Neat. Does this mean we're actually assigning 5 passives now?
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Excellent! That means we can make Lower Valleyguard a Free City next turn instead of worrying about Block Housing in a Blackmouth Free City.
In that case, are we willing and able to commit the resources to build the infrastructure to end the abuse?
Because the situation had not changed. We do not have enough roads, palaces and temples to solve the problem.
Once we trigger the reform sequence we're FORCED to find a solution to that problem in the next 3 turns.
Which is going to mean letting something else burn for it.
Corvee labor is not free. People are paying labor instead of paying coin, but that means the labor must be at fair market rates, the elite force the market to give a nice rate or we eat unrest.
This is a very good way to have people ask why not slavery.
Its possible to be trapped in a situation where justice can't be achieved!
Eh, they'll forget about it in 3 turns...wait a minute. We don't need to rush the ironworks. Next turn is fine for that.
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Must be nice to strawman like that
Where are getting sudden -1 Stability from this?
...Nope, reread the update we have four.
Kek, with all this arguing about either Diplomacy or Skullduggery, it looks like we are going for both
[X] [Policy] Infrastructure (+1 Free Progress to an infrastructure project (Aqueduct, governor's palace, saltern, etc.)/turn) x2
[X] [Policy] Infrastructure (+1 Free Progress to an infrastructure project (Aqueduct, governor's palace, saltern, etc.)/turn) x3
[X] [Policy] Infrastructure (+1 Free Progress to an infrastructure project (Aqueduct, governor's palace, saltern, etc.)/turn)
[X] [Policy] Skullduggery (+1Intrigue/turn, -2 Diplo)
[X] [Policy] City Support (2 True Cities have their maintenance paid for each turn)
[X][Art] Sanitation is too important not to entrust to experts! (Several actions gain or increase their Tech costs, +1 Urban Poor power, ???)
[X] [HK] Offer to send military aid
-[X] [HK] Mass Levy
[X] [Policy] Infrastructure (+1 Free Progress to an infrastructure project (Aqueduct, governor's palace, saltern, etc.)/turn) x3
[X] [Policy] Infrastructure (+1 Free Progress to an infrastructure project (Aqueduct, governor's palace, saltern, etc.)/turn)
[X] [Policy] Skullduggery (+1Intrigue/turn, -2 Diplo)
[X] [Policy] City Support (2 True Cities have their maintenance paid for each turn)
[X][Art] Sanitation is too important not to entrust to experts! (Several actions gain or increase their Tech costs, +1 Urban Poor power, ???)
[X] [HK] Offer to send military aid
-[X] [HK] Mass Levy
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Yes. Fortunately there won't be an update tomorrow.
Abby Normal
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Ahh, that makes more sense. But we shouldn't have overcentralization yet, though. We're still 1 "step" better off than when you originally put us at overcentralization, so we should be one cent lower than that point, whether that means being red but with no penalty, or yellow with no penalty. I'd originally thought it worked the first way*, but earlier when you were editing things it seemed like the latter**
*That is, assuming a limit of, say, 3, then:
0 - white
1 - yellow
2 - yellow
3 - red
4 - red (Penalty
**That is, assuming a limit of, say, 3, then:
0 - white
1 - white
2 - yellow
3 - yellow
4 - red (Penalty
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A nice rate is achievable. We're not paying money, after all. Even if they only do half the amount of work they'd do on extended projects, that would do a lot insofar as fixing the problem goes without causing unrest.
Shit rolls at poor martial and enemy hero unit.
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BungieONI
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I... have no idea what joke you are trying to makeMust be nice to strawman like that
Where are getting sudden -1 Stability from this?
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I'll just assume its funny.
-12 Wealth. Need to pass an ordering admin roll or we freak the guilds out.
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Because it'll make the guilds panic, we'll bleed stability, and they'll potentially burn their own faction power to make it so we don't run ourselves deep into negative wealth.
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Yes, and you know how you build said reserve? By forests, kilns and forestry policies.
Not by saying that we toooottally can do more Infrastructure every turn if we dedicate out actions to Forests or Kilns and then not voting either.
Also, where do you see strategic reserve?
Where?
We are at 25/28, single iteration of Ironworks+Baths puts us right on the edge - and your own fucking plan has manual Ironworks.
So what reserve you even speak of? Is "we are at 27/28 before passives come into play" your definition of "straegic reserve"?
BungieONI
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
I get everything I wanted!
Thank you kindly AN!
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Limit + 0 is the red point. Your High Centralization is 7, while Neutral is 0. Now that you have experienced them and have proper record keeping I will actually label the high/low stuff.
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Oh shit y'all, better go back and make sure your're voting for FIVE GODDAMN POLICIES
Like. Wat. That's pretty crazy.
...why not Kilns?
...and theres that crisis we overlooked. *Juggles glass balls loaded with mercury*
VoidZero
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Because the predictions are like fortune cookies and difficult to assess if with foresight. Hindsight is like confirmed bias. And setting historical precedence for doing things with astro reason will put huge amount of difficult to dissuade power in hands of priests. Which does have drawbacks.
Sure. If we were trying to build a reserve right now that wouldn't be the way to do it.
Who said we are trying to build a reserve right now?
We are at 25/28, which leaves 3 in reserve. Conveniently, our forestry expenses are likely to be 2 thus turn; 3 worst case if the policies go for Baths instead of the Marketplace mission.
BungieONI
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Well, on the bright side we no longer have to worry about selecting a Main action next turn.
Current proposal:
{S} Found Free City - Valleyguard
{S} Proclaim Glory
{S} Integrate Colony - Gulvalley
{S} Support Faction - Patricians
{G} Ironworks
{G} Gold Mine
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VoidZero
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Back when Urban Poor are in low power they are extremely spiteful and if we suppress noble faction then they will be in the same position, likely with even worst quest penalty. I'm citing precedents and noting possible consequences.
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Soooo.... FIVE passives now?
Sweet Merciful Crow.
First thoughts:
[X] [Policy] City Support (2 True Cities have their maintenance paid for each turn)
[X] [Policy] City Support (2 True Cities have their maintenance paid for each turn)x2
[X] [Policy] Diplomacy (+1 Diplo/turn)
[X] [Policy] Skullduggery (+1 Intrigue/turn, -2 Diplo)
[X] [Policy] Special: Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
City Support x2 should take care of a significant chunk of our expenses, Diplomacy and Skullduggery should help ensure a basic, consistent level of contact with the outside world.
Forestry because we're dancing too close to the edge as it is, and protecting our environmentalist values is VERY important.
Sweet Merciful Crow.
First thoughts:
[X] [Policy] City Support (2 True Cities have their maintenance paid for each turn)
[X] [Policy] City Support (2 True Cities have their maintenance paid for each turn)x2
[X] [Policy] Diplomacy (+1 Diplo/turn)
[X] [Policy] Skullduggery (+1 Intrigue/turn, -2 Diplo)
[X] [Policy] Special: Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
City Support x2 should take care of a significant chunk of our expenses, Diplomacy and Skullduggery should help ensure a basic, consistent level of contact with the outside world.
Forestry because we're dancing too close to the edge as it is, and protecting our environmentalist values is VERY important.