- Location
- Sweden
Why would I give our biggest, and most powerful enemy immunity/resistance to
Pox/sickness?
Also Umi-san voted no before i did.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
Pox/sickness?
Also Umi-san voted no before i did.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
Objection. We took the value of The Greater Good from them, which was a non-specific sacrifice trait. They did practice human sacrifice, but they weren't baby killers then.
Moloch Calls was specifically the baby killing value, and something we never pursued.
- Location
- Australia
They're our friends. Their king is related to every single one of our nobles by marriage, we trade with them, and they play games with us. 'Former enemy' and 'enemy' are two different things.
We cannot pursue Moloch Calls as it is incompatible with our civilization.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
- Location
- Present
Sorry to burst your bubble but I think "maxed development" means development has been maxed out.
Maxed Development just means that if we progress further, it starts to eat mysticism or other stats untill we advance our society to sustain it.
- Location
- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
They already had Moloch Calls back then, though. The point is:
We took a value from a child sacrificing society and it was fine.
We can take a value from a chattel slavery practicing society, and it will probably also be fine.
- Location
- Sweden
Until they forget we're friends in 5-10 turns and attack us again.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
Not merely never pursued. We were told we were explicitly incompatible with it. The same would be true of any slaving-specific trait.
Edit: and the blackbirds are out in force today...
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- Location
- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
Speaking of the Xoh, may I remind you we even send our emissaries wide and far to teach even then the secret of how to defeat that other sickness? We send emissaries to everyone, even our enemies. We don't let people die of diseases just because they are from an enemy civilization.
No they didn't. Moloch Calls evolved out of Greater Good in a Negaverse shitstorm.
Slightly incorrect. It just means that you cannot evolve the trait because it is the most advanced trait you can get as a bronze age/early iron age civilization.
Because we never bother to pursue lasting friendships with any of our neighbors?
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[X] [Pox] Yes (Khemetri gain knowledge of how to do the Sacred Warding, the People gain Predictive Astrology)
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PiA] Highlanders (Probably In Service to Order)
[X] [React] Meet yeoman demands (Sec New Settlement + Sec New Roads, meets Yeoman faction demands)
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PiA] Highlanders (Probably In Service to Order)
[X] [React] Meet yeoman demands (Sec New Settlement + Sec New Roads, meets Yeoman faction demands)
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
There's uh also the point of order that we are giving them the holy shit good magic.
I'm kinda thinking they may remember that. Plus the games seem to be a continuous interaction thing, which is good since it is probably helping with that regular contact thing.
@Academia Nut
Because if they don't, then I'd really really like to share this too.
We did elect to share that knowledge with everybody around us, but the Khemetri are rather far away so who knows if that knowledge spread to them.
Is it possible to also share Sanitation - the effects of clean water, salt, and honey - with them? From that one update way back on page 1101, May 4th, where the People... well... "headbutt one of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse."
Or do the Khemetri already know this?
Because if they don't, then I'd really really like to share this too.
We did elect to share that knowledge with everybody around us, but the Khemetri are rather far away so who knows if that knowledge spread to them.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
- Location
- Ranch
[X] [Pox] Yes (Khemetri gain knowledge of how to do the Sacred Warding, the People gain Predictive Astrology)
Giving it up would greatly strengthen the Khemetri, but not doing so may lead them to aquire it by other more or possibly less direct means, so we may as well get something out of it.
[X] [Iron] Open up the market for the metal
Often time it is far cheaper to buy in bulk than produce your own. It will also give us dominance of new trade good. This will also include selling the finished goods as well, or so I think.
[X] [PiA] Khemetri (Probably Spiritual Value)
Likely to be the most spiritually advanced, so a value from them would be quite powerful. Things like organised priesthood and clerical hierarchies or more complex ritual and ceremony.
[X] [PiA] Thunder Horse (Probably Honour Value)
Likely to be a martial glory or aristocratic fitness value or perhaps honour codes.
[X] [PiA] Trelli (Probably trade related)
Merchant codes of conduct or maybe status in coin values , likely to be powerfully ones.
[X] [PDN] Majorly push forward forests (Main Expand Forests, -2 Centralization)
To make use of the extra innovation roll from the policy, as well as maybe finally switching it out to def or inf.
[X] [PDN] Lots more black soil (Main Black Soil, -2 Centralization)
We're gonna be setting up trade posts and integrating subordinates soon, so it will be useful.
[X] [React] Reorganize army and hunt deserters (Found Mercenary Company + Sailing Mission (anti-pirate))
New merc and pirates dealt with, a very good option.
[X] [React] Pre-emptively meet forest demand (Main Expand Forest)
With the previous forest react, we can definitely switch policies now, we have more than enough forests.
[X] [React] Meet yeoman demands (Sec New Settlement + Sec New Roads, meets Yeoman faction demands)
The yeomanry are content and we get a stability and a new province.
Giving it up would greatly strengthen the Khemetri, but not doing so may lead them to aquire it by other more or possibly less direct means, so we may as well get something out of it.
[X] [Iron] Open up the market for the metal
Often time it is far cheaper to buy in bulk than produce your own. It will also give us dominance of new trade good. This will also include selling the finished goods as well, or so I think.
[X] [PiA] Khemetri (Probably Spiritual Value)
Likely to be the most spiritually advanced, so a value from them would be quite powerful. Things like organised priesthood and clerical hierarchies or more complex ritual and ceremony.
[X] [PiA] Thunder Horse (Probably Honour Value)
Likely to be a martial glory or aristocratic fitness value or perhaps honour codes.
[X] [PiA] Trelli (Probably trade related)
Merchant codes of conduct or maybe status in coin values , likely to be powerfully ones.
[X] [PDN] Majorly push forward forests (Main Expand Forests, -2 Centralization)
To make use of the extra innovation roll from the policy, as well as maybe finally switching it out to def or inf.
[X] [PDN] Lots more black soil (Main Black Soil, -2 Centralization)
We're gonna be setting up trade posts and integrating subordinates soon, so it will be useful.
[X] [React] Reorganize army and hunt deserters (Found Mercenary Company + Sailing Mission (anti-pirate))
New merc and pirates dealt with, a very good option.
[X] [React] Pre-emptively meet forest demand (Main Expand Forest)
With the previous forest react, we can definitely switch policies now, we have more than enough forests.
[X] [React] Meet yeoman demands (Sec New Settlement + Sec New Roads, meets Yeoman faction demands)
The yeomanry are content and we get a stability and a new province.
- Location
- Australia
Hmm...instead of attacking the Storm Wolves after Admin King dies, what if we instead build more trails?
Complex ritual and ceremony is the death of science. Those priests who focus on them rather than science will gain more power and influence, resulting in less doing science and then science being forbidden to prevent a previous ritual or ceremony from being proven useless and thus diminishing those priests' power.
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Why would we attack the Storm Wolves?
- Location
- Australia
They'll likely become a threat.
- Location
- Russia
- Pronouns
- He
Well, lasting friendships with nomads are impossible with all the tribes shuffling around, unless we try and semi-settle them like the HH.
Highlanders and TH have waged war on us and view us as a threat. It will be hard to show them now that we are friends.
Trelli are slavers and we want to cut down on that. Still, for all of this, I think the Ymaryn should strive to be more peaceful and less realpolitik-y, because for a lot of time now, there are always corruption and disharmony growing from being ruthless and self-centered.
And maybe treat other people as family, not forcing them to abandon their society cornerstones but gently showing our way is better and more humane.
- Location
- Australia
Forest innovations is muy bueno. AN also said somewhere that we're going to require a lot more forests to complete some projects which'll soon be unlocked. Also, forests make us harder to attack.
What? Catching our Infrastructure up with our needs? How silly.
Clearly waging totally necessary wars where we dont profit from our defensive boni is far more important than making sure our bronze age kingdom has as many trails as it requires.
Once their hero dies, they are no longer a threat.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
- Location
- Ranch
When is the last time you saw sheep living in a forest? Forests are a necessary evil, and nothing more.
Actually, I wonder if it's possible to also share the Basic Anatomy we got from the Dead Priests the turn after that due to sharing sanitation with everybody, too?
Just, spread as much health and knowledge of health-related stuff as possible.
Just, spread as much health and knowledge of health-related stuff as possible.
Don't.
We have had enough mod-attention already, do not start sniping at people.