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@notgreat I'm leaning toward changing to your vote. On the other hand, it a) ties us into a 4-7 turn megaproject and only completes 3 of those turns and b) doesn't provide as much Econ as the Balanced turn or a goal-less megaproject turn might, though it's admittedly safer r.e. econ expansion slots.

DakkaMania said:
That also means it's extremely fertile and we have a reason to shield it with yet another March. It's also closer for trade purposes.
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It's in the driest part of the lowlands. There aren't any rivers near it and it's still in Redhills, which is notably arid. At least blackriver is by a river.
 
DakkaMania said:
That also means it's extremely fertile and we have a reason to shield it with yet another March. It's also closer for trade purposes.

It has its risks, but also benefits. And I think the benefits outweigh the risks.

Nevermind that the HK is still holding on while the Xoh had to deal with the Nomads on their side, I think. Strategically, it also gives us a better position to absorb parts of the HK if they collapse.



[X] [Value] Do not spread
[X] [Main] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - South-Eastern Redhills
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Considering we have a king who's below average in admin, there's a real chance of having [Main] PG happen before RO does...which would waste the legitimacy of PG.
 
[X] [Value] Do not spread
[X] [Main] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - South-Eastern Redhills
 
Trade mission to the Highlanders specifying weapons might make a major difference right now. Mass iron weapons could stalemate the whole Lowlands without giving up our monopoly.

@Academia Nut : is that an option?
 
hylas240 said:
Considering we have a king who's below average in admin, there's a real chance of having [Main] PG happen before RO does...which would waste the legitimacy of PG.
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IIRC AN makes a point of not being so douchey except on a crit fail.

In which case we still get a +1 stability.
 
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[X] [Value] Do not spread
Actually clearing my vote since I feel none of the current plans are alright and will vote gain in the morning so good night Y'all.
 
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] Black Soil
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy: Expansion

Okay, Black Soil may well give us Econ slots, so why not?
And policy Expansion is good because we currently have a breather and need slots.

DakkaMania said:
[X] [Value] Do not spread
[X] [Main] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - South-Eastern Redhills
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Secondary RO is 0-2 Stability. With Main PG, it is...huh, 1/3 of +1, 1/3 of +2, 1/3 of +3 with average admin king.

Main RO has 1/9 chance of 0 stability, 4/9 of +1, 4/9 of +2 with average king.

First option is surprisingly viable unless I messed up math.
 
hylas240 said:
Just perused AN's posts and haven't seen anything saying that.
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It was r.e. restoration of order a long time ago. If you remind me tomorrow (going to sleep now) I'll try to find it. Or we can just ask him:
@Academia Nut How would the rolls for a Main PG + Secondary RO work?

Kiba said:
No. Is there something wrong?
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It wastes the legitimacy gain of PG. RO will, average-ishly, give a result of 1 stability gain, so honestly it might be better to do it instead of EJ, just in case we get a 2. Though a PG + EJ combo gives a guaranteed +2 stability, so it's really up to you.
 
ctulhuslp said:
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] Black Soil
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy: Expansion

Okay, Black Soil may well give us Econ slots, so why not?
And policy Expansion is good because we currently have a breather and need slots.



Secondary RO is 0-2 Stability. With Main PG, it is...huh, 1/3 of +1, 1/3 of +2, 1/3 of +3 with average admin king.

Main RO has 1/9 chance of 0 stability, 4/9 of +1, 4/9 of +2 with average king.

First option is surprisingly viable unless I messed up math.
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You're including proclaim glory with the first one.
 
Umi-san said:
It was r.e. restoration of order a long time ago. If you remind me tomorrow (going to sleep now) I'll try to find it. Or we can just ask him:
@Academia Nut How would the rolls for a Main PG + Secondary RO work?


It wastes the legitimacy gain of PG. RO will, average-ishly, give a result of 1 stability gain, so honestly it might be better to do it instead of EJ, just in case we get a 2. Though a PG + EJ combo gives a guaranteed +2 stability, so it's really up to you.
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I honestly don't care about that. If we get 3 stability, we have full health for whatever the dice gives us.
 
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] The Census
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - south-eastern Redhills
 
Umi-san said:
Though a PG + EJ combo gives a guaranteed +2 stability, so it's really up to you.
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Then might as well do Festival instead of PG for Art instead of wasting legitimacy.

pblur said:
You're including proclaim glory with the first one.
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Yes, it's written there. Secondary PG is included in second one.

However, I think I have a better option - main festival, secondary EJ for *guaranteed* 2 stability, +3 art...
Oh, wait, Festivals are -2 Econ. Nevermind.
 
[X] [Value] Do not spread
[X] [Main] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
 
The 4 econ expansions would make the overcrowding worse, i'd wager. I wouldn't be surprised if the plague breaks out again.
 
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