Remember we see things through the eyes of IC characters not an omniscient narrator. That could have been a rumor that gained traction or self-delusion.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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Remember we see things through the eyes of IC characters not an omniscient narrator. That could have been a rumor that gained traction or self-delusion.
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- United States
We lose prestige so long as the Swamp Folk are losing because they are a part of the games and being attacked by someone who is not a part of the games.
The TH have also been consistently insulting us, and will take a swing at us as soon as we are distracted by something else.
Attacking them now will make the Swamp Folk like us more preemptively kicks the TH in the teeth, and if the HK are stupid enough to attack us again we can just conquer them wholesale.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
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- Ranch
The war is as likely to entice the Highlanders to attack as not; tis a gamble, and the dice favours the bold.
As for land, we need not hold it directly, vassal territory is as good as direct dominion(on the borders at least) .
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If there is insufficient refugees to risk a stab drop, In Service of Order does not trigger. If the risk doesn't come through then it does not trigger. So you can potentially take up to 3 hits without stab loss, assuming you weren't hit by whatever triggered the refugee waves in the first place (in which case you were protected).
wait... @Academia Nut i just realized something...do we not have our defensive passive policy anymore? its not on the policy effects bit...
Ooops. Will fix.
Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
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- United States
I'm not the one who started his argument by spewing nonsense speculation about us not being able to win, before dropping it entirely to claim 'we can totally fight them both at once if it comes down to it.' Pick a stance and keep it, and probably keep away from emphatic 'fuck the Highlanders' declarations that bring me to pointing out your bias makes you a poor choice to listen to for objectively good advice.
Thunder Horse also attacked us before, and they are pretty angry at us right now. Defending the Swamp People means we go to war with them at our terms instead of theirs.
My bet is that some kind of meteorological os astrological event will weaken the Swamp People considerably, and the TH will use that to take them over, using that win to solidify their own country. With that done, they will be a more credible threat to the People, especially if we have to contend with the potentially rebellious former HK province.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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- Present
People, do remember.
This bit is the actual prophecy. All the declaring war stuff is just interpretation by the priests.
An alternative scenario.
1. Make friends with the Khmeri
2. Defend the Toxcla
3. Get our general
4. Send the Dragon Banner East
This bit is the actual prophecy. All the declaring war stuff is just interpretation by the priests.
An alternative scenario.
1. Make friends with the Khmeri
2. Defend the Toxcla
3. Get our general
4. Send the Dragon Banner East
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- United States
It's impossible to consistently predict how people will behave. You can predict weather patterns to some extent, but people are too complicated. Not many people predicted Trump becoming president, for example. Even the best hedge fund managers lose against index funds in the stock market. Even with 2016 technology, drawing conclusions on future behavior based on past behavior is very unreliable.
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- Germany
The only two things we know right now is that the Genius is good at math and that her minder is good at selling her work to others.
Do you guys really want to set foreign policy because somebody ran a good sales pitch? We are being sold snake oil at best and snake venom at worst.
Do you guys really want to set foreign policy because somebody ran a good sales pitch? We are being sold snake oil at best and snake venom at worst.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
You are directly and specifically wrong.
The Ymaryn are now required to go to war to defend outsiders, otherwise we will suffer a constant drain on Prestige, which will eventually drop the Subordinate State limit, thus provoking a loss of land, and causing the whole nation to implode.
AN is going to have the Ymaryn enter a Civil War, Dark Age, or Social Fracture, no matter what we do. That's the point of everything that's being altered lately. The war against the Khemetri was supposed to break the Ymaryn, but didn't, so other mechanisms are being employed.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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- Present
Yup. Heroic Mystic doesn't mean wverything will come out correct. You can do great work comparing star records, but if that comparison is pointless, nothing will work.
As they say : Garbage In, Garbage out.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Since the early beginnings of this quest, I've held the belief that magic is real. Holding on to that axiom, there's really only one thing I can vote.
[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)
Sorry, Yenyna.
[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)
Sorry, Yenyna.
Legion0047
Retired Shadowrunner.
- Location
- Austria
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- God Emperor
Choosing yes is either touching the oven to see if it's hot or 5 turns of golden age goodness.
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- United States
The TH are already winning. As long as their war ends soon we don't have anything to worry about. Further, we can gain prestige in other ways.
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- United States
No, what we know is:
The Genius is good at math and knows quite a bit of history, and is able to predict a geological event occurring soon based on our history.
The priests, who keep up with our history and traditions, agree with her math and her predictions.
Also, she is not a child, and the priest is not a minder. There is no need for you to treat her as such.
Our priests have never done this?
There was one time with the spirit-touched guy where the priests were like "we don't know what to do with this guy, maybe these words mean something?" and we in turn set up heathcare for the injured.
They tried to say "abuse of animals is wrong" but we overruled them anyway, and that wasn't really a bamboozling.
I don't think so. It's definitely getting a lot harder, but we should be able to stick it through. That CB basically forces us to maintain a balance of powers which helps us ensure that no one else gets too strong. This isn't all that bad of a thing in realpolitik terms.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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- Present
Nah, we'll simply loose King of the Hill.
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- Australia
[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)
I think at the end of the day i'm going with this because I don't think we have a good chance of going to war with the Highlanders next turn anyway so might as well get some revenge.
I think at the end of the day i'm going with this because I don't think we have a good chance of going to war with the Highlanders next turn anyway so might as well get some revenge.
I would not call a potential DB touching the oven.
On the one hand, this sounds a lot like most of our other proto-science wrapped up in mystical babble, as usual. There appears to be a system involving historical records at play that dictates these actions. I feel there's a strong chance of this leading to further scientific advancements.
On the other hand, Highlands Delende Est.
Decisions, decisions...
On the other hand, Highlands Delende Est.
Decisions, decisions...
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Most people have expressed some variation of the opinion that this is the best way to test Astrology/Love of Wisdom, rather than because they believe the predictions. Accusing them of buying into superstitions will do nothing to change their vote because that's not what they're doing.
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- Voidbetweenstars
1. we have 2 open slots for subordinates So unless you think that war is going to go on for 20+ turns....
2. We can simply not invite them to the next set of games.
3. Being stupide because the AN wants us to be is moronic
4. This argument means the best thing to do would be to kill the highlanders.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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- Present
You're distorting the truth.
She corellated history with star movements. To insinuate this is a prediction based solely on math and histort is blatantly wrong.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
we have a lot of prestige to go before that happens
sauce as to the clear trend toward a TH victory?