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Paths of Civilization

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[X] Make My Own!
[X] Communal Distribution for Communal Effort
[X] A Council of Chiefs

I dunno man. Somebody convince me.
 
[x] Caretakers of the Land

Stewardship of the environment is underrated.

[x] Communal Distribution for Communal Effort

The tribe stands or falls together. Let that be reflected in their way of life.

[x] A Council of Chiefs

Allows people to have a voice, but it also allows for decisive actions to be made. It's balanced between authoritarianism and direct democracy. It also means that one person doesn't have all the power.
 
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[X] Sacred Hospitality
[X] Communal Distribution for Communal Effort
[X] A Big Man is Needed!

Hospitality to attract madmenwanderers and the options to make our dictator as powerful as can be managed.
 
UbeOne said:
Allows people to have a voice, but it also allows for decisive actions to be made. It's balanced between authoritarianism and direct democracy. It also means that one person doesn't have all the power.
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Not really, it may be balanced but its all the bad effects for little benefit. An Authoritarian leader is best for an early stage, in least we plan to City-State it up like Greece. Otherwise trying to be even remotely democratic is inefficient. Besides your choice and all the other choices besides the Big Leader one is more an oligarchy than a democracy
 
Saddened that Wanderers didn't manage to garner votes

[X] Sacred Hospitality

We must be open to outsiders and their ideas. We have only managed to prosper because we listened to the ways of others and adapted their knowledge for our own. We will be known for our acceptance of strangers and potentially draw in Traders for more ideas we can use to better the people. Knowledge is Power.

[X] Communal Distribution for Communal Effort

However, for those that wish to stay, there will always be plenty of work, but the rewards will be great. We rise and fall as one.

[X] A Big Man is Needed!

Start strong, have a Lady lead the people to her vision of properity. The people need a guiding hand to become greater than before! Lead from the front, not from behind.
 
Hmm. Meritocracy sounds good. Despotism is excellent early on, and we can easily move towards democracy later.

Make My Own? Can't say.
Caretaker is Stewardship and Agriculture, but it is filthy environmentalism. /jk
Sacred Hospitality is the Love Thy Neighbor sort, but it's kinda too peaceful to me.

[X] Caretakers of the Land
[X] Communal Distribution for Communal Effort
[X] A Big Man is Needed!

Excited to go into the more interesting stuff, like religion and naming.
 
[x] Caretakers of the Land
[x] Communal Distribution for Communal Effort
[x] A Council of Chiefs
 
[X] Caretakers of the Land
[X] Communal Distribution for Communal Effort
[X] A Big Man is Needed!
 
Professor Vesca said:
According to Aristotle's dichotomy, there is no such thing as a good or bad form of government. All governments are equal, the only difference is the people who run them.
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Well that's all well and good, but looking at history, the Largest empires always had a Authoritarian rule, Greece the first real good Democracy were small in comparison, The Roman Republic was the only other democratic country I can think of right now, and it fell and became an Empire.
 
[X] Sacred Hospitality
You are welcome in our homes, as long as you respect our ways and our traditions! Disrespect us, and we will gut you and leave your living corpse to the crows.

[X] Pressure for Charity
Respect is also a form of currency! And fairly self-regulating too.

[X] A Council of Chiefs
While authoritarianism can work, it's very dependant on having a highly competent leader at the head of things. Otherwise, the government is basically run by the bureacracy. Mind you, when your talking about major empires like China, Rome, and even the USA, it's mostly run by the bureacracy anyway. Leadership is more about policy setting after a certain point, rather than making individual decisions. Mind, we are a LONG WAY from reaching that point.
 
Ghostdevil said:
Well that's all well and good, but looking at history, the Largest empires always had a Authoritarian rule, Greece the first real good Democracy were small in comparison, The Roman Republic was the only other democratic country I can think of right now, and it fell and became an Empire.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with government and everything to do with Geography. Greece was a collection of small, independent city states because each city was on a fortified hill surrounded by mountainous terrain, making controlling each city very difficult, so most times they didnt try and just settled on soft power. Besides which, greek governments ran from monarchy, to aristocracy, and everything in between. When Athens had its chance at empire, its one charismatic leader died to plague and the demagogues who tried to take control via populism pissed away all of their ships and soldiers on a fools errand 6k miles away, and had nothing left to defend themselves from their enemies.

Where the hell do you think Aristotles dichotomy even came from? He watched all the different greek governments competing with each other, and noticed that there were good monarchies and bad ones, and good democracies and bad ones. A monarchy, democracy, or aristocracy is neither inherently good, or inherently bad at ruling or decision making.

Speak not of things you know nothing about.
 
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Professor Vesca said:
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That has absolutely nothing to do with government and everything to do with Geography. Greece was a collection of small, independent city states because each city was on a fortified hill surrounded by mountainous terrain, making controlling each city very difficult, so most times they didnt try and just settled on soft power. Besides which, greek governments ran from monarchy, to aristocracy, and everything in between. When Athens had its chance at empire, its one charismatic leader died to plague and the demagogues who tried to take control via populism pissed away all of their ships and soldiers on a fools errand 6k miles away, and had nothing left to defend themselves from their enemies.

Speak not of things you know nothing about.
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Well its a variety of factors, it just happens that the democracy occurred in a small Area with this, Geography has as much to do with Government, I never contested that. So getting uppity is very much unneccesary, kinda feels like I accidently shat in your cereal o_O.
 
Ghostdevil said:
Well its a variety of factors, it just happens that the democracy occurred in a small Area with this, Geography has as much to do with Government, I never contested that. So getting uppity is very much unneccesary, kinda feels like I accidently shat in your cereal o_O.
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You didnt shit in my cereal, you spoke of shit out of pure ignorance, shit I happen to know a thing or two about.

No, the small independent city states of Greece are very much a factor of the geography in which that society evolved. Compare this to the hittites who were divided between the northern lords and the southern lords by a mountain ridge, and how their civil wars always fractures along this geographical feature, or the Babylonians and their chaotic society influenced by the irregular and chaotic floods of the tigris and euphrates, or Egypt and their strong national identity influenced by the steady, predictable Nile which united the entire country and facilitated their identity as egyptians, rather than as citizens of their particular city.

Geography is everything when influencing how a society will develop, especially one as simple and primitive as this.
 
Professor Vesca said:
You didnt shit in my cereal, you spoke of shit out of pure ignorance, shit I happen to know a thing or two about.

No, the small independent city states of Greece are very much a factor of the geography in which that society evolved. Compare this to the hittites who were divided between the northern lords and the southern lords by a mountain ridge, and how their civil wars always fractures along this geographical feature, or the Babylonians and their chaotic society influenced by the irregular and chaotic floods of the tigris and euphrates, or Egypt and their strong national identity influenced by the steady, predictable Nile which united the entire country and facilitated their identity as egyptians, rather than as citizens of their particular city.

Geography is everything when influencing how a society will develop, especially one as simple and primitive as this.
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I know that, your getting uppity over nothing. I never said anything against that so how about you screw off with the insults. I said that Democracy... Well kind of a democracy since most of the population couldn't actually vote, but anyways is that Greece and Rome were pretty much the only Democracies and for good reason, Rome couldn't maintain its democracy and Greece eventually lost any influence it once had.
 
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