Integrate Stallions, The Games, and more TREES! all in one turn!? :O

Guys this is literally a dream come true, I think I'm gonna cry I'm so happy.

Thank you so much to all of you who voted for this <3
Just... don't freak out when our martial hits 20 {25}.

We will be right at the 20 point cap and then WHR will push it over, but we have ways to deal with it, like Mercs.
 
You do realize that the Eastern Roman empire, or the Byzantine Empire as we known them, exists in the East, right? So knowledge wasn't lost. On the contrary, the Roman empire continued along for another thousand years until they were conquered by cannons and the Ottoman Empire.
Which then led to the exodus of many Byzantines to the West, along with their vast stores of roman era texts.

And so started the Renaissance.
 
So I've been thinking about the extreme long term future of our people.
I think our best option would be to become (better) communist Russia, unless we take the Trelli city fairly soon we can't compete with a more expansionist Egypt in the mediterranean so adapting to start taking all the territory in the north(via trading post getting used to the environment) would be a good idea, especially if the Black Sea being further south means the whole of Eurasia is further south.

Also expanding all the way across(if it's even possible) means we get early access to the hypothetical Americas

I'm imagining the looks on the(probably never to exist) British, Portugese, French and Spanish faces as they start exploiting a continent only to realize that there's a huge colony there no one told them about.
 
Just... don't freak out when our martial hits 20 {25}.

We will be right at the 20 point cap and then WHR will push it over, but we have ways to deal with it, like Mercs.

Not a problem, HK asked for it and Nomads are always a kosher target. :p
But another mercenary company sounds good, on bottom of trail, vassal to colony, and more trails.:V
 
Well.

We might get lucky; if the Games finish, they'll probably increase our safe martial cap.
Tbf, between our Heroic Mystic, Genius General, Excellent Martial, and Heroic/Genius Admin, combined with much of our martial coming from veterans, this is probably one of the few times we should be able to keep a bunch of bored warriors under control.

Especially with The Games distracting them.
 
We've seen red martial cause us to attack another nation when we were at -1 stability. We've seen it cause us to raid another nation at 0 stability. Maybe we'll be fine at 1 stability?
 
Tbf, between our Heroic Mystic, Genius General, Excellent Martial, and Heroic/Genius Admin, combined with much of our martial coming from veterans, this is probably one of the few times we should be able to keep a bunch of bored warriors under control.

Especially with The Games distracting them.

We have the HK, they won't be bored for long.
 
So I've been thinking about the extreme long term future of our people.
I think our best option would be to become (better) communist Russia, unless we take the Trelli city fairly soon we can't compete with a more expansionist Egypt in the mediterranean so adapting to start taking all the territory in the north(via trading post getting used to the environment) would be a good idea, especially if the Black Sea being further south means the whole of Eurasia is further south.

Also expanding all the way across(if it's even possible) means we get early access to the hypothetical Americas

I'm imagining the looks on the(probably never to exist) British, Portugese, French and Spanish faces as they start exploiting a continent only to realize that there's a huge colony there no one told them about.

Hello!

Might you be interested in joining the Ymaryn Democratic Socialist Party!

The Ymaryn Democratic Socialists Party, the party of progress and community health.

Economy: The party believes in the heavy control of Capitalistic ventures through the use of extensive government regulation and taxation of private industries. The government would enforce strict standards of health and safety, environmental protection, and workers benefits. We would also introduce a scaling system of Universal Basic Income in which the poorest population percentile would the receive the greatest amount in financial assistance. This assistance would level off to a constant minimum sum as recipients enter higher tax brackets. This would synergize well with existing capitalist ventures as people would always have disposable income on hand for basic amenities.

Education: The party believes in a free and fair education for all. Education in Ymaryn would be paid for by the state at all levels. Likewise there would be an aggressive policy of social integration such that every school has a healthy mixture of high and low income families.

Health and Social Care: The party believes in free and fair healthcare for all. Healthcare in Ymaryn would be paid for by the state. The combination of free healthcare and strict regulation of worker health would help us to maintain a healthy and happy society.

Government: We believe that while there are many merits to capitalist economic aspects, the state should maintain responsibility for the health, education, and overall quality of life of its people. In order to encourage the continued quality of government provided services we propose a strong tradition of proportionally elected representative government at all levels. We would also impose highly inclusive laws as to who could vote and provide economic incentives for people to do so. Likewise there would also be strict oversight as to how the electoral system functions to prevent gerrymandering and over complicated candidate selection. And finally by officially tying political power to nation-wide approval ratings we can prevent corruption and ensure a smooth and prosperous government.

Foreign Affairs and Defense: We believe in a mostly pacifistic policy in regards to our neighbors. When possible we would prefer to have trade and diplomatic relations with foreign powers rather than launching wars of conquest. However we also believe in defending ourselves if attacked or provoked. We believe that the best military is a well-equipped one, the cornerstone of our defense policy is to always be one step ahead of our enemies technologically through continuous innovation in strategy, tactics, and material arms.
 
Last time I did this
That was a sort of special case, as I was doing it from a different perspective than usual. I actually spend time assigning numbers to various parts of those, and then balancing them out, giving different parts different values. In this case I was first assigning the different parts of society that we could effect actions that would most clearly take care of their concerns of various departments, and just how important it was we get around to them at the time, based on the department's desires. Since I limited my scope to what seemed to be the more important actions, they didn't differ too much in actual degrees, but there were many things I simply did not put in.

Out of 25 actions, the replies I got back were "I think this is good, except for one to three actions I would change by one degree." If we take that as a measure of being off by 1 point for two options on a scale of 1-7 out of 25 options, well, my lazy math puts that at well bellow 5% error. And I am realizing I said 5% accuracy as opposed to 5% error...

To top it off, most of the complaints were different, while others thought that other people's complaints were not good enough. Granted, it was a very small sample size, but I definitely did not have everyone claiming this was highly inaccurate in a similar manner, or just outright wrong.

No, it is not what pblur is trying to do, not even close, which is why I'm not saying to just do that.

Let me make sure I'm remembering right then, first...

*Doo dee doo*

Hmm... Well, first I think my bigger problem might be your formatting, I'm not sure how to fix that off hand. Right, let me actually answer your question then. This might be a question of your formatting eternally confusing me and constantly making me think your chart says things it doesn't.


Okay, I've typed up several things, I think I finally see what bothers me about this... nope.

I'm sorry, I don't think I'm able to articulte what it is about your stat efficiency sheet that bothers me. Whenever I look at it, it looks off at first, but then I think it through and say 'oh, that makes sense and sounds like what it should do,' then I try to apply it to any given situation, such as reducing centralization and it blows up in my face because that number isn't accurate.

I'm not sure exactly what is happening, but every time I try to use your stat sheet for anything that I couldn't figure out by just looking at our list of actions, it blows up in my face when I cross check it, and I can't articulate as to why it's doing that.

I really am sorry, I don't seem to be able to give you good feed back to help here. :confused: My best guess is formatting, but even that doesn't seem right... Sigh, I really am sorry about this. I hate not giving good feedback.
You wrote up an analysis that most people agreed with. That is not the same as writing up an analysis that was 95% correct according to consensus.

For example. I was one of the people who liked that post. That doesn't mean I thought all of what you said was correct; merely that not of it was pointing in the right direction. Certainly, my like was not meant to be taken as "I think you're past was correct within a 5% margin of error."

For that matter, if I agreed nearly that strongly, I would have rated your past insightful, which I notice only one person did...
 
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Well.

We might get lucky; if the Games finish, they'll probably increase our safe martial cap.
*helpless shrug*

Even if they don't I don't think it's going to be anything more than a very annoying issue, because we will still have positive stability.

Best case is that WHR upgrades in such a way to help us out and that the Games are done and give us Martial cap.

There will be problems, but I think we can handle them.


Not a problem, HK asked for it and Nomads are always a kosher target. :p
But another mercenary company sounds good, on bottom of trail, vassal to colony, and more trails.:V
What I'm thinking pretty much.

I don't think we can do anything with the Txolla right now, we need to send Influences their way and connect them better.
Integrate Vassal - Now in contact with the core territories, the lowlanders can be brought more fully into the traditions of the People
*S: -4 Diplomacy, transitions vassal to March or Colony
*M: -8 Diplomacy, transitions portion of vassal to full province, converts rest to March or Colony
From Epic Age III.
 
Just... don't freak out when our martial hits 20 {25}.

We will be right at the 20 point cap and then WHR will push it over, but we have ways to deal with it, like Mercs.
Thank you for your concern, and I promise not to freak out if that does happen. But I think all of you are worrying too much about that, in my opinion. Red martial narratively translates to too many warriors and not enough for them to do, right? Look at the text on The Games again.

The Games - Physical competition and prowess are becoming a popular pass time and way for warriors and militia to train. Could a special festival be founded to celebrate this? (2-3? action commitment, -2 Mysticism and Culture per action, 2 Econ total commitment) [Elites]
Bolded bit is the most important. Games are a way to pass the time. And by dedicating a large event to the celebration of these games, our warriors will spend more time training for that and improving themselves for the event instead of going out and causing trouble. Because of this, I believe that The Games will either raise our martial cap or give us some other way to negate the effects of our red martial.

I have no idea what exactly The Games will do. But since this mega-project is bound to revolutionize and improve our military's quality and tradition, believe we have nothing to fear.

If I'm completely wrong and the Games does nothing to help us, we'll be in a great spot pop a revenge boner on the HK. Or if we're close to negative stability we can just take this beautiful little action right here.
Retraining - When there are more warriors than the People know what to do with, it may be a good idea to find them something else to do
*S: -3 Martial, -1 Econ Expansion, +1 Econ, Culture, and Tech
*M: -5 Martial, -2 Econ Expansion, +2 Econ, Culture, and Tech
 
In the future stories the Ymaryn tell of the recent Epic Age what role does Desdydyn play in this? Will he be immortalized as a spiritual King who obtained Crow's favor? Or will the stories paint him as a King forgotten by history?
 
In the future stories the Ymaryn tell of the recent Epic Age what role does Desdydyn play in this? Will he be immortalized as a spiritual King who obtained Crow's favor? Or will the stories paint him as a King forgotten by history?
He's known as Desdydyn the Wise, and since his rule brought about the use of case hardening (and thus made the whole story even more epic by making Ymaryn armies equipped with black and silver weapons and armor, while the Khemetri armies were fighting with the gold bronze, which fits the whole Crow vs Sun thing really well), and considering he managed to get the core territories prepared to aid the colonies, he's likely going to be seen as a wise and just king, favored by the gods.
 
Watch it give us a Martial drip...
I've suggested before that it might add +martial to Festival.

But I'd expect it to raise our safe martial cap too, and with even one turn we can mercenary company or retraining or something.

Given the specific description when we started it, and our Heroic Mystic king, I wouldn't be surprised if it gave us a dedicated military doctrine innovation roll, though. And that would be real nice.
 
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Thank you for your concern, and I promise not to freak out if that does happen. But I think all of you are worrying too much about that, in my opinion. Red martial narratively translates to too many warriors and not enough for them to do, right? Look at the text on The Games again.


Bolded bit is the most important. Games are a way to pass the time. And by dedicating a large event to the celebration of these games, our warriors will spend more time training for that and improving themselves for the event instead of going out and causing trouble. Because of this, I believe that The Games will either raise our martial cap or give us some other way to negate the effects of our red martial.

I have no idea what exactly The Games will do. But since this mega-project is bound to revolutionize and improve our military's quality and tradition, believe we have nothing to fear.

If I'm completely wrong and the Games does nothing to help us, we'll be in a great spot pop a revenge boner on the HK. Or if we're close to negative stability we can just take this beautiful little action right here.
This is my hope too. The only hole in this is that the Games may take 3 actions and right now we are only doing 2. If it is incomplete next turn I think we can only hope it provides a narrative benefit while being built and can partially offset the problem.
 
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