I don't want to use RO if there is nothing narratively justifying the use of RO, even if we have to slowboat our way to 3 stability.
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I don't want to use RO if there is nothing narratively justifying the use of RO, even if we have to slowboat our way to 3 stability.
We controlled only the known river mouths of the black Sea, as far as we know.
@Academia Nut Are there rivers that Greenmouth found during their sailing?
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Good points all around, and we do have the support subordinate action to dump the troublesome stats(Martial and Econ being troublesome in the sense of Martial malus and The Village Stupidity). And Greenshore does need semi-frequent support due to distance in my mind.
True but flexibility to deal with other shit/appease various factions/yadda yadda etc. A secondary can help with that.Err, i meant just do Main RoO and Main PS, not Sec RO + Main PS. Like...just use the extra secondary, its not like most secondaries are very good by themselves anyway
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He doesn't know, its pretty complex either way. A smaller "local" trial probably can't go as wrong, but maybe the smaller scale could have issues or trick the administrators into thinking the problems on a larger scale will be easier to manage if it gets rolled out everywhere. *shrugs*
They probably don't grow in your climate.
More dudes.
1.) Mix of cavalry and infantry
2.) More infantry
3.) More cavalry
2.) More infantry
Traders are allowed in, but generally they're expected to actually trade with most of the settlements they come across. The Highlanders and Xoh will trade with you, and sometimes do it with a nod and a wink to the trader that they want something that their enemy is known to provide, but they don't generally interact directly.
It's seen as disharmonious and cruel to just scare the crap out of a horse with no greater purpose than to show off. Now, when setting a horse up to pull something they can definitely have issues, especially when first training, and force may be required to teach them, but mistreating a horse can lead to a serious ass beating. The People depend on those horses for a lot of things, and hurting them can be a major blow to whatever you were trying to do, plus a lot of the People live and work closely with their work animals, so they empathize with them and don't like to see them hurt, especially not needlessly.
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
"King's organizing groups to ritualistically torture horses. It's gonna be one of those decades, innit."
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@Academia Nut What did we spend a diplo point on this turn? We had 9 at the last Civ Sheet, and then had our normal 4 per-turn income, but we only have 12 diplo, not 13? ...Assuming this isn't another really obvious thing i'm missing like how i forgot about the econ gain from teh settlement *facepalm*
Also, do we know IC if the expansion slot increase was (almost) all the new settlement, or if the black soil increase helped a lot on that too?
Also, do we know IC if the expansion slot increase was (almost) all the new settlement, or if the black soil increase helped a lot on that too?
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What's the first thing mentioned in the update?
Oh. Hey. Look. It's almost like demanding trade inside your area isn't particularly obstructionist or assholish, eh @McLuvin
And look, they don't trade with each other either, so no caravans coming through our territories in a time of war! @McLuvin It's almost like your argument is nothing more than a thinly veiled land-grab!
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...and i think i even commented on the bad weather not affecting econ at some point *facepalm*
...you know, i wonder if the loss in religious authority comes less from people doing something considered spiritually wrong and more from the fact that "The king had a dream about this spiritually corrupt practice actually being good" is being established as a legitimate means of changing spiritual norms... @Academia Nut ?
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Can we not get into this again, please.
Temples eat up 2 Econ + 2 Art per {S} action, so that is 16 a turn. Libraries take 2 Econ + 2 Mysticism, though I think 1 of the mysticism is currently refunded. Still, until we build two more Libraries and increase that refund, it will be taking 12 resources a turn. So I think we can definitely find something to do with our resources for at least a handful of generations, and odds are some crisis will start eating our resources by then anyways.
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Its obvious that he wants to force poor Magnus through 30 pages of discussions over Trade! Evil Pure Evil
Was looking at the update again, looking for Econ loss.
Crow bless the libraries!
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And black soil.
Against someone that cheerfully ignores all evidence thrown his way? Heck no. I have to show him very specifically how he's wrong to get it to stick at all, and I'm still expecting this to pop up again another few turns from now.
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You know, it wasn't long ago that our martial-not-admin king was perturbed about how his predecessor spent all that time and effort on the library when they had crises to deal with...
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Maybe next turn we should put a library in valleyhome to help our admin if we don't plan on doing the palace anytime soon? I mean it will only take one main action so it is rather easy.
Actually, I think we would have lost Stability from people losing confidence in their admittedly less than competent king if he hadn't been able to point to the ancient records and say "AS IT IS WRITTEN, SO SHALL IT BE!" With our Law and Justice traits, we're actually fairly stable now. Well, until something goes wrong in a whole new way.
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there's other hathatyn rivers and probably coastal settlements west of west wall
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Expected not forced.
Big difference mate. But maybe you can't see it over your hateboner and copious amounts of salt you're rubbing into your skin like suncream
As multiple people have mentioned you are acting like a massive douche
So calm your tits now
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Trade with the Trill is going to be my main vote next turn, assuming that we aren't at war.
So, probably a couple of turns after that unless the volcano decides to blow again.
@Academia Nut Why weren't the other civs affected by the famine?
There is seemingly no mechanical benefit for a 2nd library aside from letting us get a 3rd. Thus we could grab a 2nd temple first and then get 2 libraries shortly afterwards. Definitely going to do that in ~2 turns if we stay on Balanced and don't get our Stability up.