain any income from it.
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Each lightning round takes centuries.
We are not planning for short term here.
 
aceraptor said:
Remember folks. The canal company seems to be less about going full bore into making the Suez Canal and more about setting up the infrastructure and local expertise to support the build.
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That is not what this suggests:
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The collaboration between the People and the Khemetri also brought up the potential idea of some form of canal system between the Saffron and Monsoon Seas within Khemetri territory that would make both kingdoms fabulously wealthy by cutting down trip lengths immensely, but the surveyors were distinctly uncertain about the possibility. It would be intensely expensive if it could be done, and there were probably better ways to go about facilitating trade anyway. Perhaps lesser canals and dams within the Khemetri to facilitate internal trade and agriculture first to build up local expertise and funds?
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Is the first the Ymaryn-Khemtri Canal Company and the later the Greater Khem Trading Company?
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Both are the former, the latter is just trading with all of Africa.
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agumentic said:
First, last two rounds were less than a century long. Second, with the Canal voting trend the next update may well start with "And then People's budget collapsed because they couldn't make the ends meet", which is not healthy for any term.
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Our budget collapse would sink the three large polity beside us, and that is very good for the Europeans; and China if they ever decided to sail again. :V
 
veekie said:
An economy is an ecosystem...say @Academia Nut
I'm wondering how much of the Greater Sacred Forest records were used for intellectual development. Wasn't very sure if it was ever restarted or if the studies made it into broader academic philosophies.
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There were some revivalist attempts, but the loss of continuity and living experience rather than written records meant that climate shifts made much of the old wisdom inadequate.

The modern Ymaryn "biological sciences" are based on those revivalist attempts though.

Random Member said:
Building up infrastructure in Khem will cost us and won't really bring in any money. And 'training up the locals first' means it's going to be a while before we can finally start the canal, meaning it'll be even longer before we gain any income from it.
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Don't think of it as a company to build the Suez canal, think of it as a railway company to get a better idea about what they would be doing.

HanEmpire said:
Things have been slowing down in the recent updates as we approach the late modern times.
@Academia Nut is this the case?
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The first few took up centuries, but recent ones are 40-50 years and dropping. You are at the equivalent of the late 17th century/early 18th century right now.
 
[X] Ymaryn Crown Bank (1x)
[X] Monsoon Sea Trading Company (1.2x)

Having a central bank on hand is too big to pass up.

Anyone willing to go look into the various OTL versions of these companies and give a general idea of how they did and what issues they faced?
 
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[X] Ymaryn Crown Bank (1x)
I'm not enthused with the idea of building the suez without more modern explosives and while being strapped on cash.
 
Academia Nut said:
There were some revivalist attempts, but the loss of continuity and living experience rather than written records meant that climate shifts made much of the old wisdom inadequate.

The modern Ymaryn "biological sciences" are based on those revivalist attempts though.
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Hmmm
What reforms could we take to jump start the Sacred Forest? Would Religious Reform cause a return to the old values?
 
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